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10th October, 2008
MANDATORY EXECUTION FOR APOSTASY (see explanation)
Found this on Curly’s Corner Shop - Jump here to read it
UPDATE TO THIS:
NO, HANG ON … IT’S ABOUT HARMING MENTAL SECURITY IN SOCIETY!!!
You don’t mean they’ve got that problem in Iran too? They’re half bonkers like many online westerners? Surely not?
It seems this new law is aimed to cover ‘crimes on the internet’, and includes prostitution and the “promotion of corruption”, as well as apostasy.
According to Gulf News on July 2nd, Iran is considering the “death penalty for web-related crimes”. Hardly news, as you can see here.
Tehran: A law that could see the death penalty imposed for cyber crimes is set to be debated in Iran’s parliament, reports said on Wednesday.
Under the draft bill, those found guilty of promoting corruption, prostitution and apostasy on the internet may face the death penalty. The bill aims to “toughen punishment for harming mental security in society,” Iran’s ISNA news agency said.
ISNA said MPs placed the bill as a high priority discussion on the agenda.
Setting up weblogs and sites which promote any of the crimes listed in the bill are punishable by death.
According to the bill, those convicted of these crimes “should be punished as ‘mohareb’ (enemy of God) and ‘corrupt on the earth’.”
Iran imposes strict restrictions on internet access, blocking thousands of sites which may carry content deemed immoral or religiously and politically inappropriate.
Noteworthy is that NO-ONE has seen fit to leave a comment at the Gulf News site. No thoughts? No concerns? Or just intimidated? I know what I think. But then I live in a free country where you can urge the enemy to kill our prime minister and get applauded for it by your peers.
CURLY:
Religious freedom needs protection
David Miliband commented yesterday that he “deplored the way in which the Iranian Parliament is… now discussing a draft penal code that would set out a mandatory death sentence for the crime, quote unquote, of apostasy.” He went on to say that “If adopted, [the legislation] would violate the right to freedom of religion, which is also an important basis of any civilised society.”
Everyone should have the basic human right to follow a religion or not, or even be an atheist as Miliband professes he is, this should not be a matter which requires legislation, but in Iran it seems that the following of Islam is to controlled in the most brutal of fashions!
If they insist on executing people who decide not to be religious then they cannot expect the rest of the world to treat them as a civilised society.
According to The National Secular Society the bill “is aimed at stopping conversions to Christianity, which have been increasing in Iran. Several people have already been jailed for converting.”
[Aside: And who says there is not a clash of civilisations?
Oh alright, Mr Blair said it, 21st March 2006. "This is not a clash between civilisations. It is a clash about civilisation."
Is that just semantics? Mr Blair seems to genuinely hold true Islam in high esteem. But read here to understand that it is certainly a clash "about civilisation", as Blair said. A clash between barbarism and civilisation itself.
Not for the first time I say - sort it out, please, moderate Muslims!]
The National Secular Society says: Miliband’s denouncement of those who would execute their own people for denouncing a RELIGION – or even for just CONVERTING without verbal denouncement – is to be welcomed. It is part of his recent condemnation of Iran’s record on Human Rights and nuclear ambitions in the House of Commons.
Excerpt:
Miliband: “The right hon. Gentleman makes an important point: how a country treats its own citizens is often a good indicator of how it is willing to treat citizens in other parts of the world. Perhaps I can give him the figures, which are horrific. Some 235 people have been executed in Iran during the first eight months of this year, and there were more than 300 executions last year—that was an increase from 177 in 2006. He also rightly says that Iran executes more juvenile offenders than any other country in the world. He is absolutely right to raise those human rights questions. We raise them too, and we deplore the way in which the Iranian Parliament is also now discussing a draft penal code that would set out a mandatory death sentence for the crime, quote unquote, of apostasy. If adopted, that would violate the right of freedom of religion, which is also an important basis of any civilised society. I am pleased that he has raised the issue of human rights, and I assure him that we have raised it too.”
Those with a knee-jerk reaction to anything which upsets the Iranians, for fear of upping the anti on their nuclear ambitions, should mull this over.
