Comment at end
19th June, 2009
NATIONALISTS TRIED TO CRIMINALISE OUR PRIME MINISTER USING OUR MONEY
Has something wiped that sneakit' smile off your face, Salmond?
ARREST THE LOT OF THEM
Can’t be bothered working out if there were 12 or just 9 (Nats all) of these accomplices in crime, but you get the picture.
According to the MPs’ expenses reports released today by the House of Commons in black and a touch of white, Alex Salmond, the leader of the SNP (Scottish National Party) and ‘colleagues’ used money from the public purse to attempt to TRY Tony Blair over the Iraq war.
That’s your money and mine! And without so much as a “by your leave”. And Salmond is now forced to defend his indefensible position.
Personally I’d like to see these people arrested for this act of treachery on our country. Stealing OUR money for THEIR regime change.
Alex Salmond, Scottish Nationalist Party leader’s expenses. See his 2004 detailed pdf file here. “Alex Salmond claimed £14,100 from his office expense allowances to pay for legal advice on impeaching Tony Blair, with the advice provided by Cherie Blair’s Matrix law chambers. More on this here.
I have already written here a few weeks ago about the Welsh Nationalist MPs doing the same thing. Except that they did not think it would be even more entertaining to get the legal firm of the former PM’s wife to help to twist the knife. (Great sense of theatre, Salmond, eh?)
So, BOTH of the parties seeking the break-up of the UK set out to impeach and oust the UK Prime Minister and WE the people, the huge majority British unionists, not separatists, were expected to pay for it!
I accept that there are people misguided … mad enough to believe that this country was led for ten years by a “war criminal”. There are also people who think Saddam was a respectable gentlemen.
Such people as the Nats are welcome to try to indict any politician they want; of course they are.
But they are NOT welcome to use the public purse to attempt to do so.
If they had enough faith in their own arguments they should have put their hands in their own pockets and not yours and mine. We, the British public did NOT ask these politically motivated MPs to do this in 2004. In fact at no time did we ask them to do this. Was this PUBLIC cash pot mentioned in either party’s manifesto? Of course not.
And in 2005 to prove our (dis)satisfaction with Blair, and three years into the war in Iraq, we the British public voted for Blair and his party AGAIN – for a third time.
If you can manage to trace the Scottish National Party’s manifesto for 2005, perhaps you can let me know. The link from this ‘2005 party maifestos’ website is dead. And if you try to enter the “official website of the Scottish National party” you’ll get an “access forbidden” page. Hmm..mm… VERY OPEN government. More on the Scots Nats here and I have finally found their website here. Still no 2005 manifesto, though.
But yesterday one of their press releases backs criminal sanctions for those who “break the rules” on expenses. Would that be a hands-up guv? Fair cop?
‘Speaking about the proposals for legal sanctions against wayward MPs Westminster SNP Leader Angus Robertson said:
“Westminster must introduce new legal sanctions against MPs that break the rules. The public are quite right when they say that MPs should not be exempt from serious consequences if they break the rules.’
QUITE.
Plaid Cymru’s 2005 manifesto (pdf) Excerpt:
‘Plaid Cymru the Party of Wales, opposed US/UK military action in Afghanistan and Iraq. We are now leading the campaign to impeach Tony Blair for the way he twisted the truth to justify the war in Iraq.’
But they didn’t think it worth mentioning that they had already charged US, the voters, for this ‘campaign’, did they?
Presumably WE the British public are in our millions complicit in the “crimes” of this “war criminal” and should all be standing in the crowded dock alongside him (unless we voted for the Nats or their ilk.)
So that gets me out of jail free, since I did not vote for Labour.
I would now! If only Blair were leading it.
Ignoring Alex Salmond won’t make him go away
(UNFORTUNATELY)
(Following Salmond’s shifty crowd’s 2007 success, by ONE seat, at the Scottish Parliament elections.)
Knowing what we now know about Salmond’s attempts to impeach Blair, do you wonder? Would YOU ring up and congratulate someone who had just tried to get you behind bars? I certainly wouldn’t.
IT’S ALL TONY’S FAULT
Just a reminder here that Tony Blair, the Great Evil Dictator himself, changed the expenses rules in 2004 on second homes, aka flipping, which have now led to so many of the present unhappy gang of MPs coming a cropper. WHY didn’t they notice? Another thing the GED did was to introduce the Freedom of Information legislation in 2000. Prior to this the public had NO IDEA what expenses MPs were claiming.
Nice one, Tony. But you won’t get the credit – only the blame.
MORE ON THE NASTY NATS
I don’t know exactly which of the Scottish National accomplices … erm … MPs charged us for their failed attempt to oust Blair and get him in jail. But these are the only ones I can find who were sitting in parliament at that time. Not that they often came.
I do know all three Welsh Nationalist MPs have already admitted to claiming for the same attempt. They divided up their initial £4,000 legal charges between the three of them.
