Swedish cartoonist Lars Vilks attacked by Islamist fundamentalists – in SWEDEN!

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    12th May 2010

    So what’s going on in the real world? Where we weren’t promised a rose garden?

    Raw Video: Chaos Erupts in Swedish Artist Attack (11th May 2010)

    My thoughts –

    1. What will our new coalition government make or do about this kind of behaviour when it happens here, and it will? What do I think? The freedom-loving Clegg half will want the rest of us to shut and to be considerate, and half of the Cameroons will too. In the end there is still no party I can really, honestly and contentendly vote for on May 7th 2015, the next time we have the opportunity.

    2. Why did these people, who hate freedom of speech and knew what to expect, bother to attend? What do I think? In order to give vent to Islamist fundamentalist violence.

    Article below from Washington Post here: ‘Muhammad cartoonist’ Lars Vilks undaunted after new attack [UPDATED]

    Swedish artist Lars Vilks, who has been the target of Muslim extremists for his artwork, reportedly was attacked Tuesday while speaking at Stockholm’s Uppsala University.

    A day later, Vilks remains undaunted and wants to deliver another lecture about free speech, he told the Associated Press.

    Vilks reportedly was in shock and had his glasses broken in the melee Tuesday, at a lecture marked by a violent protest that prompted police to use pepper spray and batons to remove Vilks from the scene.

    The artist says he wants to hold the lecture again if the university, Sweden’s oldest, will reinvite him.

    This year, Vilks, 53, was the target of an alleged murder plot. He has faced death threats since depicting the Muslim prophet Muhammad as a dog in a 2007 illustration.

    “What you get is a mob deciding what can be discussed at the university,” Vilks told the AP. “I’m ready to go up again,” he said. “This must be carried through. You cannot allow it to be stopped.”

    Battles over freedom of expression vs. beliefs about Muhammad depictions have been waged on several cartoon-related fronts this year.

    Comedy Central recently censored attempts by the animated show “South Park” to depict and satirize Muhammad, said the show’s creators, Matt Stone and Trey Parker. Comedy Central’s editing of recent episodes prompted some cartoonists to show their support for Stone and Parker, whose show sparked talk of violence by the New York-based group Revolution Muslim.

    Seventeen Pulitzer Prize-winning political cartoonists recently signed a petition to support the “South Park” creators and their right to freedom of expression without threat of violence. Several days ago, another Pulitzer winner, Pat Oliphant, added his name to that petition.

    One of the cartoonists to sign that petition, Signe Wilkinson the Philadephia Daily News, told Comic Riffs on Wednesday: “I send my sympathies to the European cartoonists who have born the brunt of this inexplicable lack of humor. I also send my sympathies to all the good-natured Muslims who get a bad name as a consequence of the bad actions of a few.

    “And I am grateful,” Wilkinson continued, “that most of the Muslims in this country came, in part, for the freedom of expression they don’t have in a lot of their home countries. They seem to get the fact that cartoons don’t kill people — crazy religious fanatics do.”

    Ann Telnaes, who also signed that petition, echoed Wilkinson’s sentiments. “I send my sympathies to all the cartoonists who have been attacked and threatened. It is ironic that this assault on Lars Vilks happened at a university, a place where ideas and debates should be expressed freely.”

    According to AP, the Stockholm university said it is “not very likely” that Vilks would be asked back.

    New York cartoonist Matt Davies, who also signed the petition, told Comic Riffs of the attack: “Obviously there is an active fault line between our Western culture’s penchant for rigorous intellectual debate and the Islamic world’s desire to not have a rigorous intellectual debate.

    “From what I understand: When he was attacked, Vilks was showing a video that dealt with homosexuality in Iran, which, like drawing pictures of Muhammad, is considered by Islamic adherents to be taboo — unlike in our religions in the west where homosexuality is, um, never mind.

    “Nonetheless,” Davies continued, “no matter what a person’s position is on any given subject, as soon as they resort to violence, they are acknowledging that their verbal argument is unsupportable.

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    4 Responses to “Swedish cartoonist Lars Vilks attacked by Islamist fundamentalists – in SWEDEN!”

    1. Amin Says:

      Firts of all forgive me for any faults in language for it is not my native language.
      Come on people are you so much blinded by hatred toward muslims that you can not see straight anymore ????
      These people are not fundemetalists they are the your normal basic muslims.
      Then ask yourself ; why is it that a group of normal people that would normaly b lend in to any kind of scenary become an outraged mob…??
      It is because they and their believe where deeply insulted by the movie that Lars Vilks was displaying.
      First of al it is not his movie so why display this, what does it con tribute to a speech about freedom of speech, nothing .. absolutly nothing at all.
      It is well known how muslims in general (not fundementalists) react to insults of their believe, so it is not about freedom of speech when you willingly start by insulting someone else.
      They (the mob) do not decide what can be said, but on the other hand is it up to Lars to decide ?????
      No, in absolute freedom of speech between all people boundries must be established by all people, and it has to be done in a fashionate way.
      What is normasl for me could be offensive for you and vice versa.
      Then whe can establish boundries beacuse for me debating with someone is first of all establishing how not to deeply offend my opponent because this would end discussion.
      In polllitics they call this sort of strattegy diplomacy and it is often used.
      Calling this insident a murder plot is blowing it way out of proportion, someone throws something or in the rage something happends and Lars his glasses are broken, this is not a murder plot its an accident.
      If there really was a murder plot from fundementalistic groups then he would probebly have been executed after the drawing of his cartoons.
      Deep in the hearts of most of these muslims they dont agree with terrorist like al Qaida, but sadly most people are not able to look at a muslim without thinking that he or she is a part of a greater conspiracy.
      Before whe can learn how to have freedom of speech whe first need to learn another lesson ;
      Whe are all part of the same creation, whe live on the same planet, breathe the same air, and whe all need wather to survive.
      If whe cut ourself whe all bleed in the same manner and all of our blood is the same.
      Whe as mankin d have been divided in to race & country`s with our one sets of cultere`s and believe`s.
      Whe first need to learn how to respect each other, before whe can truly start talking to each other.
      It`s a pitty whe always seam to step on someone`s toe in an attempt to shake one`s hand……..

      • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

        Amin

        I’m trying to work out what you mean by these two remarks, which sound contradictory to me:

        These people are not fundemetalists they are the your normal basic muslims.

        And

        Deep in the hearts of most of these muslims they dont agree with terrorist like al Qaida …

        Are you saying that although these people are ‘normal basic Muslims and not fundamentalists’ and they don’t agree with Al Qaeda, they still feel that violent reaction is the right thing to do when someone in the European land OF HIS BIRTH practises what he considers his birthright – FREEDOM of speech?

        You will find it difficult in Britain to find people (non-Muslims anyway, not to put too fine a point on it) who actually attack physically those with whom they disagree. Name-calling is rife, but we don’t generally attack people because we dislike their political views. It seems that a Muslim woman knifed the MP Stephen Timms the other day. Mr Timms is a vey popular MP. His agent is Asian, probably Muslim.

        We don’t even attack racists like the BNP. It’s not done in democracies, and is not instinctive for most Brits. That’s why we cherish democracy. We wallop them at the ballots, thus the BNP got nowhere in the general election.

        THAT FREEDOM is what WE cherish. Until you understand this – and that NONE of us has a right not to be ofended – you will understand nothing about liberal democracy.

        That is MY concern – not religion – not of any brand. DEMOCRACY.

        Btw, what is YOUR opinion on the values, values and validity of democracy? Please let us know. Many in Islam, fundamentalists or not, hold to the view that a caliphate state answering only to Allah is the only true state. To them man-made DEMOCRACY is an inconvenient truth, to be dispensed with when numbers make that possible.

        What is YOUR opinion on this way of thinking?

    2. helay Says:

      @keeptonyformp
      hey leave amin alone.WOW your filled with hatred;its unbelievable i’d like to ask you do you voice your opinions online only or shout it in the streets maybe this is what you shopuld do and we’ll see what’ll happen.

      Are you saying that although these people are ‘normal basic Muslims and not fundamentalists’ and they don’t agree with Al Qaeda, they still feel that violent reaction is the right thing to do when someone in the European land OF HIS BIRTH practises what he considers his birthright – FREEDOM of speech?

      this is what you wrote and is it not right that everyone should have freedom of speech not just someone who was born there huh?

      Your looking very racist now aren’t you?

      FOOL!

      • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

        @helay, you either misunderstand me or misinterpret me. As for amin, I have no interest in bothering him. It would have been polite of him to have answered my question though, since I responded to him.

        It is a simple question. I have asked it on numerous occasions and NOT ONE, NOT ONE Muslim has ever answered it. Perhap, as amin’s protector in this land of FREE SPEECH, you can answer it.

        My question to amin was:

        Btw, what is YOUR opinion on the values, values and validity of democracy? Please let us know. Many in Islam, fundamentalists or not, hold to the view that a caliphate state answering only to Allah is the only true state. To them man-made DEMOCRACY is an inconvenient truth, to be dispensed with when numbers make that possible.

        What is YOUR opinion on this way of thinking?

        I have no hatred for anyone. I do not call for anyone’s death, through jihad or any other medieval means. Online we can say as we like and as we feel, and many do, far more loudly than I ever do.

        Do you realise that this comes over as very threatening? –

        i’d like to ask you do you voice your opinions online only or shout it in the streets maybe this is what you shopuld do and we’ll see what’ll happen.

        Not that I am bothered by it. But do you realise it is threatening? I am offended!!!

        The issue is that when British people and other Europeans who are not Muslims say what they think about Islam they are attacked even in the land of their own birth and that of their longtime predecessors. Whereas Muslims can say what they wish about the “evil west” without any sanction. And many people, even some British or other western people just agree with them.

        I have yet to see Anjem Choudary arrested for calling for an end to democracy, death to the Queen, or for Tony Blair to return from the Middle East (presumably dead) in a box. And yet he has said ALL of these things. And not just inside a mosque. He has been recorded saying such things through a loudspeaker in Regents Park in central London.

        For instance here:

        ‘Choudary was a co-founder of Al Muhajiroun, the now-banned group tied to suspects in the July 7, 2005, London transport bombings and a cheerleader of the 9/11 attacks.

        “Democracy, hypocrisy,” Choudary chanted as the crowd echoed him. “Tony Blair, terrorist! Tony Blair, murderer! Queen Elizabeth, go to hell!”

        And he has like-minded friends who join in this kind of attack on our monarch, our (former) prime minister and OUR democracy:

        ‘Abu Saif spoke with disdain of Blair’s appointment as a special envoy to the Middle East, issuing an apparent threat.

        “Inshallah,” meaning “Allah willing,” he told the crowd, Blair will “go to the Middle East as an envoy, and he’ll come back in a box. Inshallah. What box that is, we leave that up to you.”

        I do not mind ALL and ANY people having freedom of speech in this country. That is why immigrants have come here from their own lands, and still queue up to come here. But last time I looked at our laws incitement to kill a prime minister or ANYONE in this country was against the law.

        And while Muslims take offence so easily, and yet non-Muslims are not permitted, within the land of their ancestral birth, to be offended at death threats I will always call FREEDOM isn’t FREE. LOUDLY. And on the streets if I feel so inclined. Your threats do not worry me.

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