We do not seem to be dealing with anything approaching a free society in Iran under Ahmadinejad and his cronies. The time may be coming when we cannot pass by on the other side; for the sake of the Iranian people as well as the rest of us.
Interesting that I have as yet found nothing about this in the mainstream press. Why not? What are they afraid of?
In the absence of Tony Blair, it may well be that David Miliband is making all the right noises. Perhaps the time is coming when we will have a self-declared atheist as a Prime Minister after all.
Not that being an unbeliever is a way to escape if this law is passed in Iran. You’d still be considered an infidel.
If this is what Iran wishes to do to those of other religions who presumably worship the same God (I for one have problems with that concept) I wonder what Iran would do to atheists!? Probably just declare them insane and deport them to London. A suitable place for mad deniers.
- Glasgow Airport Trial – on Blair/Brown handover, June 2007. Do you recall Alex Salmond boasting that Scotland had “no problem” with its Muslims? I do. Playing silly b*g**rs, or showing his ignorance of the problems. You choose. When I find it, I’ll link to it. Meanwhile read this. And this.
- Whitemoor Prison – Inmates V prison officers – Who do YOU think is winning? The clue is in the title
- Police Officers hear of concerns of British Muslims – not AGAIN!
- Blair in Turkey – 1. Hopeful that Turkey can work on Hamas to accept Israel’s right to exist. 2. Blair plans to ally his Faith Foundation with the U.N.’s “Alliance of Civilizations”. Working through his Faiths Act Fellowship will not endear him to all Christians, as evidenced by its description by Christian anti-abortionists as “pro-abortion”
- Egypt ready to host a meeting of The Quartet, Israeli & Palestinians
- ‘Pakistan heading towards anarchy’, says Imran Khan – and it’s America’s fault! Sillies. They should have just put up with terrorism, and left it to their grandchildren to sort out. As Pakistan does.
But back to silly Salmond.
SNP leader Alex Salmond in conversation with Osama Saeed in Glasgow’s George Square on 30 October 2006. Discussion was around issues following Jack Straw’s comments regarding the niqab. This was six months prior to the Glasgow Airport bombings, where bomb materials were said to have been found in Renfrewshire homes.
‘A search of the alleged terrorists’ bomb factory at 6 Neuk Crescent in Houston, Renfrewshire, uncovered all the materials needed to make improvised explosive devices.’
Left - Scottish based Bilal Abdulla, and right - Mohammed Asha. Two doctors charged with Glasgow & London bombings at the Blair/Brown handover
And evidence in court today says that Dr Abdulla left a will to … wait for it … Osama Bin Laden!
Oh, naw, Mr Salmond! Nae hame grown terrorists in YOUR smiley environment, eh Big Fella? Naebody like Bilal Abdulla, of Houston Renfrewshire, eh?!
OK, I remember the ‘innocent until proven guilty’ business. I remembered it too when you, Salmond, rubbed your thumb and index finger together when you abused and insulted Mr Blair in parliament over the honours nonsense.
I’m a Scot, so I can say these things without being accused of being anti-Scot. Nor am I anti-Muslim. Nor am I anti-ethnic minorities. Nor do I have a colour/race prejudiced bone in my body. But I DO have concerns over radical Islamism. And I will have until they fix it.
And Mr Salmond – if you still think terrorism was invented by your arch-enemy Tony Blair, the man who constantly made you look like an uncouth gleekit, scowling scunner in Parliament, you came up the Clyde in a banana boat. (To put it an un-pc Glaswegian way.)
Aye ye can joke and smile, wee Alex, but ye canny run.
This is a good resume of Scotland’s present situation under the Scottish Nationalist Party. Mr Blair must wonder, just now and again, if he did the right thing in allowing Scotland to vote on devolution, given who is presently in charge of the country of Blair’s birth.
Earlier this year: 13 – Unlucky for some: Terrorists jailed
Tags: 1. Tony Blair, Alex Salmond, David Miliband, Foreign Secretary in Gordon Brown's government, from June 2007, execute for denouncing Islam, Glasgow airport trial, Iran apostasy laws, no Scottish problem with terrorism, religious intolerance