The Nasty Nine – or Hateful Eight, according to my count.
PLAID CYMRU MPs
- Wikipedia List of all Plaid Cymru MPs
- Elfyn Llwyd – Plaid Cymru MP from 2001 to present day
- Adam Price
- Hywel Williams
SNP MPs
- List of_Scottish_National_Party_MPs
- Annabelle Ewing – 2001 – 2005
- Angus Robertson, 2001 to now
- Alex Salmond, 1987 to now
- Michael Weir, 2001 to now
- Peter Wishart 2001 to now
MPs’ expenses have now been published by the House of Commons. The pdf files on EACH of the MPs (not just Blair’s) have been largely blacked out, for ‘data protection’ reasons (another Blair innovation in 1998. You couldn’t make this up!)
But worry not, dear honest truth seekers. The Telegraph will soon complete its service to the British people and democracy and fill in the blanks.
David Cameron, Conservative leader, 2004- 2008
Gordon Brown, present Prime Minister, 2004- 2008
Nick Clegg, Liberal Democrat leader, 2004- 2008
(For further insights on the three above, click the links next to view each year in detail.)
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Welsh Nationalists failed plan to oust Blair – THEIR legal costs paid by you and me
See Elfyn Llwyd’s expenses here
Salmond defends his action against atacks in Scotland
Teletext coverage of Salmond’s bid to convict Blair
Cameron to pay back some more of his expenses
Daily Mail – Tony Blair’s new roof. Looks like he needed one. Bullet-proof windows too? Remember Blair was entitled to this, whether we approve or not. Salmond and co were NOT entitled to charge US to aid in their little scheme of blackening the name and reputation of our then PM. The press were doing that well enough, anyway.
The Nats’ aim was no less than “regime change”.
It’s a pity Blair allowed these people a devolved Scottish parliament in the first place, one of his first actions in 1997.
Oh, yes, another thing you couldn’t make up.
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Tags: Alex Salmond, Cherie Blair, Cherie Booth, David Cameron, Elfyn LLwyd, Gordon Brown, Iraq inquiry, Matrix Chambers, MPs expenses, nick clegg, Plaid Cymru, Scottish National Party, SNP, SNP Mps, Tony Blair
June 19, 2009 at 1:39 pm |
**Personally I’d like to see these people arrested for this act of treachery on our country. Stealing OUR money for THEIR regime change.**
Hi B, I totally agree with what you’ve said. Do you think Gordon Brown knew about and supported their treacherous stunt? For the past two years I’ve suspected Alex Salmond of being in cahoots with George Galloway and Gordon Brown to oust Tony Blair from office. Do you know if the Fees Office in Westminster approved the expenses claim you’ve featured in this blogpost or is there a separate fees office for Scotland? And will Mr Salmond be repaying the funds claimed – if not, why not?
June 19, 2009 at 2:15 pm
I don’t know about Brown. I don’t think so, actually. He couldn’t be associated with that, overtly, in any way. After all, he tried to dissociate himself with the Blair coup in the summer of 2006, and was reported as saying to Balls and Co – “keep me off the radar on this.”
And of course we ALL knew about the ‘Impeach Blair’ campaign at the time. It was in the public domain. The fact that Brown too was not too keen on talking to Salmond – as in the video – seems to point in the other direction. He and Blair must have wished at times that they hadn’t allowed the Scots to vote on devolution in 1997 after all! (Brown was more keen on devolution than Blair, of course.)
It’s the Westminster fees office where all British parliament MPs are listed. The SNP people are boasting that their expenses are more OPEN for MSPs. Good. For them. So they will be able to protect themselves from ‘fiddling’ them.
Salmond SHOULD be repaying these particular illicit claims – thus the pressure on my blog – as should the rest of them. Sadly, it’ll depend on how hard the press push this. I suspect, not a lot.
As for Galloway – that little ****! He’s a copper-plated wally! Brown would not, surely not, EVER associate with HIM!?
No, I think your thoughts on something else going on behind the scenes, which inspired my Granita/Desperados post is nearer the mark.
These guys have a PLAN. And nothing is going to consign their PROJECT for New Labour to history if they can help it. Even their love/hate ups and downs will not be allowed to interfere with this.
Take a look at the new link at the top of that post on today’s Telegraph story. Brown is doing friendly financial things with the rest of EUROPE!?!
Who’d have thunk it!?
June 19, 2009 at 3:15 pm |
Hi B, I find it very difficult to believe that Scotsman Gordon Brown was not lurking in the dark or not in the know.
http://blairfoundation.blogspot.com/2009/06/iraq-inquiry-must-investigate-scottish.html#links
Let’s hope that the new Iraq Inquiry sheds some light on all of these issues and that Mr Salmond repays the funds. Here’s another question. Why are these bruisers all Scottish? Even Alistair Darling is Scottish. At times I even wondered if there was a concerted plot by a Scottish mafia to ruin England and take control of Britain’s oil and nuclear submarine bases. Please don’t laugh. I’m serious. It seemed to me that the attack on Glasgow airport carried out by medics showed that something terribly evil had been going on.
