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BBC’s Iraq Inquiry coverage (and impartiality rules) under scrutiny

November 7, 2010
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    7th November 2010

    UPDATE, 3rd Dec: John Rentoul links to this site with his ‘BBC Bias on Iraq’ article. Notice how the usual “Blair haters” never respond to the actual point of the story. They just regurgitate their own prejudices. The WE ALL KNOWERS are alive and well (sort of) and still after the best of us, never the worst.

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    The BBC’s watchdog, the BBC Trust, are understood to be formally considering a series of complaints about the BBC’s’ coverage of the Iraq inquiry. These relate to how the appearances of Sir Jeremy Greenstock, Jack Straw and Tony Blair were reported in news programmes.

    This was the kind of backdrop used by the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg when she gave her views on Tony Blair's testimony. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)

    The complaints allege that the one-sided selection of testimony and biased commentaries in these reports breached the BBC’s impartiality rules. They follow a complaint about their news reporter Laura Kuenssberg’s remarks during the BBC’s coverage of Tony Blair’s appearance in January at the Chilcot Inquiry, an appeal which was upheld by the BBC’s Editorial Complaints Unit on inaccuracy grounds.

    I took this picture outside the Queen Elizabeth II Conference Centre on January 29th 2010. I was a witness, more or less, at the Iraq Inquiry when Tony Blair answered questions for a full six hours.

    [More pictures and my reports from Tony Blair's appearance here and here]

    However, Kuenssberg’s coverage was found not to have broken the impartiality rules, notwithstanding that her inaccurate reporting of Sir Christopher Meyer’s evidence, chimed with the version put out by the anti-war lobby and was made against the backdrop of the anti-Blair demonstration held that day.

    I wrote about the guilty/but innocent findings over Kuenssberg at the time here.

    The complainant has argued that the impartiality rules require even-handed reporting on highly controversial matters. The Iraq inquiry obviously falls into this category so adequate pro-war testimony should have been reported alongside the anti-war testimony.

    The outcome of these appeals, expected at the turn of the year (by when a decision about the recall of Tony Blair may have been announced), will determine whether news editors are really bound by the BBC’s impartiality rules in matters of this sort. It will also determine whether the BBC can get away with its vendetta against Tony Blair which followed the Hutton Inquiry finding against them on the Kelly / ‘dodgy dossier’ affair and resulted in the resignation of their top personnel.

    It is interesting to note that the BBC’s Band Aid apology, covered in my previous post and presented here, was couched in terms of the “unfair impression” created by their treatment of the story. In his appeal to the BBC Trust the complainant referred to the “false impression” of the evidence emerging from the Iraq inquiry created by the BBC’s one-sided treatment of it based on anti-war/anti-Blair “newsworthiness”. Clearly, for logical consistency, if creating an unfair impression is wrong in the case of the BBC’s Band Aid story it must be wrong in the case of their Iraq inquiry coverage.

    Moreover if Peter Horrocks, their Director of global news, cites the fact that “the BBC can wholeheartedly acknowledge that errors have been made [on the Band Aid story]” as being “a strength”, then presumably the BBC Trust’s failure to admit errors on the BBC’s Iraq Inquiry coverage will be a sign of weakness.

    The BBC Trust’s verdict on this case will therefore not only be a verdict on the BBC’s impartiality but will also be a verdict on themselves as the BBC’s watchdog.

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    MY MESSAGE FOR THE BBC TRUST

    “I’ll be watching you”


    MY MESSAGE FOR ALL THE MEDIA

    And I’ll be watching the rest of you too. Take a look at this Telegraph “lie detector” (see Telegraph) as Mr Blair gave his evidence to the Iraq Inquiry. They were forced or advised to change the words “Lie Detector” at the top left hand corner. They did. They altered it the arguably less leading question – “Are You Convinced?” (See here on the change of title)

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    MORE RECENT POSTS AT THIS SITE RELEVANT TO IRAQ INQUIRY

    Click for further information from this site, linking to the Iraq Inquiry evidence sessions

    Former Prime Minister Tony Blair Friday Jan. 29, 2010 testifying to Britain's Iraq Inquiry. Blair told the Inquiry panel that Saddam Hussein didn't become a bigger threat after Sept. 11, but said his perception of the risk posed by terrorists acquiring weapons of mass destruction was dramatically changed by the attacks. (AP Photo/APTN)

