BBC BIAS 2 – on poppy burners & arrest of EDL member

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    14th November 2010

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    Poppy burning and the arrest of an EDL member who didn’t approve of poppy burning


    Whatever happened to the actual poppy burners? I don’t know. Do you?

    This post is a propos nothing all that important, apart from BBC bias. This bias has already been mentioned here today regarding their coverage of the Remembrance Service in London. And my good friend John Rentoul has picked up on it with “Where Oh Where is Tony Blair?”

    But if our combined efforts don’t entirely convince you I thought you should know that in my humble opinion the BBC’s utterly brainwashed brainwashing continues to wash over many a brain, brainy or brainless. Got it?

    This headline, if you know the WHOLE story, is very revealing:

    EDL founder charged with Muslim poppy protest assault

    The Muslim protesters shouted "British soldiers burn in hell"

    It’s getting easier by the day to detect and dissect BBC bias against Tony Blair, the Iraq war, and any suggestion that we have one or two problems with some of our immigrant Muslim population.

    I’m almost tempted to wonder if they are in cahoots with all three main political parties, whose political ‘correctness’ and fear of civil unrest puts them in constant denial mode.

    As if the headline wasn’t misleading enough – remember this is in essence or SHOULD be a story about Muslims burning the poppy on Remembrance Day – the BBC’s coverage got worse. Far worse.

    The only saving grace in this BBC report was the picture showing who the REAL villains of the piece/peace were – MUSLIM DEMONSTRATORS. And the burning poppy was, by the time this picture was taken, hardly recognisable as the emblem of our war dead. The fallen from ALL wars.

    I contend that the BBC website only used that picture AT ALL in order to defend itself from the accurate accusation that their news item showed bias against Britain, OUR country, and foreign policy.

    Not until we get to sentence four in the item do we get to the nub of the issue. In the first three sentences it is all about an EDL (English Defence League) member who was arrested and charged with assaulting a police officer.

    I think this whole article deserves line by line, almost word by word dissection.

    But before I do that, here some videos and more pictures of the disgraceful behaviour by people who have NO understanding of the meaning of freedom. Pictures perhaps a touch more graphic than the BBC’s, on the ABSOLUTE DISGRACE OF MUSLIMS burning the poppy at the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month.

    UK Muslim’s Burning Poppy’s on Remembrance Day

    For the entire TWO minutes that most of the country stopped in silent commemoration this crowd – who quite frankly should be locked up – permanently – yelled “British troops burn in hell”. Interspersed, when they could stretch their single shared brain cell, with – “British troops murderers … British troops terrorists”. At the end of this video they burn the poppy. This started the reaction from EDL members after which one was arrested.  WHY, you might ask, since they were somewhere very near this crowd, do we not hear the EDL screaming about these Muslims burning in hell? Simple. They are civilised, and BRITISH. These members of Anjem Choudary’s latest incarnation of Islam4UK – MUSLIMS AGAINST CRUSADES – may be legal citizens of our country. But they are NOT BRITISH.

    To the politicians in this blighted land of ours – time is short. It really is.

    And a quickie as these creatures become stars for the cameras for a few moments. Sweethearts, eh?

    Muslim protesters burn poppy at remembrance 2010

    But on London Tonight, ITV news reported it thus:

    Muslims burn poppy in London on Remembrance day

    And here are some more pleasant pictures of this country’s creatures of hate –

    OUR poppy, you dullard, is not about the Middle East.

    Anjem Choudary or a lookalike sets fire to the symbol of the fallen - the poppy (from first world war poem, In Flanders Fields)

    See – ‘In Flanders Field the poppies grow…’ (1915- WW1)

    I'm all for burning the poppy fields of Afghanistan Those poppies fund the Taliban. But why burn the poppy which commemorates the dead of the last 100 years? WHY? Because they fought for FREEDOM. This idiot doesn't understand, respect or want freedom.

