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21st January, 2009
About Geert Wilders. Sign the petition IN DEFENCE OF GEERT WILDERS (and against his persecution/prosecution). Now almost 20,000 signatories, 24 Jan
- Audio of a radio interview prior to Fitna movie release. He says the Koran is “evil”… inspires “terrible acts”
- Radio Netherlands report on Wilders charges & history AND SPECIAL: Links on Wilders, his stance & history
List of sites/blogs which have taken a similar stand to my site on this seriously deteriorating situation for freedom in the west. Please leave a message if you wish to be added, or even removed
- You can also watch Geert Wilders’ video here at Google (while it’s still available). Compare THIS (mostly factual) information, with only some limited opinion, with the rantings of anti-western fundamentalist Islamicists (my differentiation of terms) promoted by such as Lauren Booth, the proud Gazan passport-holder. WE, who speak out against terror attacks by Islamicist terrorists are abused as ‘the REAL criminals’. But for pointing out the obvious – that Islamicist terrorists who in their own words link themselves to Islam are the REAL and PROVEN threat to the world, Wilders is about to be prosecuted.
- Incomplete list of recent terror attacks (by Al Qaeda)
WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE between radical Islamicists screaming abuse of The West and Wilders’ criticism? The difference is that Islam and all those who purport to speak in its name are now UNIQUELY protected by governments and laws. By slow, steady brainwashing of the innocent such fundamentalists are permitted to undermine our western societies. Meanwhile those of us who try to inform the world of this are vilified. And NOW prosecuted. An INCREDIBLE state of affairs!
SHAME, SHAME, SHAME ON US – ‘FREE’ WESTERN PEOPLES – FOR ACCEPTING THIS LOSS OF OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH
TODAY SUCH FREEDOMS ONLY BELONG TO THOSE WHO ABUSE THEM
THIS, MY FRIENDS, IS OUTRAGEOUS
BBC Report TODAY
Page last updated at 13:58 GMT, Wednesday, 21 January 2009
Dutch court has ordered prosecutors to put a right-wing politician on trial for making anti-Islamic statements.
Freedom Party leader Geert Wilders made a controversial film last year equating Islam with violence and has likened the Koran to Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf.
“In a democratic system, hate speech is considered so serious that it is in the general interest to… draw a clear line,” the court in Amsterdam said.
Mr Wilders said the judgement was an “attack on the freedom of expression”.
“Participation in the public debate has become a dangerous activity. If you give your opinion, you risk being prosecuted,” he said.
Not only he, but all Dutch citizens opposed to the “Islamisation” of their country would be on trial, Mr Wilders warned.
“Who will stand up for our culture if I am silenced?” he added.
The three judges said that they had weighed Mr Wilders’s “one-sided generalisations” against his right to free speech, and ruled that he had gone beyond the normal leeway granted to politicians.
This is a happy day for all followers of Islam who do not want to be tossed on the garbage dump of Nazism
Gerard Spong, lawyer
“The Amsterdam appeals court has ordered the prosecution of member of parliament Geert Wilders for inciting hatred and discrimination, based on comments by him in various media on Muslims and their beliefs,” the court said in a statement.
“The court also considers appropriate criminal prosecution for insulting Muslim worshippers because of comparisons between Islam and Nazism made by Wilders,” it added.
The court’s ruling reverses a decision last year by the public prosecutor’s office, which said Mr Wilders’s comments had been made outside parliament as a contribution to the debate on Islam in Dutch society and that no criminal offence had been committed.
Prosecutors said on Wednesday that they could not appeal against the judgement and would open an investigation immediately.
Gerard Spong, a prominent lawyer who pushed for Mr Wilders’s prosecution, welcomed the court’s decision.
“This is a happy day for all followers of Islam who do not want to be tossed on the garbage dump of Nazism,” he told reporters.
In March 2008, Mr Winders posted a film about the Koran on the internet, prompting angry protests across the Muslim World.
Opponents say Mr Wilders has been fuelling hate against Muslims
The opening scenes of Fitna – a Koranic term sometimes translated as “strife” – show a copy of the holy book followed by footage of the bomb attacks on the US in 11 September 2001, London in July 2005 and Madrid in March 2004.
Pictures appearing to show Muslim demonstrators holding up placards saying “God bless Hitler” and “Freedom go to hell” also feature.
The film ends with the statement: “Stop Islamisation. Defend our freedom.”
Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende said at the time that the film wrongly equated Islam with violence and served “no purpose other than to offend”.
A year earlier, Mr Wilders described the Koran as a “fascist book” and called for it to be banned in “the same way we ban Mein Kampf”, in a letter published in the De Volkskrant newspaper.
Mr Wilders has had police protection since Dutch director Theo Van Gogh was killed by a radical Islamist in 2004.
Correspondents say his Freedom Party (PVV), which has nine MPs in the lower house of parliament, has built its popularity largely by tapping into the fear and resentment of Muslim immigrants.
END OR BEGINNING?
Whether it’s the End for freedom of speech/thought/inherited culture in the west if Wilders is convicted or the End of fundamentalist rantings if he is found innocent, I have no idea. On that court judgement will depend what sort of “Beginning” we are in. The start of more such cases in our courts OR the start of a fightback from native western populaces and law-abiding immigrants? Again – I have NO idea.
But I believe it IS that important.
“Democracy is a good idea, but it needs to come with a big caveat that if you’re not into democracy you’re not welcome to participate. Free markets are a good idea, but they need to come with a big caveat saying that if you’re going to fiddle them you’re not welcome to participate.