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    This blog – Biased BBC – which keeps an eye on the BBC, generally highlighting its left-leanings, has at the foot of the page some interesting quotes from BBC broadcasters, past and present. For instance:

    Antony Jay

    “But we were not just anti-Macmillan; we were anti-industry, anti-capitalism, anti-advertising, anti-selling, anti-profit, anti-patriotism, anti-monarchy, anti-Empire, anti-police, anti-armed forces, anti-bomb, anti-authority. Almost anything that made the world a freer, safer and more prosperous place, you name it, we were anti it.”
    Antony Jay, Telegraph, July 2007

    Andrew Marr

    “..the final answer, frankly, is the vigorous use of state power to coerce and repress. It may be my Presbyterian background, but I firmly believe that repression can be a great, civilising instrument for good. Stamp hard on certain ‘natural’ beliefs for long enough and you can almost kill them off.”
    Andrew Marr, The Guardian Feb. 1999

    The quote from Jeremy Paxman makes me wonder how come he’s still working there. Perhaps, as it was for Blair within Labour, it’s his popularity that keeps him in his job.

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    And - “Mr. Blair is one of the finest politicians to have had the privilege of serving the United Kingdom, and Britons are fortunate to have had him as their Prime Minister. Time will show that Mr. Blair’s approach to affairs in the Middle East were and remain correct. From a member of the Commonwealth, thank you, Mr. Blair, for your continued service to legitimate and lasting (and not convenient or politically expedient) freedom.”

    AND – “Tony Blair was the greatest Prime Minister since Winston Churchill and the only regret I have he didn’t get my vote as I live in Canada.”

    AND – “I am sick and tired of television and radio interviewers asking the same old questions over and over, regarding the decision to go to war in Iraq, presumably they hope Mr Blair will let slip some secret information which they would then use against him. History will show if the decision was the right one, (I believe it was) but people must accept that Tony Blair is an honourable man, and made his decision based on the known facts and not with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight.”



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    BBC APOLOGISES TO BLAIR. Oh, sorry, I meant GELDOF. Well, it’s a start

    November 5, 2010
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    There are two BBC matters of current interest today.

    Firstly their strike over pensions. My adjustment of their picture at the Press Gazette reminds us of yesterday’s matter of BBC interest. This, second matter, aired yesterday, concerned their apology for  “the unfair impression” created by their Band Aid claims earlier this year.

    The BBC apologised over reports claiming millions of pounds raised by Band Aid in the 1980s was used to buy arms. In March, the BBC World Service’s ‘Assignment’ said cash raised by charities to help Ethiopia had been diverted by rebels. Now the BBC apologises – “unreservedly” – for giving that impression.

    [Watch BBC's short apology report here. Fuller coverage here]

    Laced with “ah, but…” provisos, this reluctant apology is at least something. Something seldom, if ever, afforded to politicians whom the BBC frequently misrepresents, purposely or not. Usually, in my experience, not “NOT”.

    Right now there are other complaints lodged at the BBC Trust’s complaints department concerning the coverage of the Iraq Inquiry by the world’s best known, widest distributed and ‘most trusted’ media outlet, which I will deal with in the next post.

    BBC WORLD SERVICE

    Much of the BBC’s content for domestic viewers can be heard again, late at night for  insomnolents, on BBC World Services, following on from Radio 4′s transmission at 1:00am GMT.  I often catch it, and I conclude that much of it is very interesting and worth hearing.

    But this is not just one-way traffic, Radio 4 to World Service. We Brits may catch their programmes on Radios 2/4/5 then they go worldwide on their network.  But we need to note that this dissemination of seemingly authoritative truths/untruths works both ways. As with the Band Aid story some of the BBC’s faulty reporting originates from their overseas branches. In that particular case from the BBC World Services, Africa.

    Excerpt, BBC website:

    ‘The original investigation by BBC World Service Africa editor Martin Plaut included claims that substantial amounts of aid from western governments and charities went into rebel-held areas of Tigray province in 1985 and was used to buy weapons.’

    In other words non-British citizens are hearing and probably absorbing as indisputable fact the ‘trusty’ BBC’s take on major issues ABOUT this country. I wonder if they hear as loudly BBC retractions?

