Hizb ut-Tahrir recruits Midlands youth to “liberate” British soldiers (permanently) in Afghanistan

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    7th December, 2009

    Hizb ut-Tahrir (Party of “Liberation”) recruits Midlands youth to “liberate” British soldiers (permanently) in Afghanistan

    Birmingham Brothers Fighting for Taliban

    (Original source here, Sunday Mercury.)

    I originally spotted this article linked from here. It might be educational to spend a few moments reading this before you get to the main article here about recruiting gullible, and then brainwashed British youth for Jihad. This is a thread from the Muslim Public Affairs Committee. Note the signature at the end of the commenter who thinks HuT cannot be blamed for British Afghanistan/Taliban joiners. Is there ANY other religious grouping in Britain which is clearly so AGAINST another?

    ‘NO’, is the answer you were searching for. Even the hateful BNP is against other races, not religions (purportedly).  Islam seems, from all the evidence, to be a political/religious organisation, not purely a religious live-and-let-live, love-thy-neighbour setup. If you have ever been persuaded to conclude otherwise you need to do some research. None of this is to say that ALL Muslims think in this way. Far from it.

    But it is to say that ALL those willing to die and kill for a (political) religion in this world today are, or purport to be, Muslim. (21 of 22 conflicts in world are Muslim. See here.)

    ABOUT THE MPACUK (United Kingdom) [My bolding]

    ‘The Muslim Public Affairs Committee began with a handful of individuals on an e-group back in the year 2000 when the Palestinian Intifada began and has grown into a movement with branches across the country and Britain’s biggest Muslim website.

    MPACUK is driven by dedicated volunteers with an elected and accountable leadership. It is a not-for-profit organisation dependent upon donations from the public.


    Our aim is to empower Muslims to fulfil our Islamic duty to strive for justice.

    Muslims will strive for freedom for the Ummah, enabling a revival of Islamic civilisation.

    Muslim countries will be free from oppressive regimes, occupation and outside interference, and the rights of all citizens will be safeguarded.

    Muslim minorities will be able to live as equal and valued citizens, free to practice their faith and free from discrimination or demonisation.

    A secure Muslim Ummah will fulfil its Islamic responsibilities toward Allah’s creation, supporting the universal rights of humanity.

    MPACUK are committed to building a movement that will make this vision a reality insh’Allah.


    MPACUK’s work is defined by 4 core principles:

    Reviving the fard (obligation) of Jihad

    Jihad means the struggle for justice in the way of Allah, and MPACUK aims to empower Muslims to fulfil this Islamic obligation through intelligent political action to protect the Ummah. We believe that pro-active engagement in mainstream media and politics, as active citizens, is the most effective solution to bring about an ethical foreign policy, defend civil liberties and combat Islamophobia.

    Anti-Zionism …’  (read more here)

    Sunday Mercury Article follows:

    THE former Midland recruiting chief of radical Islamic group Hizb ut-Tahrir has revealed how he recruited hundreds of Midland students – including six who went on to fight for the Taliban.

    The 29-year-old says he signed up Muslims attending Aston University, University of Birmingham and the University of Central England.

    He also claimed half a dozen Hizb ut-Tahrir (HuT) recruits went to fight as Taliban soldiers against UK troops in Afghanistan, warning that others could still join terror groups.

    Earlier this year, the Sunday Mercury reported that British troops had discovered an Aston Villa tattoo on the body of a dead Taliban fighter in the battlefields of Hellmand province.

    UK soldiers also said they heard Brummie accents amongst the enemy, adding to fears that brainwashed Birmingham Muslims are fighting against our boys.

    And in an exclusive interview the former HuT recruitment chief, who now opposes the extremist party, said his former recruits had become Jihadists.

    “I remember one group of members from Birmingham, including two brothers from Perry Barr, who went to fight in Afghanistan,’’ he recalled.

    “They were recruited by HuT and given their extremist ideology.

    ‘‘They believed it was their religious duty to fight against British soldiers invading Muslim lands. No one could stop them, they wanted to take part in Jihad.’’

    He added: “People radicalised by HuT go on to join Jihadi organisations, I have seen it happen. There is a strong ideological connection with terror groups.

    “There will still be individuals who start in HuT and go over to fight in Afghanistan and become terrorists.

    ‘‘HuT strongly supports the insurgency and the Taliban’s ideology.”

    The former recruitment boss claims to have been beaten up, threatened and intimidated by members of HuT since leaving the group – which supports the introduction of harsh Shariah law in Britain and previously called for a holy war against Jews in Israel.

    Hizb ut-Tahrir, which translates as ‘party of liberation’, also believe that British Muslims must fight integration in society and aims to create a global Islamic superstate.