Western values have the same problem as the above. Our belief in democracy is so radical that we allow those who don’t believe in democracy to vote. Our belief in being inclusive is so radical that we want to include those who don’t believe in being inclusive. Our belief in free speech is so radical that we want to give free speech to those who want to use it to fight it. Our belief in human rights is so radical that we want to give a suit of rights to people who don’t want to permit others such rights.
This radical application of Western values is potentially self-destructive. It is analogous to having the potential to democratically elect a dictator.”
I couldn’t have put it better myself.
NOW let’s see what the world’s favourite freedom-loving President is made of. Do you think he’ll give a damn? Nor me.
You may not agree with ALL the political stances of ALL the below, but that is democracy and freedom for you. In this damning of the attempt to silence Wilders, we are all agreed.
- International Free Press Society supports Wilders
- Wall Street Journal – Silencing Islam’s Critics
- The Brussels Journal
- Gates of Vienna
- Creeping Sharia
- Melanie Phillips
- Diana West
- Lock & Load
- European Alliance for Rational Thought
- View From The Right Blog – with Dutch Court Order & Freedom Party’s Response
- Political ByLine
- The Jawa Report
- Tundra Tabloid – PETITION
- Sign Petition here (presently over 12,000 signatories)
- Pat Dollard
- NeoCon Express
- Our Cognitive Surplus
- Bill Warner: Wilders – Man of the Year
- Beer n Sandwiches
- USA Partisan
- Yid With Lid: Jordan extradition request /OIC pressure
- Old Atlantic Lighthouse describes this incitement charge as “junk science”
- Crunchy Con on Dhimmi Dutch
- Muse Free – USA best place for free speech
- The International Free Press
- English Rose
- Dark Skies blog
- Defend Geert Wilders
- PowerLine Blog
- City Journal
- ACT for America
- Weasel Zippers interview with Geert WIlders
- Exposing Liberal Lies
- “Freedom in Jeopardy”
- The Blog of Record
- Freedom Bloggers
- Doc’s Talk
- The Provocateur
- LibraBunda Blog
- Faith Freedom– with a reminder that Wilders is also being charged in Jordan in absentia
This site Fausta’s Blog has the following links to the story:
- Gateway Pundit Right Views Samizdata Spanish Pundit Irish Spy Islam in Action Sweetness and Light
- Hot Air Harry’s Place Israpundit Tel-Chai Nation Pursuing Holiness Laigle’s Forum Aristotle the Geek
- A fistful of Euros Prairie Pundit Q and O Memeorandum Michelle Malkin Bivouac-ID Matthew Yglesias
- Little Green Footballs Pirate’s Cove Stop the ACLU EU Referendum Atlas Shrugs
I’ll let you know when it appears on a Guardian Cif page. So far it’s only here, at a non-comment page.
- This outstanding site, Jihad Watch where the arguments are put fully but succinctly. The site owner, Robert Spencer, reminds us of the UN meeting in November 2008, and a draft resolution aimed at protecting Islam. Excerpt follows:
As a prelude to Durban II, a Second Preparatory Session of the 20-state Preparatory Committee — of which Libya has been elected chair with Cuba, Pakistan and Iran as vice-chairs — was held in Geneva from 6 to 17 October 2008. The resulting “Draft Outcome Document for the Durban Review Conference 2009” is now available on the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC) website at LINK 1.”It is clear from the draft document, as well as from reports emanating from the subsequent 63rd UN General Assembly meeting held in Geneva during the first week of November, that a central focus of Durban II will be “Islamophobia”, which is being presented as “a new form of racism”.
Muslims, the draft declaration asserts, are at dire risk of a racial “holocaust” due to “a new form of racism” — “Islamophobia” — which is incited through “defamation of Islam”.
What race is Islam again?
The draft declaration recommends that local, national and international laws and human rights covenants be reviewed and amended as necessary so that “defamation of Islam” is made a criminal offence, losing the protection it has long enjoyed under the “pretext” of “freedom of expression, counter terrorism or national security”. It recommends that legal instruments be established to punish offenders — that is, those who “defame” Islam by associating it with violence, human rights abuses or terrorism….
I trust, then, that among the first to be prosecuted for “defaming Islam” will be the likes of al-Zawahri, Omar Bakri, Anjem Chaudry, Abu Bakar Bashir, et al.
Also from Jihad Watch, 23rd January, 09 – Muslims walk into Jewish-owned shops and say “I’m going to kill you.”
“Threats to Jews in New York, threats to Jews in London, threats to Jews all over. And yet the UN is focused on “Islamophobia,” and Islamic advocacy groups in the U.S. have to manufacture hate crimes to shore up their victim status. When will this madness end? Is the West even still able to produce a political leader who will stand up to this? The free world needs to take a stand and make it clear to Muslims in the West that this is not tolerable. But I am not holding my breath.”
Geert Wilders Defends Anti-Islamic Film Fitna – CBN.com
If you’d like to be added to the list of those showing this VERY important development, please contact me. I will not need to publish any comment you send me if you do not wish it to be published. I’ll just add your website or blog link. Even if we do not hold all politic views in common – and who does? – we need to know WHO exactly is on the side of freedom.
- Douglas Murray’s report of an interview with Geert Wilders
- Douglas Murray said Studying the Koran made him an atheist (Similar thing happened to me as a student.) Our faith couldn’t have been as strong as Mr Blair’s.
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