    It’s more than a pity that other countries are hearing distortions from the beloved BBC. The radio station to which even the world’s long-term political prisoners have been known to tune into daily for the truth the whole truth and nothing but …

    It is actually potentially verging on criminal irresponsibility in its far-reaching consequences if the BBC knowingly misrepresents in order to further its own agenda. Especially given the growing reach of the service. In June 2004- their radio service “the world’s most trusted” had 146 million weekly listeners.

    Excerpt:

    ‘BBC World Service remains the world’s leading international radio broadcaster with a weekly global audience estimate of 146 million, according to new audience figures released today (Monday 21 June).

    This equates to at least 50 per cent more listeners than any comparable international radio broadcaster.

    Independent surveys in top markets also showed that the BBC World Service is the most trusted and objective international broadcaster when compared to its main radio competitors in each market.’

    And in May 2006 the BBC Press Office reported -

    ‘BBC World Service now attracts 163 million weekly radio listeners to its 33 language services – a record audience for the world’s best-known and most respected international broadcaster, according to figures announced today.

    The new weekly audience figure, compiled from independent surveys around the globe, is an increase of 14 million on last year’s figure of 149 million.

    The new figure equates to around 50 per cent more listeners than any comparable international broadcaster.

    This new figure smashes the previous BBC World Service record audience of 153 million in 2001.’

    200 MILLION REASONS A WEEK WHY THE BBC MUST BE ABOVE SPIN

    By June 2009 that audience number had risen 188 million, as reported here, again in a BBC press release.

    That’s 146/163/ 188 million listeners per week, not per year.

    Further to that it also reported that the ‘BBC’s Global News division attracts a record weekly global audience of 238 million people to its international news services including BBC World Service and the BBC World News television channel, according to independent surveys. Last year’s audience totalled 233 million.’

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    And - “Mr. Blair is one of the finest politicians to have had the privilege of serving the United Kingdom, and Britons are fortunate to have had him as their Prime Minister. Time will show that Mr. Blair’s approach to affairs in the Middle East were and remain correct. From a member of the Commonwealth, thank you, Mr. Blair, for your continued service to legitimate and lasting (and not convenient or politically expedient) freedom.”

    AND – “Tony Blair was the greatest Prime Minister since Winston Churchill and the only regret I have he didn’t get my vote as I live in Canada.”

    AND – “I am sick and tired of television and radio interviewers asking the same old questions over and over, regarding the decision to go to war in Iraq, presumably they hope Mr Blair will let slip some secret information which they would then use against him. History will show if the decision was the right one, (I believe it was) but people must accept that Tony Blair is a honourable man, and made his decision based on the known facts and not with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight.”



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    What happens in Britain when a Muslim, a self-confessed would-be killer, is sentenced?

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    So what happens in Britain when a judge jails a Muslim (failed) killer?

    ‘Allahu akbar’ (‘God is great’), ‘British go to hell’ and ‘Curse the judge’…

    Yesterday when a Muslim student was jailed for life (minimum 15 years) for the attempted murder of Labour MP and former cabinet minister Stephen Timms, there were four main characters/groups of characters.

    This character is part of the ugliest group. A group which has NO place in an open democracy

    The interested parties

    1. The convicted assailant; 2. the guilty party’s supporters; 3. the victim; 4. the judge & jury.

    In a land where the law rules, OK? – we don’t expect to get a dose of screaming heebie-jeebies when the court passes sentence on a convicted criminal. But, hey! This is Britain, 21st century. We’re MEANT to be terrified by numbskulls!

    1. From the guilty party, Rhoshonara Choudhry , the “life” condemned -

    a broad, self-satisfied smile…

    2. From the courtroom’s public gallery, a trade of Islamist abuse directed at the judge Mr Justice Cooke – and predictably at a female Muslim juror (Sun) -

    ‘Allahu akbar’ (‘God is great’), ‘British go to hell’ and ‘Curse the judge’…

    Meanwhile outside, a second group demonstrated threatened with chants and ‘placards’…

    3. The victim at the centre of all this, Stephen Timms the mild-mannered MP also gave his evidence in court. He said that when she struck him the first time, he did not immediately realise she had used a knife, and shouted out, “What was that for?”  He also told the court,  “That was the last thing that I expected to happen and there was absolutely no explanation to me. She didn’t say a word. It was a complete bolt out of the blue.”

    Following her sentence Mr Timms showed no bitterness towards his attacker. In fact he seems as concerned that “Rhoshonara’s action is a tragedy for HER life” as he is about the fact that this woman could so easily have ended his.