    The group has been banned in Germany for its anti-semitic views, and the Conservatives have promised to outlaw the party if elected next year.

    Khalid Mahmood, Muslim Labour MP for Perry Barr, said: “These boys going over to fight in Afghanistan is no real surprise to me. Groups like HuT have been operating like this for quite some time, recruiting people into the nexus of terrorism.

    “We need greater controls on groups like HuT. Over the past decade it has changed its website and PR and the government hasn’t banned it but we need to keep a very close eye on the group.

    “Because we respect human rights and civil liberties, HuT has been allowed to continue but these people do not respect those things. They are turning our youngsters into killers, either at home or overseas.

    ‘‘They need to be held accountable.”

    Hizb ut-Tahrir held a summer conference in Birmingham, with pictures on its official website showing primary schoolchildren taking the microphone to speak to a crowd of hundreds.

    Our source said that he joined HuT at the age of just 15.

    “I had college lecturers who came to my school and addressed our class, they spoke about the HuT ideology,” he said.

    “They made you feel like an outsider in Britain and told you that you were part of a global brotherhood of Muslims who could rule themselves according to the Quran.

    ‘‘It was a very attractive message for young people like me who hadn’t seen a lot of life and were vulnerable to indoctrination.

    “The first roadshow I attended was in Birmingham in the mid-90s. They picked at any issue they could find to separate Muslims from British society.

    “These weren’t just some guys, they were doctors, lawyers, respected people who you could look up to.”

    As he progressed through the ranks of HuT, the future head of recruitment for Midlands universities says he was taught how to indoctrinate youngsters by destroying their normal values and promoting Islamic extremist views.

    “Once that has been done you start to talk about homosexuality being unacceptable, imposing Shariah law, fighting for Islamic freedom in Kashmir and destroying Israel,” he said.

    “I used to give Friday sermons at universities in Birmingham and recruit new members from there. The whole point was that individuals would influence other individuals and the whole thing would snowball.

    “While I was looking after the Midland universities we brought in hundreds of members. They went out into society to become doctors, accountants, teachers and to pass on the HuT ideology where they could.”

    But a spokesman for HuT – whose media relations are managed by Imran Waheed, a former NHS psychiatrist at Birmingham’s Queen Elizabeth Hospital – dismissed allegations of violence and extremism as “nonsense”.

    “It is well-known that Hizb ut-Tahrir is a political movement which only utilises intellectual and political means in its work,” he said.

    “Hizb ut-Tahrir does not and has never engaged in violence or intimidation and is not linked to any other group.”

    Fears over Islamic students becoming involved in terror attacks were raised in April when ten Pakistani students accused of being members of Al Qaeda were arrested in Manchester and Liverpool, accused of plotting an Easter bombing campaign.

    Charges against the group were dropped, though eight were later deported as a threat to national security.

    HuT has effectively been banned from speaking at UK universities by the National Union of Students’ “no platform” policy, which means it cannot take part in official debates.

    But in May 2008 John Holmwood, a professor from Birmingham University’s sociology department, shared a stage with a Hizb ut-Tahrir member in a secularism debate that was advertised to students as a HuT event.

    Researcher Hannah Stuart, from think tank The Centre for Social Cohesion, said: “In its own words, HuT tells its members to ‘keep your ideology in your heart’.

    “They are just about avoiding being banned as an extremist group but events like the one in 2008 give them legitimacy. They need to be stopped.”

    A spokesman for the University of Birmingham said that the threat of extremism was taken “very seriously” and that any incidents were dealt with at senior levels within the university.

    The Home Office maintains a list of “proscribed” extremist groups which are banned in the UK but HuT is not among those organisations.

    A spokeswoman said: “Decisions on proscription must be based on evidence that a group is concerned in terrorism.

    ‘‘Hizb ut-Tahrir is an organisation of concern and is kept under continuous review.”

    Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said this week that the Conservatives could outlaw organisations like HuT – and that extremist groups would not be able to hide behind “a veil of moderation”.

    Ends article. Back to top.

    Ed: The constituency from which two brothers were recruited into the Taliban, is that of Khalid Mahmood. Mahmood was a parliamentary private secretary, and one of those who wrote the infamous and disgusting letter to Tony Blair urging him to quit as party leader (and the country’s PRIME MINISTER!!! … the bloody gall of him/them!)  in September, 2006. Scroll down here – near to the end to read.


    Since the article fails to remind us you need to understand that proscribing Hizb ut-Tahrir is NOT that easy in Britain. No-one knows this better than Tony Blair who tried to ban it afer the 7/7/2005 bombings in London, and was advised against by various interested pressure groups, and the Police and legal sources, including those who understand the Human Rights Courts in the EU. For an earlier view of the October 2009 Tory call to ban HuT and an explanation of why Blair failed, and the Tories too will fail,  if they even TRY, read this.

