A.Q. & Tory Hug-A-Terrorist Away Days!

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PATHETIC RESPONSE FROM FORMER INTELLIGENCE CHIEF

Dealing with Terrorism and the Causes of Terrorism

16th January, 2008

[I'll remove this post if it all turns out to be just propaganda or a hoax.]

AL QAEDA SETTING UP IN BRITAIN?

As my father used to say, “she’s away with the fairies.”

I was stunned into staying up hours later than I had intended to, after hearing this on Newsnight from Dame Pauline Neville-Jones, former Chairman of the British Joint Intelligence Committee, and someone we might have expected to be able to see the whole picture.

Asked by Jeremy Paxman on European terrorism, “How is that to be contained?”, she said:

“Ah, well now you go of course to the core of things because I think we are very fixated by terrorism and we are right to do so, and we cannot take our eye off that ball, but obviously underlying that is the reasons and the motivation that propel people into taking up either arms or following separate ideologies. This is what I think we need to pay a great deal more attention to, as a society, and as government for that matter - is how we combat and how we tempt people away from that kind of extremism. And that means the foreign policy that we pursue and the kind of domestic policies that we pursue in this country.”

UNBELIEVABLE!

HAS SHE TAKEN LEAVE OF HER SENSES?

As some of my American friends would say - “WRONG ANSWER!”

Forget about making political points about this government’s foreign policy. The Conservatives too would have been in Iraq and Afghanistan, and YOU know it Ms Neville-Jones.

We are ‘way past working out what’s upsetting the poor souls. The liberal lefties have seen to that with their continuing state of denial and hounding of the previous Prime Minister over Iraq. We took our eyes off the ball, aided and abetted by much abuse of the Human Rights Act and by the civil libertarians’ rantings.

But in our fight against Terror & The Causes of Terror, I suppose the answer is to hold a few Saturday morning sessions and hug a JIHADIST for the day until they get better, eh?

Volunteers?

Let’s “volunteer” The Baroness and Mr Cameron. Yes, indeedy, why not?

You two do the first one - the rest of us will pick up after you.

Back to the story:

Newsnight reported that the security services are investigating claims that Al Qaeda is setting up a cell in Britain. The claim was made through this password controlled website

Apart from the BBC midnight news on Radio 4, I have seen no further reports on this in other media. Since there are many jihadist and terrorists sites online, many more aspirational than realistic in nature, this could well fall into the propaganda category.

Go here to watch the Newsnight programme broadcast on Tuesday evening on BBC2.

Wednesday night’s programme will cover the story of the son of a diplomat - self-proclaimed as “terrorist 007″ - now serving a 16 year sentence in London - for internet incitement to violence. See more on this below.

Thank goodness for Newsnight.

And this article in Scotland on Sunday says that Al-Qaeda is recruiting a 1500 strong British ‘white army of terror’ .

Excerpt:

As many as 1,500 white Britons are believed to have converted to Islam for the purpose of funding, planning and carrying out surprise terror attacks inside the UK, according to one MI5 source.

Lord Carlile, the Government’s independent reviewer of anti-terrorism legislation, said many of the converts had been targeted by radical Muslims while serving prison terms.

Security experts say the growing secret army of white terrorists poses a particularly serious threat as they are far less likely to be detected than members of the Asian community.

Since the 7/7 and 21/7 London bombings, police and intelligence services have had considerable success in identifying, disrupting and stopping extremist plots. As a result, groups such as al-Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Taiba and Harkat-ul-Mujahideen have been forced to change tack. Converting white non-Muslims has been one response.

The trend is well established in the United States. American-born Adam Gadahn is one of the FBI’s top 10 most-wanted terrorists after converting to Islam and rising through al-Qaeda’s ranks to become a prominent spokesman.


AL QAEDA ISSUES A CALL TO ARMS INSIDE BRITAIN

“Is it a Serious threat?”, asked Jeremy Paxton on Newsnight.

This is The Declaration as posted on a site called ‘Al Ekhlaas’.

Declaration of the Creation of al Qaeda Organization in Britain.

In the name of Allah, the Most Compassionate the Most Merciful We bring to the nation the good news of the creation of al-Qaeda organization in Britain, under the leadership of brother Muahid Sheikh omar Rabis al-Khalaila.

Our goals are:

1. Launch major attacks against Crusaders’ centers and interests.

2. Eliminate members of the political class, and on top of them Brown and Blair, in accordance with the Quran verse, “fight ye the chiefs of Unfaith”.