    “I didn’t feel as though I was about to die but the doctors have since made clear without the emergency operation which I went through at the Royal London my life would have been in danger. As far as I can tell there are no lasting ill effects, physical as you say or psychological, mental either. But of course I mean it is possible some of those effects might take longer to emerge even than six months. I think it’s very important that I continue to be accessible as an MP and I would regret changes that made me less accessible or more distant. It had occurred to me that Iraq, concern about military action in Iraq could have been the motive for that attack, and that was confirmed by the police officers when they came after the interview. I think what’s happened to Roshonara is a tragedy for her as well as for me and I do think we need to take steps to protect others from being lured down the same sort of road.  I think the sentence is appropriate given the offence that she committed.  I hope that she will over time feel regret at what happened,  perhaps remorse for what happened. There’s absolutely no sign of that at the moment. So I think the sentence is an appropriate one.”

    4. The judge, Mr Justice Cooke.

    The outbursts [from the public gallery] came as Roshonara Choudhry, 21, was sentenced to life imprisonment for stabbing former minister Stephen Timms. Choudhry smiled broadly as the judge told her: ‘You said you ruined the rest of your life. You said it was worth it. You said you wanted to be a martyr.’

    In court the judge pointedly contrasted Mr Timms’ Christian beliefs with the ‘distorted thinking’ of his attacker, who refused to recognise the court and appeared by videolink for her sentencing. (See Mr Timms’ video on the attack below.)

    The Judge further addressed this woman, this convicted criminal:

    ‘I understand that he (Mr Timms) brings to bear his own faith, which upholds very different values from those which appear to have driven this defendant.’

    ‘Those values are those upon which the common law of this country was founded and include respect and love for one’s neighbour, for the foreigner in the land, and for those who consider themselves enemies, all as part of one’s love of God.

    ‘These values were the basis of our system of law and justice and I trust that they will remain so as well as motivating those, like Mr Timms, who hold public office.’

    ‘There is no remorse on your part and you refuse to recognise the jurisdiction of this court over you in respect of your attempts to murder the person chosen by your fellow constituents in the East End of London, including Muslims, to represent them in the democratic institutions of government in this country.’
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    I would like to congratulate His Honour, Mr Justice Cooke. And believe me, I don’t often congratulate British judges. In his remarks to this woman he rightly pointed out, as coincidentally I have here before, that our system of law is based on OUR CHRISTIAN VALUES. NOT – NEVER have been and never will be – on opt-out Allah’s Law ‘values’ whereby some followers feel it is an Allah-given right to seek revenge for political decisions by murdering our democratically elected law-makers. Choudhry makes clear that the koran instructed her to do as she did. The judge made clear that in Britain that will not do. Good for him.

    Calling all British Secularists – religious or not: Wear a crucifix with PRIDE. It’s about the cross of democracy. See – http://keeptonyblairforpm.wordpress.com/2010/09/17/shocking-confession-of-an-agnostic-blair-supporter/

    Stabbed MP describes attack (1:41)

    “She was friendly… friendly look on her face. It appeared she was coming to shake my hand, which I thought was a little bit unusual for somebody in Islamic dress, a woman to be willing to shake a man’s hand let alone take the initiative to do so, but that was what she appeared to be doing and I think that is indeed what she was doing.  But as she came up and extended her hand to be shaken she also extended her other hand with a knife in it and pushed it into my stomach.  I don’t think I actually saw the knife.  I shouted something.  It was clear she was going to make another stab.  I tried to stop her doing that and didn’t succeed but then others came and restrained her and pulled her away. And it was only then that I was able just to take a moment just to see what had happened to me and I realised there was  quite a lot of blood and that I had been injured. I was extremely shocked. Nothing had ever happened like this to me before in my surgeries which I’ve been running for many years. And I think I was reasonably calm about it. I realised that I’d been injured. I wasn’t in great pain, perhaps surprisingly. Fortunately there was a very good first-aider on the spot.”

    More here at the Daily Mail on the would-be assassin who smiled when told she’d get life. Scroll to the end to see WHY she thought killing a member of parliament was the right thing to do.

    Unfortunately we couldn’t make her laugh out loud while fulfilling her medieval, vain  cause of martyrdom in the cause of her so-called  religion (of peace).

    Law and civilised behaviour are a powerful combination.