    British soldiers, dumbass, are dying for YOUR freedom, NOT for any amount of money. If it were up to me, YOU, scumbags, would burn in hell.

    YOUR land? This land, Britain, is NOT your land. Not now, and never will be.

    Pictures above via Politics Ireland site here

    So let’s just check the balance of the BBC’s news report. The references to the EDL members are in blue, those to Muslims Against Crusades in red.

    BBC news report:


    The founder of the English Defence League (EDL) has been charged with assaulting a police officer during a confrontation with Islamic protesters.

    Stephen Lennon, 27 of Luton, was held as the Muslims Against Crusades group burnt poppies in Kensington, west London, during a two-minute silence to mark the anniversary of Armistice Day.

    Five other members of EDL have been arrested on suspicion of affray.

    Two Muslim protesters have been arrested for public order offences.

    As the clock struck 1100 GMT, Islamic protesters burned a model of a poppy and chanted “British soldiers burn in hell”.

    One police officer was taken to hospital with a head injury sustained during clashes as about 50 men linked to EDL were kept separate as they shouted abuse.

    A Metropolitan Police spokesman said Mr Lennon had been released on bail and would appear at West London Magistrates’ Court on 22 November.

    He said four other men, aged 41, 42, 19 and 18, all arrested on suspicion of affray, had been released on bail until mid-December.

    The spokesman added that the two members of Muslims Against Crusades, aged 25 and 30, had been bailed until mid-December pending further inquiries.’


    That’s 5 sentences MAINLY about the EDL and 3 about the MAF. The second sentence from the end is vague.

    Taken as a whole this is BBC BIAS. Nothing less.

    Also, take NOTE of the differences in response to being arrested between the EDL member and the Muslims Against Crusades member as sourced from here

    EDL member – (A FAIR COP, GUV)

    ‘Stephen Lennon, the founder of the English Defence League, has been charged with assaulting a police officer, following a showdown between the anti-Islam group and members of the fundamentalist organisation Muslims Against Crusades.

    On the Facebook page “English Defence League (EDL)”, which appears to be run by Mr Lennon, a message was left which said, “i wanna thank everyone that was there yesterday. as i said in Leicester we will combat militant islam where ever it raises its backward medieval paedophilic disturbed head. been charged with assaulting a copper, apparently as i took one of the scums sticks and swang it, it hit a coppers face behind me.”


    “Unfortunately, as is the case with the dictatorial British regime, who are unable to live up to their supposed values of freedom and democracy, two Muslim participants were harshly arrested, by the oppressive British police.

    “We ask Allah (SWT) to accept the actions of all the Muslims that attended and we moreover pledge that we will never stop condemning the British regime nor their allies until all British soldiers are withdrawn from foreign (Muslim) countries and until the justice of Islam is implemented all over the world.”

    So, as well as expecting your Allah to forgive you lot for disrespecting the dead of all wars for the last 100 years, you’re giving your host country TWO provisos? Withdraw from foreign (Muslim) countries AND even then let you creatures set up your barbaric, medieval sharia law in OUR land?

    FORGET IT. Forget ALL of it.

    They want oppression? The sort they’d get in their historic familial homelands? They’re going to get it if they keep up this behaviour.

    Btw, THESE must be the “oppressive British Police” they were on about:

    Police overwhelmed by rioting “students”. Too many students today. Too few brains.