3. Our goals are to Eliminate all those who stand in the face of the truthful Mujahideen and eliminate all those who aid the Crusaders against Muslims, as per the teachings of the Sheikh of Islam, Mouhammed Ben Abdel Wahab in his book, “The Ten Nullifiers of One’s Islam”.


So that’s us told, eh?

The report and experts in this kind of “aspirational/inspirational” grouping said that they see any individual who does not subscribe to their extremist views, including Muslims, as legitimate targets.

The DECLARATIONS make clear that the aim, (assuming this is worth considering as a genuine call to arms), is to do away with the rest of us because we are “unfaithful” to their beliefs.

On the website which was set up on 2nd January and has received 17 million hits, a call is made for all Muslims in Britain to join them.

Dame Neville-Jones said that it may only be propaganda, perhaps only aspirational, but “even if this is not something that you would connect directly with terrorism [HER words, not mine] it’s an important part of the of the push that proponents of this ideology want.”

America Believes “Europe Becoming A Platform For Terror”


Co-incidentally the US Homeland Security Secretary, Michael Chertoff spoke yesterday about a growing threat of terrorism originating in Europe.

Baroness Pauline Neville-Jones agreed that there is more terror activity in Europe than in continental USA.

But her common sense seems to have flown out of the window. Or perhaps been clouded by the weak leftie liberal naivety that insists that we have brought this upon ourselves by our involvement in two wars in the Middle East. Tell that to the thousands around the world, mainly Muslim, with no national Iraq involvement, who have lost loved ones to islamist terrorism over decades, not just since 2003.

Baroness Neville Jones, now a Conservative Security spokesperson, said on the programme that we need to look at the reasons for this extremism and work out how we lead people away! Does she or her party really expect to lead people anywhere by this sort of nonsense?

Shameful.

NOTE: As someone who has NOT yet decided which party to vote for next time round, I have no political axe to grind. But perhaps we now know on which side our security bread is buttered.

And if the security services consider this no more than background noise, they have probably worked out that the “declaration” is likely to be the work of the ertswhile Adam, he of the destroyed passport and the American who put together the recent AQ video. After all, why would it be spelt with the American spelling of “centers” unless it was by an American English speaker?

Is this publicity man running Bin Laden’s operation these day.

Western home grown terrorists are a BIG problem and we should NOT ignore them.

VIVA LAS VEGAS!

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And, wait for it, Adam … Aymman al-Zawahiri … was one of the stars in Las Vegas last week.

Report excerpt:

The Consumer Electronics Show, which has been introducing latest technology trends since 1967, has in past years included the camcorder, CD player, Microsoft Corp’s Xbox video-game system and Internet TV among others.

This year they were left behind in the technological dust by the terrorist group Al Qaeda.

Al Qaeda video messages of Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri can now be downloaded to cell phones, the terror network announced two days ahead of the Las Vegas Tech Show as part of its ongoing attempts to extend its influences.

The announcement was posted by al Qaeda’s media wing, al-Sahab, on websites commonly used by Islamic militants. By the following day, eight previously recorded videos were made available, including a recent tribute to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the former al Qaeda leader in Iraq killed by U.S. forces in Iraq in June 2006.

In a written message introducing the cell phone videos, al-Zawahiri, al Quaeda’s No. 2 figure, asked followers to spread the terror group’s messages.

“I asked God for the men of jihadi media to spread the message of Islam and monotheism to the world and spread real awareness to the people of the nations,” al-Zawahiri said.

“The terror network has been growing more sophisticated in targeting international audiences. Videos are always subtitled in English, and messages this year from bin Laden and al-Zawahiri focusing on Pakistan and Afghanistan have been dubbed in the local languages, Urdu and Pashtu.” (Fox News, Jan. 8, 2008). “In December, al Qaeda invited journalists to send questions to al-Zawahiri. The invitation was the first time the media-savvy al-Qaeda offered outsiders to “interview” one of its leaders since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.”


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Daily Mail

Licensed To Kill

A computer nerd from Shepherd’s Bush, West London, became al Qaeda’s top internet agent, it can be revealed today. Younes Tsouli, 23, an IT student at a London college, used his top-floor flat in W12 to help Islamist extremists wage a propaganda war against the West.

Videos he posted included messages from Osama bin Laden and images of the kidnapping and murder of hostages in Iraq such as American Nick Berg.

His capture led to the arrest of several Islamic terrorists around the world, including 17 men in Canada and two in the US.