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    And - “Mr. Blair is one of the finest politicians to have had the privilege of serving the United Kingdom, and Britons are fortunate to have had him as their Prime Minister. Time will show that Mr. Blair’s approach to affairs in the Middle East were and remain correct. From a member of the Commonwealth, thank you, Mr. Blair, for your continued service to legitimate and lasting (and not convenient or politically expedient) freedom.”

    AND – “Tony Blair was the greatest Prime Minister since Winston Churchill and the only regret I have he didn’t get my vote as I live in Canada.”

    AND – “I am sick and tired of television and radio interviewers asking the same old questions over and over, regarding the decision to go to war in Iraq, presumably they hope Mr Blair will let slip some secret information which they would then use against him. History will show if the decision was the right one, (I believe it was) but people must accept that Tony Blair is an honourable man, and made his decision based on the known facts and not with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight.”



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    Home Secretary should level with us on the “arrested Aqap associate”

    November 4, 2010
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    The Home Secretary has been speaking today on terrorism. It was reported as below at The Guardian. (Do, please, note their typical ‘civil-liberty’ emphasis in their report’s subtitle.)

    Theresa May pledges ‘significant’ reform of counter-terrorism laws

    Home secretary targets better balance between liberty and security, and outlines changing nature of terrorist threat

    Theresa May at Royal United Services Institute in central London. Photograph: Leon Neal/AFP/Getty Images

    Guardian article continues:

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    The home secretary, Theresa May, has promised there will be “significant changes” in counter-terrorism laws, and detailed the changing nature of the al-Qaida threat to Britain.

    In her first major speech on counter-terrorism, May said she had thought “long and hard” as an opposition spokesman over the last 10 years about control orders and pre-charge detention and believed there could be a much better balance between liberty and security.

    The home secretary’s pledge to introduce significant reform of the anti-terror laws comes in the face of a cabinet stalemate over the future of control orders and detention without charge for terror suspects.

    In her speech to the Royal United Services Institute, the home secretary said the group behind last week’s air cargo bombs, al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula (Aqap), had been responsible for last year’s Detroit airlines plot and two attacks this year on British diplomats in Yemen.

    She revealed that the police and security services had been working to disrupt their agents in Britain, disclosing that an Aqap associate was arrested here this year.

    “He is alleged to have been planning a terrorist attack in this country. Threats such as these are likely to continue,” she said.

    May also cited the damage caused by online Aqap propaganda in the attack on the MP Stephen Timms.

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    Good, as far as it goes, but I for one am not satisfied.  Her mention of the ‘AQAP associate’ raises more questions than it answers.

    I realise it is a sharp learning curve, but do, please tell us a little more of the story, Ms May. For a start -

    1. Is the AQAP associate who was arrested “earlier this year” STILL in custody?
    2. WHEN exactly was he arrested? Since the coalition came to power, or while Labour was running the country? In other words before the May general election or afterwards?
    3. If he is still in custody, is he about to be charged?
    4. Or was he, by any chance, released by you and your other ‘liberal-minded’ thinkers before you realised what you had?

    The mainstream press’s coverage on this is no wiser than am I. For instance -

    No further clarification in this video segment of her speech here at the Telegraph

    The Mirror? No  mention of a name of the “associate” or the date he was arrested.

    The Independent’s extensive coverage of her speech provides no clue either on the Aqap associate. But at least it quotes her thus:

    May:  “I want an approach which is more targeted against extremist individuals, but that impacts much less on the good people of our communities. I want an approach which allows people to enjoy their liberty in safety and security.”

    If she pushes for the arrest of the evil-minded reprobate Anjem Choudary for his incitement to jihad and his rantings against this country, its democracy and its people, I will forgive her almost anything.

    But SKY News to the rescue.

    Sky says it knows the identity of the man arrested, AND that his arrest was in February this year. If so, it was NOT thanks to this government, but the previous one, or to be more exact the security forces accountable to the previous government, NOT, thank all that is not Lib Dem, this one. Even if his identity is not about to be released, for legal reasons, I conclude that it is being at the very least illiberal with the verity to infer that somehow YOUR government Ms May, had something to do with his detention.

    SKY report:

    ‘The suspect was arrested in the UK in February and faces several charges relating to terror plots.

    The alleged offences are said to have occurred over a four-year period.

    Although Sky knows who he is and the nature of the allegations against him, the law prevents anyone revealing his identity.

    He is currently going through the judicial process and is expected to come to trial next year.

    Mrs May announced his arrest days after the discovery of the explosives found on two planes in the UK and Dubai.’