    BBC report: Shami Chakrabarti espouses forth – we’re all ears I’m sure – a month after 7/7 when Blair talks of banning Hizb ut-Tahrir. Excerpt follows below:

    SHAME of Chakrabarti says this:

    “He [Tony Blair] rightly says that he’s been a great one for tough talk and tougher legislation, and yet his approach hasn’t changed at all. He seems to have learned nothing from recent events.

    It seems he no longer has much truck for fundamental human rights at all and he’s talking quite actively about deporting people to face torture around the world – that is completely unacceptable and plays into the hands of terrorists.

    Also the idea of criminalising those who condone, glorify or justify terrorism anywhere in the world is now on his shopping list – deeply dangerous, deeply counterproductive.

    We don’t win by mimicking the profound authoritarianism of those who are plotting against this country. I think it is very worrying that the Prime Minster has jeopardised our national unity today both in terms of community relations and in terms of consensus politics.”

    And who voted HER in to tell us how we “win”???

    She is a great one for talking UTTER ROT!

    The comment of this dreadful and destructive woman was in reaction to THIS (below) re Blair’s proposals after the terror bombing of our tubes and a bus in 2005 in which over 50 were killed.  (Just to clarify for you, in case you thought it was about about wearing a t-shirt with ‘B*****cks to Blair’ on it!)

    Politicians, police, campaigners and community leaders give their responses to Tony Blair’s plans to deport foreign nationals who encourage terrorism and ban the Islamic organisations Hizb ut Tahrir and Al-Muhajiroun.

    [Ed: This deeply dangerous and deeply counter-productive woman too should be deported, imho! SHE is a danger to British and western civilisation, and the sooner we realise it, the better.

    And here Human Rights Watch calls for the Afghan government to keep its promises to Afghan women. Perhaps Chakrabarti could shift herself and her distorted views of freedom and rights to Afghanistan and help them. They are NOT living in a free, tolerant country as we are. YET.]

    As people and politicians in the Crimea rage against HuT and other “extremist” groups we in the west are in denial

    The head of the Crimean Interior Ministry, Gennadiy Moskal, has drafted new legislation to ban extremist groups in Ukraine (Ukrayinska Pravda, October 27). These groups include HuT who are already banned elsewhere in the region and are suspected of planning to spread into Europe through the Ukrainian back door. (Ed: HuT is heavily criticised here.)


    “Unfortunately in Ukraine we are faced with the problem that neither Hizb-ut-Tahrir al Islami (Islamic Liberation Party), al-Takfir wa al-Hijrah (Excommunication and Exile) and other terrorist, fundamentalist and extremist groups are not banned,” Moskal said (Ukrayinska Pravda, October 27). Hizb-ut-Tahrir is banned in many countries.

    In the Crimea there are upwards of 100 members of Islamic fundamentalist groups who have arrived as political refugees from countries where they are outlawed.

    Moskal pointed to how blasé the authorities had been in registering the Vozrozhdeniye newspaper which propagates support for an Islamic Caliphate and the ideas of Islamic fundamentalists. The SBU has blocked two websites –www.vozrojdenie.crimea.ua and http://www.qirim-vilayeti.org– run by Hizb-ut-Tahrir.

    On July 19, Hizb-ut-Tahrir and its NGO, the Crimean Muslim Community Davet, held the Fifth Islamic conference in Simferopol entitled “From capitalist oppression and injustice to the light of the caliphate” (www.maidanua.org, July 24). 800 people took part in the conference (www.poluostrov.net, July 24).


    Hizb ut-Tahrir in Britain

    Something must have really got to me this year!


    Gaddafi says on Swiss minarets decision:  It is “inviting Al Qaeda attacks” AND “we won’t build churches.” (WOW we non-Muslims will surely miss THAT freedom!)

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    4 Responses to “Hizb ut-Tahrir recruits Midlands youth to “liberate” British soldiers (permanently) in Afghanistan”

    1. margaret walters Says:

      These British persons who fight against British troops should be tried for treason if found alive.

      • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

        Margaret – ah, but what of their “human” rights!?!

        Anyway, the only Brit which (some in) this country want to try for “treason” (and anything else they hope to make stick), is the one with the guts to step up to the plate.

    2. margaret walters Says:

      soldiers apparently have human rights now in UK what about their rights in not being killed by those who they are dying to protect

      • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

        Margaret, you evidently misunderstand. These days only inhumans have human rights when it comes to foreign policy or forays. Soldiers and politicians don’t count, even if many consider THEM “inhuman”.

        Logical? You bet it ain’t!

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