Associates linked to Tsouli in the UK have also now been detained. His 10-year jail sentence was increased to 16 years last month.

At first intelligence operatives who came across his activities dismissed him as a joke. It was only when anti-terrorist detectives began trawling through files on his computer after his arrest that they realised his true significance.

When he was seized, forensic science officers found that Tsouli had been creating a website called YOUBOMBIT.

At his trial at Woolwich crown court a jury heard how the Met trawled through a “hugely gigantic” amount of material — computers, CDs and memory sticks — to bring Tsouli and two other men to justice.

Detectives found literature urging Muslims to take up the fight against other religions. It was the first time anyone in Britain had been prosecuted for inciting terrorist murder purely based on the internet, the court heard.

Tsouli, who set up and ran several sites over the summer of 2005, was described as the most prominent of the three on trial. The other two were also jailed. One intelligence source said: “In a network structure, if you get the right guy the whole thing goes down.”

Assistant Commissioner Peter Clarke, the head of the Met’s counterterrorism operations, said: “It was the first virtual conspiracy to murder that we have seen.”

Tsouli arrived in London in 2001 with his father, a Moroccan diplomat. He studied IT at a college in central London and was quickly radicalised by images of the war in Iraq posted on the internet.

By 2003 he had already begun posting his own material including a manual on computer hacking and a year later had moved on to publishing extremist images and al Qaeda propaganda on the web.

It is claimed al Qaeda leaders in Iraq spotted Tsouli’s work and took the decision to recruit him, using his expertise to post their own extremist videos to a wider audience.

In 2005, Tsouli became administrator for the web forum al-Ansat, used by 4,500 extremists to communicate with each other, sharing such practical information as how to make explosives and how to get to Iraq to become a suicide bomber.

But the enterprise had become so huge, it began to attract the attention of cyber-trackers who monitor the internet for extremists, leading to Tsouli’s arrest.

Under the name Irhabi 007 — combining the James Bond reference with the Arabic for terrorist — he worked with al Qaeda leaders in Iraq and came up with a way to convert often gruesome videos into a form that could be put onto the Web.


HISTORY BETWEEN NEVILLE-JONES & BLAIR

It’s worth remembering that there is some (personal) history between these two.In July 2004 Pauline Neville-Jones had some pretty harsh judgements to make on Tony Blair’s decision to take the country into Iraq. She reckoned the Butler Report was going to be tough.Tim Sebastian’s HardTalk interview with Pauline Neville-Jones.Excerpt:

TS: Would you judge him (Blair) incompetent?

PNJ: “I think there has been a systemic failure”

TS: But him personally, the buck stops there doesn’t it?

PNJ: “The buck does stop there and I don’t think that the political layer in any country can escape the consequences of a systemic failure.”

TS: Do you trust the government after this?

PNJ: “I think there is a trust issue now and I think we already see this the trust issue. That’s one of the reasons why it’s important, first of all, the Prime Minister does acknowledge he actually got it wrong. Secondly that confidence is restored in the intelligence services.”


And … the Sacking of the BBC’s Greg Dyke over Gilligan

‘It’s clear that the governors reached their decision in extreme haste - and directed by the acting chairman, Richard Ryder, and the former diplomat, Dame Pauline Neville-Jones. It shows how weak some of the governors clearly were, panicked by the pressure and not knowing how to react. There was something of a Benny Hill-style farce as Dame Pauline and Lord Ryder shuttled between the governors’ meeting room and a room - presumably down the corridor - where Dyke was fuming, refusing to resign. “You go and tell him,” you can imagine one of them saying. “No, you do it,” comes the reply. “No, no, don’t let him back in,” barks another.’


More here on this, following the Hutton Report into the death of Dr David Kelly.

As the Butler Report was being concluded in July 2004, many were calling for Blair’s head.

“Getting through” Butler will depend on what the report said Dame Pauline Neville-Jones, a former head of the Joint Intelligence Committee, says the buck must stop with Mr. Blair himself, and implies that the author of the WMD dossier and former head of the JIC, John Scarlett, appointed head of MI6 by the Prime Minister, might have to stand down if that is what is needed to “restore confidence” in the intelligence services.

In the end The Butler report concluded with:… a very British conclusion - yes, there were failures but no, no individual can be blamed. Mr Blair was NOT held responsible, nor was John Scarlett.Indeed, the report says that John Scarlett, the head of the Joint Intelligence Committee which drew up the government’s September 2002 dossier, should not resign from his promotion as head of the Secret Intelligence Service(SIS).’This, Scarlett recommendation, is at odds with Ms Pauline Neville-Jones’s call.


