Winston Churchill on “Mohammedanism”, 110 Years Ago

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    22nd December, 2008

    “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!”

    The River War, first edition, Vol. II by Winston Churchill

    From The WMD Library

    How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its *votaries!The River War, first edition, Vol. II by Winston Churchill

    This book is very rare and hard to find. There are later editions that do not contain all of the quotes used on our site. None of the presently available online versions are as complete as the original first editions. More information can be found on Wikipedia – The River War


    Pages:pages 248 50
    Extract: [Ed: MY bolding]

    How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
    Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property (either as a child, a wife, or a concubine) must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.  No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science (the science against which it had vainly struggled) the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”

    And Europe may yet fall, Mr Churchill, as you turn in your grave.

    You may disagree with this 19th century political thought, that of one of Britain’s all-time great Prime Ministers, in any comparison to today’s Islam.  I am as yet to be persuaded, one way or the other. But these are still interesting observations by Churchill. They could even have been written by a more current political leader, were there a Churchillian amongst them.

    [* Meaning of “votary” sworn adherent, devotee, devoted admirer, devout or zealous worshipper, a staunch believer or advocate] (Go back to where you were)

    Another insightful quote from Mr Churchill‘s book.

    “Every woman must belong to some man”

    This quaint idea evidently still applies in many parts of the Muslim world. Otherwise why would a young Egyptian woman agree with her father that she’d love to go to Iraq? IRAQ! That place the westerners “destroyed”!  But this modern day Egyptian woman would willingly give herself body and soul to the man who threw his shoes at President Bush.


    What was this guy thinking anyway? If he didn’t like the shoes, surely he could have just taken them back to the shop and not thrown them at the Devil Incarnate, the man whose system presumably invented the blasted useless things?

    Correction – that was somebody in Egypt, 5000 years ago.

    Oh I am SO culturally insensitive, don’t you think? Answers please on a postcard of Winston Churchill to the shoe-thrower, Muntadar al-Zeidi, a correspondent for Iraqi-owned Al-Baghdadia television based in Egypt.

    [Winston Churchill was 25 years old when he wrote “The River War”.]

    Just as well he wasn’t a 21st century politician. He’d have been drummed out of politics by the PC brigade before he could say – “What Nazis?”

    But of course Churchill did NOT have to fight the enemy within – the Fourth Estateand their infiltration of lies and distortions in the minds of the British people. It’s hard to withstand attack from the enemy without, whilst being clobbered relentlessly from within.


    P.S. Just found this Churchillian quotation, and had to add it.

    Churchill’s response to King Ibn Saud’s demand that he not drink or smokeChurchill by Himself: The Definitive Collection of Quotations by Richard Langworth

    Publisher:PublicAffairs, October 27, 2008
    ISBN:1586486381
    Pages:353
    Extract:King Ibn SaudI was the host and I said that if it was his religion that made him say such things, my religion prescribed as an absolute sacred ritual smoking cigars and drinking alcohol before, after and if need be during, all meals and the intervals between them. Complete surrender. 1945, 17 February, Lake Fayyum, Egypt (Gilbert, Life, 825)
    Abdul Aziz ibn Saud (1876-1953). When told that the King could not allow drinking or smoking in his presence, WSC replied thusly. More seriously, Churchill asked the King’s assistance, “to promote a definite and lasting settlement between the jews and Arabs” in Palestine, through a Middle East Federation headed by Ibn Saud, in which Jewish Palestine would be an integral independent part.
    _____
    No smoking AND a Middle East peace settlement? Plus ca change.




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    7 Responses to “Winston Churchill on “Mohammedanism”, 110 Years Ago”

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    5. Morton Nadler Says:

      The Gutenberg edition of The River War does not have the passage about “Mohammedanism” above. Sorry.

      • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

        Mr Nadler,

        Doesn’t it? I must check. If it doesn’t, though the passage DOES exist, what is your point? As an anti-Zionist Jew, according to your web link, you must have a point. Please enlighten us.

        P.S. I began to check, here at http://www.gutenberg.org/files/4943/4943-h/4943-h.htm

        I don’t have the time nor inclination to search for its inclusion or not. I don’t understand the point of such a search. Its omission? Many things are omitted online for many reasons. PC reasons for one.

      • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

        This is the Wikipedia entry –
        Content The quote is there. I found his last paragraph on the British and war most interesting, with some relevance to today.

        ‘In vivid style the book describes the background to the war, the relationship of the Upper Nile to Egypt, the murder of General Charles George Gordon in the siege at Khartoum, the political reaction in England, and Kitchener’s elaborate preparations for the war. While in the Sudan Churchill participated in the Battle of Omdurman. Churchill comments at length on the mechanization of war with use of the telegraph, railroad, and a new generation of weaponry.
        [edit] 1899 unabridged, two-volume edition

        The unabridged version contains many illustrations with drawings, photogravures, and colored maps. It also contains vivid narratives of personal adventures of the author, his views on British expansionism, passages of deep reflection about the requirements of a civilized government, criticism of military and political leaders and religion.[11] The first edition was reviewed by The Times, which described it as containing material sufficient for two good books and one bad one, with the bad one being the more interesting.[12]

        About Mohammedanism he wrote:
        “ How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.[13] ”

        About the British attitude to war:
        “ ..there are many people in England, and perhaps elsewhere, who seem to be unable to contemplate military operations for clear political objects, unless they can cajole themselves into the belief that their enemy are utterly and hopelessly vile. To this end the Dervishes, from the Mahdi and the Khalifa downwards, have been loaded with every variety of abuse and charged with all conceivable crimes. This may be very comforting to philanthropic persons at home; but when an army in the field becomes imbued with the idea that that the enemy are vermin who cumber the earth, instances of barbarity may easily be the outcome. This unmeasured condemnation is moreover as unjust as it is dangerous and unnecessary… We are told that the British and Egyptian armies entered Omdurman to free the people from the Khalifa’s yoke. Never were rescuers more unwelcome.’

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