Comment at end
8th July, 2009
FAO – Conservative MP David Davis (click to read) AND Ian Cobain (click to read), today’s tome writer at The Guardian
(My advice – start listening to the people)
This came into my inbox today.
It was written by a Canadian woman, but oh how it also applies to the U.S. , U.K. and Australia.
THIS ONE PACKS A FIRM PUNCH
Written by a housewife in New Brunswick, to her local newspaper. This is one ticked-off lady.
‘Are we fighting a war on terror or aren’t we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001 and have continually threatened to do so since?
Were people from all over the world, not brutally murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan , across the Potomac from the nation’s capitol and in a Field in Pennsylvania ?
Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn’t they?
And I’m supposed to care that a few Taliban were claiming to be tortured by a justice system of the nation they come from and are fighting against in a brutal insurgency.
I’ll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.
I’ll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere belief of which is a crime punishable by beheading in Afghanistan .
I’ll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for hacking off Nick Berg’s head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.
I’ll care when the cowardly so-called ‘insurgents’ in Afghanistan come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in Mosques.
I’ll care when the mindless zealots who blows themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide Bombs.
I’ll care when the Canadian media stops pretending that their freedom of speech on stories is more important than the lives of the soldiers on the ground or their families waiting at home to hear about them when something happens.
In the meantime, when I hear a story about a CANADIAN soldier roughing up an insurgent terrorist to obtain information, know this:
I don’t care.
When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank .
I don’t care.
When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed ’special’ food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being ‘mishandled,’ you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts:
I don’t care.
And oh, by the way, I’ve noticed that sometimes it’s spelled ‘Koran’ and other times ‘Quran.’ Well, Jimmy Crack Corn you guessed it,
I don’t care!!
If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail friends. Sooner or later, it’ll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behaviour!
If you don’t agree, then by all means hit the delete button. Should you choose the latter, then please don’t complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great Country! And may I add:
‘Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Soldiers don’t have that problem.’
I have another quote that I would like to add, AND…….I hope you forward all this.
One last thought for the day:
Only five defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
1. Jesus Christ
2. The Canadian Soldier.
3. The British Soldier.
4. The US Soldier, and
5. The Australian Soldier
One died for your soul, the other 4 for your freedom.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS THIS ON, AS MANY SEEM TO FORGET ALL OF THEM.
Related
Cobain’s at it again. Anyone who mentions this name – Shami Chakrabarti – is onto a loser with me. Sorry to be personal. But I find her unending attacks on MY country and on our former prime minister’s integrity PERSONAL.
The usually well-balanced Tory blogger Iain Dale has the courtesy to ASK if Davis is right. And to ask, more or less, if we care. The commenters I have read there seems to think that we don’t actually care – for instance, “fight fire with fire”. But I DO care that David Davis and idiots – almost said “other idiots” - take such high-minded delight in questioning our police, our intelligence services and our government when THEY are the ones in the hot seat, NOT the high-minded!
Commenters excerpts:
1 “Another nation uses torture, and we let them, and somehow it is *us* that is being the most heavily criticised here? Let us hear some louder criticism of the foreign cultures that actually *do* this. Let us do everything in our power to stop them, to end their misrule.”
2 “I just wish David Davis and the rest of Parliament would show as much concern for the well-being of our servicemen and women as they do for our enemies. He, they and you should get off your high horses and come into the real World. If you and all these holier-than-thou commentators were all in the firing line you might just have a more sensible and practical approach to such matters. “
3 “why is it only people whose ethnic desent is from pakistan/india/afghanistan who are ever arrested? Does this not tell you something ? Perhaps the liberal elite have beem too tolerant and we are not going to win this war because of this liberal nonsense?
Davis should join the lib dems if he wants to spout such shit !
4 ”The “values” that David Davis mistakenly thinks he is protecting in this matter are a liberal luxury that we cannot afford when confronting Islamic extremists whose stock in trade is murderous violence. They themselves regard those sort of attitudes as nothing more than weakness which is there to be exploited. And they are right.
The war on terror, just like every other existential war before it, cannot be won whilst at the same time we are obsessed with how Amnesty will regard our actions.
The unpalatable truth for the left, and those who seem to think that there are some kind of middle clas polenta eating standards that must be maintained, is that we have never won a serious conflict by playing to the Toynbee/BBC rules and we cannot win this one that way either.”
5. “Time will tell whether what David Davis did was right. I would argue that there is a case for torture, particularly when fighting a enemy that is happy to commit suicide.
Consider the following scenario:
Your wife (partner/mistress, whatever) whom you love dearly has been kidnapped. Your neighbour informs you that he has arranged it because of something that happened between the two of you in the past. He tells you that she’s tied up in a remote location where she will slowly starve to death. No amount of talk will persuade him to reveal where your loved one is hidden, no amount of money is demanded, he just wants to watch you get more and more desperate as the days go on. He denies everything when interviewed by the police and they are unable to take any action.
You are far bigger than your neighbour, and you have a few big mates who would be happy to lend you a hand. Is there anyone who wouldn’t beat the living daylights out of him if they thought that there was even a small chance of finding the whereabouts of the missing person?
Thus both M15 and the Americans have my support, maybe reluctantly, but in the limit I believe they have to take any measures at their disposal to protect the people of our countries.”
Another commenter says of David Davis -”the man he campaigns for would kill him as soon as look at him in the real world”.
Quite!
Footnote: As I wrote here recently the Rules of the Game HAVE changed. They changed in 2001, as Tony Blair said.
Dale has part of Davis’s parliamentary speech and links to the whole speech at his site. Thanks, Iain. I couldn’t be bothered looking for it.
Tags: David Davies Tory MP, David Davis, I don't care, Iain Dale, Ian Cobain Guardian, Tony Blair, torture