    Perhaps the realisation that the last government and the police and security services were more right than wrong explained her “frightened rabbit” look when she appeared before the cameras on the day the cargo package was discovered at the East Midlands airport.

    Forgive me if I seem hyper-critical, but Ms May is also wrong to criticise the previous government’s Prevent programme for (she suggests) “talking to Muslim communities only about counter-terrorism.”

    The last government CAN be criticised regarding their attempts to stop radicalisation, true, but in quite the opposite way that Ms May suggests.

    Labour can, imho, be criticised for pumping far too much money, far too many resources and far too much misguided effort into far too many groups who were not necessarily as they seemed.

    So, please, Ms May, stop spinning it to us.

    I for one am perfectly willing to give you and your government room for manoeuver on this subject. All I ask is that you do NOT pretend that the last government was wrong on tackling terrorism, when it is clear as day that your party and particularly your coalition partners may even have been willing to throw us all to the jihadist dogs, such is was your wrong-headed pre-occupations and assumptions on “civil liberties”.

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    Video – “human rights” for prisoners, according to the axe-killer

    November 3, 2010
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    Ex-prisoner tells Andrew Neil (Daily Politics) why all UK prisoners should get the vote (03Nov10)

    This convicted murderer took the government to court over prisoners’ rights to vote. The previous (Labour) government had failed to follow the directive from the European Human Rights Court (handed down in 2004) that prisoners should be permitted to vote. Unfortunately this obnoxious creep of a man won his appeal and now the present government, against its better judgement, says it HAS to comply or cost the country millions in payouts to convicted prisoners.

    As a longtime pro-European this kind of irresponsibility AND lack of British sovereignty on such issues, imposed on Britain, is exactly what threatens my reviewing my usual supportive EU position.

    The below paragraph is as written at YouTube by the video uploader – ‘liarpoliticians’

    liarpoliticians | 03 November 2010

    “A convicted murderer who took the government to court, tells us why prisoners should get the right to vote. What about the human rights of the people the convicts beat up, rape, murder, steal from? The previous Labour government allowed this situation because they support criminals more than the decent honest hard working people.”

    Er, NO, Mr “liarpoliticians”.

    Precisely the opposite. Please take note of the below from the Daily Politics website (in red, so even you can’t miss it.) The previous government fought this directive for six years.

    The present LIBERAL Conservative government has capitulated.

    But thanks for uploading the video, anyway.

    More from the Daily Politics website:

    John Hirst, who was convicted of manslaughter in 1980 and took the Government to court on prisoners voting, defended his own actions in a lively interview with Andrew Neil.

    Mr Hirst was asked about his case as they debated why prisoners should get the vote, regardless of their crime.

    The Government is poised to give up its long-running legal tussle with the European Court of Human Rights and remove the blanket voting ban on British prisoners.

    The move comes after government lawyers advised that failure to comply with a 2004 European Court of Human Rights ruling could cost the taxpayer hundreds of millions of pounds in compensation.

    Also see (October 2009) – Convicted murderer loses vote bid

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    AND – “Tony Blair was the greatest Prime Minister since Winston Churchill and the only regret I have he didn’t get my vote as I live in Canada.”

    AND – “I am sick and tired of television and radio interviewers asking the same old questions over and over, regarding the decision to go to war in Iraq, presumably they hope Mr Blair will let slip some secret information which they would then use against him. History will show if the decision was the right one, (I believe it was) but people must accept that Tony Blair is an honourable man, and made his decision based on the known facts and not with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight.”



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    LIFE – “minimum 15 years” for attempted murder of British MP Stephen Timms

    November 3, 2010
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    Roshonara Choudhry has been sentenced to LIFE – to serve a minimum of 15 years.

    For the attempted murder of MP Stephen Timms this woman, who does not belong in a free democratic country, has been given a “life” sentence.

    I’m pleasantly surprised. I expected no more than ten years, reduced by half for “good behaviour”.

    British judges have had a habit of disappointing us in their sentence leniency. “Life” in Britain seldom means “for life”, except in exceptional, high-profile, usually child murder cases, and even these have to be kept under constant review.

    The day we work out how we can deport these creatures born in Britain or not – those who attempt murder or incite it on free British citizens -  I’ll cheer even louder for the courts AND for the lawmaking politicians who enforce it by law.

