Israelis- KEEP OUT of Britain! Only campaigning ANTI-Israelis allowed!

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    6th January, 2010

    ‘WAR CRIMINALS’ BANNED from BRITAIN

    As Anjem Choudary preaches hate in this the land of his birth and the ‘heroic’ GGGGG (Gaza’s Garrulous Gorgeous George Galloway) is at the centre of scuffles in Egypt resulting in death and injuries, our useless government seems powerless to do anything about this shameful situation.

    Excerpt:

    ‘An Israeli military delegation has canceled an official visit to Britain, officials said yesterday, the latest in a string of politicians and army officials to put off travel to the United Kingdom because of fears of war crimes prosecution.

    Israel complained that the practice, spearheaded by pro-Palestinian activists, is harming relations, and Britain’s visiting attorney general said an urgent solution must be found.

    The Israelis called off their trip because their British Army hosts could not guarantee they would not be arrested, the Israeli officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter. Neither the Israeli military nor the British government would comment.’

    WHAT?

    You canNOT be serious!

    But hang about – we’re all right.

    DAVID’LL FIX IT. WON’T HE?

    Baroness Scotland, the British Attorney General on a visit to Israel today said that the Foreign Secretary David Miliband was on the job. Would that be the same courageous and far-seeing Foreign Secretary who was on/off the job  TWO years ago AND perhaps even again today in the unenviable task of saving the government, Labour party and country from the horns of its present Prime Minister,  Gordon Brown dilemma?

    Miliband’s mentor, Tony Blair must be turning in his political grave.

    Tzipi Livni – War Criminal

    (Oh no! Not another one … like Lincoln, Attlee, Major and … erm … Whatsisname)

    Yes, we’ve been here before, once, twice or even three times in recent months and years.

    Just a few weeks ago Tzipi Livni was said to have cancelled a visit to Britain because a pro-Palestine group had persuaded a judge to charge her with war crimes over Gaza.

    Israeli former minister Tzipi Livni faced a warrant for her arrest in Britain. Photograph: Gerard Cerles/AFP/Getty Images

    Avi Dichter was head of the Israeli domestic Secret Service Shin Beth in 2002 when Israel killed Saleh Shehada.

    And just over two years ago, in December 2007 there was this:

    A serving Israeli minister cancelled an intended trip to Britain over concerns he could be arrested on war crimes charges. And didn’t he have diplomatic immunity then, as a government minister? And they STILL thought they could charge him?

    What’s going on here, Brown & Miliband? You’re the lawmakers. Sort it out. (story here)

    Excerpt:

    The foreign ministry said an “extreme leftist” organisation was likely to file a legal complaint against Public Security Minister Avi Dichter.

    He was the domestic intelligence agency chief in 2002 when Isael bombed a Hamas military leader’s house killing him, his bodyguard and 15 civilians.

    British law allows private citizens to file complaints of alleged war crimes.

    “Minister Dichter has cancelled this trip following threats of him being arrested in Great Britain. This is an intolerable situation,” said his spokesman Barak Sari.

    He had been invited to London as keynote speaker at a counter terrorism seminar at Kings College.

    The visit was called off after the UK government had been unable to guarantee him immunity, his office said, in the event of a private citizens complaint leading to an arrest warrant for war crimes.


    AND ON THE MILITARY CANCELLED TRIP –

    The Guardian today:  The government is determined to protect high-ranking Israeli officials from arrest in the UK, the attorney general said, as it emerged that a further visit by the Israeli military had been cancelled.

    Speaking at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem today, Baroness Scotland said Israeli leaders should not face arrest for war crimes under the law of “universal jurisdiction”, following attempts by British lawyers last month to obtain a warrant for the former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni.

    “The government is looking urgently at ways in which the UK system might be changed to avoid this situation arising again,” Scotland said. “Israel‘s leaders should always be able to travel freely to the UK.”