In January 2006, she led a policy review for the Conservative party, to include policing and immigration.This article also mentions some disquiet over the controversial flotation of defence research group QinetiQ.Excerpt:’Last week, Mr Cameron hired Dame Pauline to lead a policy review for the Conservative Party on international security, including areas such as policing and immigration.’


Having said that she clears her name to me, more or less, as a closet liberal leftie by these comments following the children’s Newsround programme in October 2007 when they seemed to blame the west and America in particular for upsetting Al Qaeda.Excerpt:’Dame Pauline, who is now a shadow security spokesman, added: “Al Qaeda make the manifestly false claim that America is part of an enormous Jewish-Christian conspiracy to dominate the world and kill Muslims.”This is no secret - Osama bin Laden has said as much himself.”We know that in the long run the struggle against terrorists is a battle for hearts and minds.”How can we expect to win when our national broadcaster is parroting their line to our own children? There is only one set of people who are ever to blame for terrorist attacks and that’s the perpetrators themselves.”Dame Pauline said the BBC was a “national treasure” and she had been proud to serve as a governor.”But from time to time I have found myself asking questions about BBC’s attitude to terrorism. It even orders its journalists not to use the word terrorist,” she added.’


My thoughts: I’m sure that Pauline Neville-Jones is an honourable woman, and I don’t mean to be discourteous. I’m sure she has had no ulterior motives throughout her highly successful career. I don’t think most people in public life are self-serving hypocrites. But the above excerpts might cast some light on the fact that everyone in public life has a history and relationships which impact on their statements and beliefs. I’m still disappointed that she seemed to infer that, with understanding, we can bring an end to islamist fundamentalism. Short of all-out war - NOT to be recommended as it is impractical, the enemy is not geographically identifiable, and thus millions of innocents would die - the only way is to strengthen and mobilise the vast tracts of the ordinary people in such countries against these terrorists. Here at home, we need to do the same. A bit of backing from broadcasters might help. Here again, I congratulate the BBC’s Newsnight for its current airing of these issues. We don’t start by going back to Stage 1, and psycho-analysing the psychotics while Rome … erm … Britain burns.


For those of us who think that it is only we British Christians that fundamentalist terrorists pursue, because our government was nasty to the poor innocents, read this:This Syrian intellectual is emigrating to Europe after death threats posted on an Al-Qaeda website calling for his assassination.

Death Threats, Al-Qaeda Fatwas Against Syrian Writer

Syrian writer and researcher Nabil Fayadh has announced that he will emigrate to Europe following death threats and following the posting on Al-Qaeda websites of fatwas calling for his assassination.

The threats and fatwas followed the publication of a book by Fayadh that included stories of disputes between the wife of the Prophet Muhammad, ‘Aisha, and Caliph Uthman bin ‘Afan Ali bin Abu Taleb.

Source: Alarabiya.net, January 16, 2008


And A Former European Prime Minister Lays It On the Line1/18/2008ISLAMABAD: Former prime minister of Spain Jose Maria Aznar said in an article published in a Spanish newspaper that Al-Qaeda, according to all available reports, killed former premier Benazir Bhutto.“I met Benazir Bhutto in 1994 in her only official visit to Spain. She was in her 2nd mandate, which was finally interrupted, like the first, by conspiracies against her government while Pakistan found itself in the midst of a very difficult situation, both internally and externally,” Jose Maria Aznar wrote in daily La Razon.“Pakistan was then the epicenter of a serious regional crisis and was coping with the effects of the Afghan war. That was the origin of Al-Qaeda.”Jose Maria Aznar wrote that since the beginning, Jihadist radicalism had exported terror to the whole world.“What was then a local development has transformed itself into a global threat that affects and threatens our values and our freedoms.”“Ms Bhutto was a brave woman, a great leader with a tragic personal and family life, full of exiles, prison, glory and power.She was the first female prime minister in a Muslim country, one of the most populated of the planet and the only one with nuclear weapons.Very recently she had sent me greetings through a common friend. They tried to assassinate her as soon as she came back to her country from her long exile.”The former Spanish premier wrote that finally the threats of the terrorist groups were realised when a killer assassinated her and finished with the hope that she represented, decapitating the Pakistani People’s Party and eliminating the candidate that according to all the polls was going to win the next general elections in Pakistan.Her murder, Jose Maria Aznar noted, puts again Pakistan in the center of the international agenda and remembers those who had forgotten about it that the destiny of Pakistan is vital for the cause of freedom and for the battle against radicalism and terrorism.LATEST UPDATESGone all quiet as to whether there really IS a British cell of AQ yet in Britain. Just as well, really. I suggest the security services and the government eliminate them quietly. And would somebody please sit on the ‘Human Rights’ twits while they do it. The “human” rights act does not apply to such as these.A few days after this British AQ business another messsage was posted at that site, saying that if Britain did not remove its troops from Iraq by the end of March, we are all targets, and it looks like Blair & Brown are goners. The article on WTOP News says there is a pattern to an earlier threat after which the 7/7/2005 London bombings took place.Excerpt from message:

Statement of the Leader of al-Qaeda in Britain, Shaykh Umar Rabie al-Khalaila: We, the organization of Al-Qaeda in Britain, offer a truce to the British government.Our demands are as follows:I. A complete withdrawal of the British troops from Afghanistan and Iraq. II. To free all Muslim captives from Belmarsh prison, and the foremost of them Shaykh Abu Qatada al-Filistini and Shaykh Abu Hamza al-Misri.

If the British government fails to respond to our demands by the last day of March 2008 as they fail to answer to the truce of our Shaykh Usama bin Laden and to the truce of the Emir of Believers Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, then the Martyrdom seekers of the organisation of al-Qaeda in Britain will target all the political leaders especially Tony Blair and Gordan Brown, and we will also target all Embassies, Crusaders Centers and their Interests through out the country, with the help of Allah.

Finally, all praise is to Allah.

Umar Rabie al-Khalaila The leader of Al-Qaeda in Britain

The organisation of Al-Qaeda in Britain

23- January 2008


My thoughts:The way things are in this country at the moment, if they could manage a nice clean surgical strike on the Brothers B, they’d be greeted by some as heroes!

Dhimmitude thrives in the land of Winston Churchill.

See The Times report on the threats.




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4 Responses to “A.Q. & Tory Hug-A-Terrorist Away Days!”

  1. shaz Says:

    Hi

    Oh my this is where we have been going wrong !!! we should have been hugging the baddies !! how ridiculous can you get. It drives me nuts when they say we have to “work out what is upsetting them, and understand them” what is there to understand?? they are out to kill us , we had better get used to it , it has been going on long before Afghanistan war or Iraq war and will continue to go on until we submit to radical version of Islam and include Sharia law within our legal system. I agree we must try to stop people going to join these radical groups, but once they are there , there isn’t a lot you can do but detain , jail and if they are a real serious threat kill them. All this softly, softly approach gets really silly sometimes it goes beyond belief and as for the Human rights thing, don’t me started !!!! I can see from a certain view why the Human rights thing was brought into being, but many are abusing it. It really worries me that when some terrorist claims Human rights the judge is going to listen to them for fear of the blacklash of the Liberal left and let them go, there is always that worry the judge may let them off when they really shouldn’t. The Human rights laws seem to protect the minority but not the majority ie you and I and the other law abiding citizens of the UK. You then get the Liberal lefties screaming Human rights law at everything, even if it hasn’t anything to do with Human rights !! you know what I mean?

    As regards these websites they probably are a propaganda thing, all the more reason why they should be shut down so as not to incite and recruit people. The site may not be a terrorist site as such, but some who visit and contribute might be tempted to go on to such activities themselves.If they leave these sites up and running it is condoning what they say, which of course none of us with any sense do.There are always these civil liberties groups one run by a woman called “Shami’ can’t remember full name, do you know who I mean? she is always saying NOT to shut down these site, and not to BAN these groups as they will go underground, !! What ?? !! So we just have to let these groups continue on regardless?? !! This would also explain those people who say “we should never have gone to war in Afghanistan or Iraq” one of the very good reasons we went to both was to destroy the terrorists training camps and stop them from coming to our shores. If we had listened to these civil liberties groups etcc I hate to think what situation we would be in now don’t you?. War isn’t always the answer it is the last answer, but when war is declared on you , Bin Laden’s declaration of war in 1998 (think that is the right year) then you know they mean buisness. Some people seem to think that if only we get out of Afghanistan and Iraq everything will be alright the terrorists won’t attack us, it isn’t as simple as that and it isn’t about Iraq and Afghanistan as such. If only people were to have listened to Tony Blair and listen to George Bush about what it really is all about perhaps they might learn something, if they did that. I somehow think though that the population haven’t even read the declaration of war Bin Laden made, as far as I am aware it hasn’t been in public domain. Some people think it is something that Tony Blair , George Bush made up just to stop people’s liberties and scare them, I wish it was that and not the reality.