    Clear ‘em out – get ‘em out.  Britain is NOT for her or for them.  Nor should our money be available to keep them inside our prisons, where they are likely to hone their jihadist skills even more.

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    “The court heard that Choudhry smiled and pretended she was going to shake hands with her local MP Stephen Timms before plunging the knife twice into his stomach at his constituency surgery in east London on 14 May 2010. She was disarmed by the politician’s assistant and held by a security guard, and when arrested confessed to police that the stabbing was “punishment” and “to get revenge for the people of Iraq”, the Old Bailey heard. A list of other politicians was found in her possession and she had researched voting records on Iraq.

    A police source and those close to Roshonara Choudhry told the Guardian she was radicalised after watching internet sermons given by Anwar al-Awlaki, an Islamist cleric, now in Yemen, who the US suspects was the mastermind of several terrorist plots. Top of those is the attempt uncovered on Friday to send bombs on cargo travelling in planes, which sparked a worldwide terrorist alert.”

    And Michael White, one of the few balanced writers at The Guardian has this on the case and other influences.

    “What has this to do with unhappy Choudhry being tried in absentia at the Old Bailey? Probably not much; the political is usually personal in crucial ways, especially the weird and violent stuff. She won’t get martyrdom, if that was what she wanted. But she’ll have to go to jail. A waste of her young life – and our money.”

    Oh, by the way – I shouldn’t be giving the anti-free speech Guardian ANY space here, since they now moderate ALL my comments.  In other words I don’t get published there at all now.  They can’t cope with those of us who believe in democracy and who DON’T accept Muslim victimisation as a reason for attacking OUR people, MPs or ordinary citizens.

    The Guardian, be warned, is NOT for free thinkers.

    My previous post on this two-day trial:  Muslim woman guilty of stabbing Labour MP – “I was trying to kill him because he wanted to invade Iraq”

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    AND – “Tony Blair was the greatest Prime Minister since Winston Churchill and the only regret I have he didn’t get my vote as I live in Canada.”

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    Muslim woman GUILTY of stabbing Labour MP: “I was trying to kill him because he wanted to invade Iraq”

    November 3, 2010
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    “JUSTICE” … JIHADIST-BRITISH MUSLIM STYLE?

    Roshonara Choudhry: “I was not going to stop until someone made me. I wanted to kill him… I was going to get revenge for the people of Iraq.”

    The Telegraph’s report has the POLICE CCTV pictures below of the would-be murderer of Stephen Timms, Labour MP and former Treasury minister in the previous government.

    These pictures, used in the court case which convicted her yesterday of attempted murder, were of the moments before the MP was stabbed twice by a “smiling” (Mr Timms’ description) Roshonara Choudhry, a 21-year-old student.

    She had the audacity, and got away with it, to refuse to appear in court in her own trial and ordered her own counsel NOT to offer any evidence on her behalf nor to ask for clemency. Courageous little martyr for Allah, isn’t she just? What a pity our civilised legal system won’t allow her hopes to come to fruition.

    Roshonara Choudhry guilty of attempted murder. Choudhry stabbed MP Stephen Timms twice in the stomach during a constituency surgery in Beckton, East London in May. Choudhry's hand concealed in bag

    Choudhry's right hand can now be seen

    Roshonara Choudhry, bottom left of photo - knife can be seen

    Roshonara Choudhry is restrained after stabbing the MP twice in the stomach

    THANK GOODNESS FOR CCTV

    Liberal minds and civil righters have often bemoaned the use of cctv cameras, especially where they are targeted in Muslim areas. But if the much-criticised CCTV had not been in place at the MP’s office, she would only have been a ‘suspect’.

    Given the vagaries of liberal English law, she would have been liable to get off scot-free.

    This BBC News video has a round-up of her trial over the last couple of days, including yesterday when the jury took only 14 minutes to find her guilty.

    Here’s hoping the judge will only take a few minutes to jail her for life, later today.  Here’s hoping, but no breath-holding!

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    AND – “Tony Blair was the greatest Prime Minister since Winston Churchill and the only regret I have he didn’t get my vote as I live in Canada.”

    AND – “I am sick and tired of television and radio interviewers asking the same old questions over and over, regarding the decision to go to war in Iraq, presumably they hope Mr Blair will let slip some secret information which they would then use against him. History will show if the decision was the right one, (I believe it was) but people must accept that Tony Blair is an honourable man, and made his decision based on the known facts and not with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight.”



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