    Related stories

    • In case you thought it was only the British press in perverted denial take a look at this from Atlas Shrugs. “A friend of mine …..  has a bumper sticker that says “Freedom Yes! Sharia Law, No!”… He and his wife are each former military and are attending college on the GI bill. They have a large Somali population in their area, probably because of the RRP program (below). A week ago when he was walking to his car in the school parking lot he was assaulted by a man but was able to fight him off and get away. Two days ago, he was once again walking to his car in the school parking lot and a knife wielding assailant stabbed him in the chest. The information is below:
    • The Sun – sick protesters torch poppy – some pictures here of the British police protecting this gang, FGS, and the staff at Lloyd’s of London showing what love of one’s country really means.
    • “Horrific sight as Muslims burn poppy” – and a video from an American moderate Muslim.
    • And in Italy an Israeli student was attacked by a Muslim gang, and it seems, the police did nothing

    MORE reports on the Burning Poppy

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    10 Responses to “BBC BIAS 2 – on poppy burners & arrest of EDL member”

    1. Rob Says:

      I think their protest was as tasteless as the public Koran-burning that the American nutter was all set to do. Still, while we’re remembering those who fell in defence of freedom, I don’t believe the freedoms for which they gave their lives included the freedom to declare British citizens un-British because of their race or religion, nor the freedom to lock protestors up permanently for carrying out an act, however tasteless, that caused no injury to anyone nor so far as I can see any damage to property apart from their own. Unlike the pure-as-snow, white “British” EDL members (and believe me, if I could disown them as fellow-counrtymen I would) they kept their protest at the juvenile yah-boo-aren’t we-shocking level without feeling the need to rough up a copper.

      You see “one or two problems with our immigrant Muslim population” (these guys are probably more British than you are, BTW) where I see one or two problems with neo-Nazi paramilitaries out looking to cause violence wherever they can, even in the middle of the Remembrance Day ceremony. Civilised and British?

      P.S. See, I can be polite without being dishonest.

      • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

        I found your comment, Rob. I wasn’t up when you posted it at about 2:00am this morning.

        Their protest wasn’t just tasteless, it was ATROCIOUS, INSULTING and IGNORANT. This crowd of Anjem Choudary’s are so self-important they think Remembrance Day is about THEM, or rather about Middle East wars. They know NOTHING about Britain’s history. Or rather they care little for any of it which doesn’t suit their stupid agenda.

        These (often) violent, always noisy, thoroughly sickening rioters are only interested in what THEY think and want. They are no more bothered about their Muslim “brothers” in Afghanistan or Iraq than are their Muslim brothers from AQ, the Taliban and the Muslim Brotherhood who KILL “brothers” so that idiots in this country (if the shoe fits, put it on) can scream that western imperialism is to blame.

        They are NOT BRITISH BECAUSE, DEAR ROB, THEY TELL YOU SO. Have you ever heard Anjem Choudary on this? I transcribed the whole of his HardTalk appearance after 7/7, because the BBC hadn’t. It’s all here:

        There he said “only Muslim victims of 7/7 were innocent”, amongst other gems. The whole world is his, and Islam’s. Britain is just a sideshow, a platform upon which he can act out his fantasies, and a gullible, ‘freedom first’ suicide base whose liberal rights he can use to his ugly heart’s EVIL content.

        We do not know yet until the court cases, of course, what exactly happened re EDL violence. Although of course YOU DO know, as is your habit.

        However the video above seems to show the EDL man trying to grab an insulting placard on soldiers from a Choudary gang member, slipping, and hitting accidently someone behind who tried to restrain him. A police officer, presumably. I DID point out that the EDL guy said he had done this, whereas the other gang moaned at their oh-so-pleasant website (Heard it yet? Seen the lies?) about the British police. Why do you NEVER complain about the lies THESE people say about our police and our soldiers? Why do you never defend the British indigenous people? Why are you so pro these creatures – these debased inhuman ANIMALS (in my opinion)?

        I don’t know enough about the EDL to know whether or not they are racist, though I suspect some of them are and some aren’t. But I am not racist. Most definitely not. Islam is not a race, anyway, whether good or bad Islam, and I’m sure both varieties exist.

        Oh, and btw, using the “racist” word in this context is a bit like raising the Hitler word in connection with Blair. It’s a guaranteed getout from respectable or intelligent debate. As for the “neo-Nazis” out looking to cause violence. TWO big mistakes: 1 – The ‘neo-Nazis’ are those trying to change our country from within, the EDL are a response to that effort. 2 – the EDL responded to the MAC crowd of loonies, NOT the other way round.