June 19, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Hi Blairite – First of all, thanks for using some of my post at your blog.
Well, as for the Scots thing – worrying isn’t it? Though the only person IN THE WORLD as far as I know who has run a blog IN SUPPORT OF TONY BLAIR for the last three years is, in all modesty, Yours Truly – A SCOT.
And Tom Harris is the only Labour MP who often reminds us at his site that his hero is Blair. Tom too is a Scot. We’re not all obnoxious evil bas****s. Honestly!
None of my relatives in Scotland would be thinking of taking England over, as far as I know. Not that I’ve asked them! They’re as interested in politics as most Brits – not much.
Well, time will tell about Brown. But Salmon is a blab. If he had anything on Brown, particularly over shifting Blair, he couldn’t resist telling us!
The attack on Glasgow airport covered me with a sense of schadenfreude. A few months before the terror attack, that Salmond idiot had just told us all that Scotland was not a place with ANY multicultural problems. He was having a dig at the rest of us south of the border, AND at Westminster politicians. And then those medics from a hospital I know well in Glasgow strutted their stuff!
Beautiful.
June 19, 2009 at 8:40 pm |
**Take a look at the new link at the top of that post on today’s Telegraph story. Brown is doing friendly financial things with the rest of EUROPE!?**
Sorry, I cannot find the link to the Telegraph story.
**Salmon is a blab. If he had anything on Brown, particularly over shifting Blair, he couldn’t resist telling us!**
Good point. I hope its true.
What’s so depressing about all of this is that it detracts from stuff we really need to know. For example: the pros and cons of being a member of the EU and the euro, what the Irish are saying about the Lisbon Treaty, what are the policies of our main parties re Europe. There’s so much confusion and it seems to be getting worse. I suppose the most telling thing will be is on Monday: who they elect as Speaker. If, after the MPs expenses scandal, one of the guilty ones is elected, I’ll want to turn my back on politics.
June 19, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Forgotten which post that was in, Blairite. Will check in a minute and come back and add the link to this comment.
It was at the top of this post:
http://keeptonyblairforpm.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/the-three-musketeers-from-granita-to-desperados/
Telegraph :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/5577281/Gordon-Brown-surrenders-key-powers-over-financial-regulation-to-Brussels.html
The new speaker will be someobody with a clean balance sheet, you can be sure of that. Though as I have said before I think a lot of this is exaggerated. In any organisation, especially where incomes are held back artificially for accountancy reasons or profit/income/expenditure balancing, perks are the way income is made up. They were held back in Parliament because the people were told by the press that the MPs were being greedy while they, the people were struggling.
We ALL know it about the tricks over income in business. And these Telegraph readers and writers know it better than most.
I find it all pretty hypocritical, actually. Though the charging for the non-existent mortgages IS definitely NOT on.
No party ever discusses Europe, do they? The people have been so brainwashed against it by the press. The press, imho, has a lot to answer for, for the state we’re in. More than the politicians, since the politicians are required to JUMP to the needs of the press for a soundbite a day. Thus Alastair Campbell, as a former journalist, understood how it all worked, supplied them with the goods, and then got shot down in flames when they took a dislike to the message.
June 19, 2009 at 10:22 pm |
OK. Thanks. It’s the same report I’ve filed here
FRIDAY, 19 JUNE 2009
Gordon Brown signs up to creation of new EU financial regulator – Regulation of City may be handed to Brussels
http://blairfoundation.blogspot.com/2009/06/gordon-brown-signs-up-to-creation-of.html
Sorry, I don’t share your confidence that we can be sure they’ll elect a Speaker who is not tainted. Bercow and Beckett are among the front runners. My fear is that the wrong decision will cause terrible damage.
I wonder if you are old enough to have experienced living and working through the three day week in the 1970’s. It was horrendous. Rubbish piled up in the streets and the dead not buried. The country was on its knees. Check out my latest posts, I fear the same is happening all over again, a General Strike is looming.
June 19, 2009 at 10:40 pm
The Winter of Discontent?
I remember it well, Blairite. You and I are both baby boomers, like Blair.
There IS that fear. I just don’t know. Different opinions as to the length of the recession. The big difference now is that the Unions do not have the power they then had.
The Police are after some politicians including the Liberal Democrats, according to Newsnight, over money landering. Now THAT will be a punch on their sanctimonious nose. It seems they may have broken the 2002 Proceeds of Crime Act.
Murkier and yet murkier still.
Can’t wait to see how the Independent and the Guardian crowd deal with this as they seem to be all Lib Dems these days.
Also, Brown says in tomorrow’s Guardian “I could walk away from all this tomorrow.”
He says he’s been hurt in recent weeks more than ever before in politics, and looks forward to a more normal life.
Who’d want to be PM today?
No idea.
WOW!
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