    As regards USA being worried about terrorists amongst Europe including ourselves, they have every right to be worried, and every right to do what they deem fit to fight this threat. Of course whatever plan they decide to use to fight the terrorists in our country or any other country for that matter, has to be in accordance with our Prime Minister and leaders of the other countries, no doubt the USA would seek to get agreement. But if the USA feels there is a threat coming from our country or another to it’s country, then it should be able to deal with it. I can understand why USA feels worried , because of the Pakistani link between UK and Pakistan and the danger of UK/Pakistani citizens becoming involved in terrorists activities.

    But yes she has “gone away with the fairies” if she thinks that foreign policy or hugging, understanding terrorists will solve this major problem, living in cloud cuckoo land !!.

    I only hope that the rest of the security services don’t think the same way otherwise like Fraser the man from Dad’s army once said “Were’ doomed” !!!

    From Shaz

  2. keeptonyblairforpm Says:

    Shaz,

    Well put.

    I hesitate to criticise people in our country who have held a position in the security services, as they have a much wider understanding of the threat than the rest of us, obviously. But Dame Neville-Jones really DID seem to have a ‘politically partisan’ hat on with her remarks on Newsnight, rather than her experienced ‘Islamist threat’ hat. Jumping on the libertarian bandwagon is not a good idea at this time, in my humble opinion.

    We need strong, resolute leadership.

    Little regard as I have for the present prime minister, I think that he now has a clearer understanding of the breadth and depth of the threats now that he is party to the available intelligence.

    He and his predecessor are probably working together right now to see how to counter the inevitable backlash from the liberal intelligentsia press when they start their “all Blair’s fault” stuff again!

    Absolute codswallop!

    At least we now know that ALL top politicians are under threat in this country, including the former PM, according to this DECLARATION. So Cameron will also be in the killers’ sights, and several hundred other MPs. Maybe THAT will focus their minds.

    Oh, and the rest of us too are targets clearly, including Muslims who don’t support the madness. Particularly perhaps such law-abiding Muslims, I should imagine, pour encourager les autres.

    It might strengthen the ID cards argument, though sadly that’ll take years to implement and probably will not stop the determined.

    I expect the suicide recruits aim for a nice clean surgical strike and will only blow up pro-war parliamentarians - leaving the silly Lib Dems and nationalists to surrender gracefully - as all good followers of this evil creed fly their Islamist flag over Downing Street.

    Hate to sound alarmist, it’s not really my nature, but as the conspiratorial Left like to say, whilst telling us who are really the BAD guys (Bush, Blair et al) - is it time for waking up to the smell of that coffee?

  3. Karen mckenzie Says:

    I agree one hundred percent with everything you and shaz have said it is time to get real.That is what the majority of sensible British Citizens want to happen before it is to late it is times like this I wish TB was still p.m.

  4. keeptonyblairforpm Says:

    Hi Karen,

    Interesting how there is nothing in today’s papers about this. Only Newsnight ran it last night and the midnight Radio 4 news.

    I don’t know whether the media are taking the principled decision that no publicity is good publicity. If so, and it IS principled, I understand and respect that. On the other hand, if it’s because they think it’s all overblown hype and these guys are just silly teenagers and will soon disappear up their own angst, they have another think coming, imho.

    It may well be that this is a sign of AQ weakness rather than their strength of course - and it’s all a last gasp from the AQ leadership. But I doubt it somehow.

    If it doesn’t happen now and these people are foiled from starting an AQ unit here, it’s only a matter of time. That was the position in Iraq too, when the insurgents started kiling their own. The nonsense about the west “fomenting the situation” is puerile and avoids facing the facts.

    We’re dealing with a fundamental politicised “religion” which is unable to be dealt with through normal channels. And it has been decades in the making. Not a recent invention of Bush and/or Blair.

    As for doing what most people want - I really don’t know how. The press is fervently anti upsetting the Muslim community, though I think they have that one wrong. Law-abiding Muslims can’t seem to control the stray dogs. They’d appreciate the strength of the law behind them. Laws should be targeted specifically towards the relevant communities.

    To hell with political correctness.

    Plenty of time for that when we’re dead and gone, and have to explain ourselves to She Who Will Be Obeyed ;0)

    The ‘enemy within’ writes and reads many of our tabloids.

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