    Scotland’s assurance comes as the Guardian learned that the Israeli military had cancelled a visit by a team of its officers to Britain after fears they risked arrest on possible war crimes charges.

    A group of officers, reportedly from the rank of major up to colonel, were invited by the British army for a meeting on military co-operation but cancelled last week. There were also reports today that Israeli officials feared possible arrest warrants and contacted British authorities to demand a guarantee that the officers would not be arrested.

    Last week, British officials reportedly said they could offer no such guarantee and the Israeli military promptly cancelled the visit. The Israeli military, also referred to as the Israel Defence Force, declined to comment. News of the latest cancellation by high-profile Israeli politicians or army officers is likely to intensify debate around the ability of UK-based lawyers to obtain arrest warrants.

    […]

    “The risk to senior Israeli figures does concrete and immediate damage to bilateral relations”, said the deputy foreign minister, Danny Ayalon, today.

    “Organisations that are hostile to Israel try to exploit the legal channels and legal tools to threaten the Israeli and British decision-makers, including the authorities of the attorney general herself, and to thereby create political facts that should be determined around the diplomatic negotiating table.”The UK is one of a number of countries where private prosecutions can be brought for alleged war crimes committed abroad. Following the attempt to obtain an arrest warrant for Livni from a London magistrates’ court last month, the Guardian reported Foreign Office plans to change the legal process so that the attorney general would first approve warrants before suspected war criminals could be arrested. The “safeguards” were to apply to all visiting foreign leaders, not just Israelis, but provoked outrage from lawyers.


    Meanwhile, what is GGGGG up to?

    Glad you asked.

    WELL DONE, GEORGE

    George Galloway’s convoy sparks clashes, resulting in one dead Egyptian soldier and a dozen Palestinians injured (Pictures and story here)

    Jerusalem (CNN) — Hundreds of Palestinians clashed with Egyptian security forces along the Gaza border Wednesday over the delay of an expected aid convoy, leaving a dozen Palestinians wounded and one Egyptian soldier dead, Egyptian and Palestinian sources said.

    The convoy, spearheaded by British Parliamentarian George Galloway, had been delayed in the Egyptian port city of Al-Arish Tuesday after being refused entry at another Egyptian port.

    The Hamas-organized rally began peacefully but degenerated into violence with hundreds of Palestinians throwing rocks across the border wall.

    Galloway video report here. Also see Times – “Egyptian soldier killed in claxhes over Galloway convoy”


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    Blair in the UAE: “People will learn to live with each other”.

    Sorry to be a linguistic pedant, Mr Blair, but it’s ‘one another’ if there are more than TWO people doing the living. People will learn to live with one another.

    Hopefully, says the optimist. Unlikely, says the realist.

    Yours, with thanks for your efforts and optimism.

    The realistic optimist/optimistic realist.



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    12 Responses to “Israelis- KEEP OUT of Britain! Only campaigning ANTI-Israelis allowed!”

    1. Rob Says:

      Well, if Tony Blair can over-ride the law so that the invetigation into British Aerospace corruption charges could simply be dropped on his say-so, and the SNP government in Edinburgh can over-ride a normal refusal of planning permission so Donald Trump can turn a nature reserve into a golf course (see, it’s not just NooLabour who believe they’re above the law), I can’t see David Milliband having any problem making Britain a safe haven for war criminals. Maybe once he’s done that we could market ourselves as a cheap alternative to South America for Nazis on the run. Or maybe if Ratko Mladic turns up with a big enough cheque Milliband will let him in, After all, he was mounting a war on Muslims even before Tony jumped on the “war on terror” bandwagon, so he’d fit right in. No Londonistan for Ratko or Tzipi.

      • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

        Dreadful man that Blair. Determined not to let a previous government, of a different hue, be dropped in it to pacify the whiter-than-whiters of this world. More power to his elbow.

      • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

        Oh, btw,

        I noticed you haven’t told me how YOU would describe the fragrant Anjem Choudary.

        Still waiting.

      • Rob Says:

        “I noticed you haven’t told me how YOU would describe the fragrant Anjem Choudary.

        Still waiting.”

        I responded in the place where yopu asked me the question(in fact from the timestamp I was typing as you were commenting here). But happy to repost here:

        “And for what it’s worth, I consider many of Choudary’s remarks disgusting. Still, if I stoop to considering him ‘vermin’ then I don’t consider him human. If he isn’t human I can’t hold him morally responsible for his words or actions. Rats and cockroaches aren’t evil, they’re just rats and cockroaches doing what they do. Mr Choudary may be kind to animals and love his mother, but some of his outpourings, I would say, are evil, so why let him off the hook?.”

    2. keeptonyblairforpm Says:

      Tongue-in-cheek, the ‘grave’ bit, Rob. If Blair’s in his political grave I’m GG.

    3. Rob Says:

      “I noticed you haven’t told me how YOU would describe the fragrant Anjem Choudary.

      Still waiting.”

      I posted the answer where you asked the question (indeed from the timestamp I was doing so as you were commenting here). Happy to repeat it though to avoid the implication *surely unintentional…) that I’d ducked the question.

      “I consider many of Choudary’s remarks disgusting. Still, if I stoop to considering him ‘vermin’ then I don’t consider him human. If he isn’t human I can’t hold him morally responsible for his words or actions. Rats and cockroaches aren’t evil, they’re just rats and cockroaches doing what they do. Mr Choudary may be kind to animals and love his mother, but some of his outpourings, I would say, are evil, so why let him off the hook?.”

      • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

        Good points, Rob. He IS responsible for his words and actions.

        Still, if I stoop to considering him ‘vermin’ then I don’t consider him human. If he isn’t human I can’t hold him morally responsible for his words or actions. Rats and cockroaches aren’t evil, they’re just rats and cockroaches doing what they do. Mr Choudary may be kind to animals and love his mother, but some of his outpourings, I would say, are evil, so why let him off the hook?.”

        OTOH, this approach rings a lot of PC bells for me – in a previous existence.

        “Yes, children, it’s the THING you’ve done that is naughty, not you.”

        Being extremist PC has got us in a lot of the trouble we’re in today.

    4. Rob Says:

      “If Blair’s in his political grave I’m GG.”

      So THAT’s it. I hadn’t recognised you behind the alias….. When you wrote yesterday you had a lot to do I hadn’t realised you meant getting into ructions with the Egyptian riot squad.

    5. Little Ole American Says:

      Britain is becomming almost unrecognizable to me. HOW could someone like Anjem Choudary get into Parliament in the first place? I ask myself the same question about Barack Hussein Obama. Our countries are on a dangerous path. It seems so long ago (was it really only a YEAR ago?) I regarded my country and yours as being STRONG, with the most enviable freedoms and societies. The “Human Rights” brigade is doing both us in. The rights are being given to all except the natives who are responsible for writing the laws. We stab ourselves in the back. One day we will find we are unable to remove the knife. My only hope for my own country is the 2010 elections. I hope it is not too late by then.
      My heart aches for Britain and for the U.S. We are sick and if we do not get our strength back, the whole world will feel the consequences.

      • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

        Misunderstanding somewhere along the line, Little Ole American. Choudary is not an MP! OMG. The thought!

        Just heard something about the guy who tried to blow up the plane over Detroit. They said he’d been signed up to AQ while in uni in London. I hinted at that in an earlier post. Our universities have been known to have been infiltrated and terror recruiting agencies for years.

        If you come to most parts of Britain it will be just as you imagine it. The problem is in London, Manchester, Leeds and a few other big cities. Those of us who do not live in London notice several different segregated societies in several parts of London. Was never against this, if they thought of themselves as British first. Now it is clear many of them don’t, I have to say that I believe multiculturalism has NOT worked. The immigrants’ fault mainly for refusing to comply with our way of life, but, sadly, also politicians’ fault.

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