        Get your facts straight, Rob, and your anti-British culture and history and then learn a few things about the threat from within before you defend today’s neo-Nazis – Anjem Choudary’s mob.

        Their site is Muslims Against Crusades, where you will no doubt enjoy their brain-dead chanting and their lies about British soldiers.

        From memory I think it is

        If you’re going there I’d suggest you do it in a private browsing session, so they don’t have your IP address. Sorry, can’t imagine why, but I don’t trust this crowd.

        They are lying bastards, and should be thrown out of Britain. If only some other country would take them.

        And on that point, NO. These guys are NOT more British than I am, you fool. My family go back to the Magna Carta in these islands. Remember that?

      • Rob Says:

        People who protest that they’re not racist just a paragraph away from where they contrast “indigenous British” (i.e. white) people with “animals” are worthy only of ridicule. If they were born here they’re British, regardless of what rubbish they spout. Most of Blair’s pronouncements make me ashamed that he’s British, but he is. I’m far less convinced by you, on the other hand: every word you write makes you look more and more like an American masquerading as a Brit. For example, when it suits you you claim to be Scottish, yet your roots go back to “Magna Carta”? Remind me, which Scottish king put his seal to that? Maybe for you history began in 1777, but for some of us it goes back rather further, and Scotland and England had separate histories long before TB introduced devolution. Better to say your roots went back to Macbeth: after all, he had folk killed because of crazy delusions that they posed him a threat. With your profoundly n-British attitudes your posing as either English or Scottish is nearly as amusing as your pretending not to be a racist.

        • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

          Rob, you know something – for the reason you state and for the fact that I know people like you would knee-jerkingly jump on that, I paused before I wrote “indigenous”.

          I will tell you again that I am NO racist. Never have been and never will be.

          So let’s deal with your nonsense. Your RIDICULOUS nonsense.

          WHY do people who dislike the centuries of civilizing western deelopments in this world often refer to the “indigenous Australians”, “North Americans”, “Romanians” etc with NO comeback for their OWN clear racist prejudices and attitudess? WHY do they get away with it? Simple. Because racism in their narrow and biased minds works only one way. Whites are racists. Non-whites are NEVER so.

          Mugabe, who referred to Blair’s little pink nose is a racist. Dianne Abbott is a racist. Shami Chakrabarti is a racist. Tony Blair is NOT a racist. I am not a racist.

          You, on the other hard, probably are, only you’re not smart enough to realise it.

          I am British, first and foremost. My family were not always, ALL, Scottish. Some were English, some Welsh, some Irish. I was born in Scotland but I have deep disdain for Scottish nationalism. I therefore, not thinking in the narow way YOU clearly do, do not see my historic culture or that of my country (Britain) as only being Scottish, though it is also Scottish. Whatever it is, it is NOT Islamic.

          I will warn you of this, Rob. Don’t continue to call me racist. I find it deeply insulting, since I know that it is not true.

          Tony Blair makes me proud to be British.

          So if you want to keep commenting here, stop describing either of us as racist. Alternatively you can just keep on stalking me at your little hell-hole of half-truths.

    2. celia walters Says:

      It was in memory of Battle of Britain yesterday as this year is 70 anniversary of that battle as well as more modern ones . Perhaps these disgusting idiots should think if Hitler had won that battle they all would have been exterminated in death camps so they have a lot to be thankful for. I feel for families of dead and injured soldiers however long ago or modern to see these pathetic things behaving in such a vile manner. If they don’t like us or our country they should go to a country where the way of life they like is like Iran for example and leave us alone

      • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

        I agree completely, Celia. Of course. These idiots have no interest in thinking. Their agenda is to take over this country, and they will if the liberal-minded left don’t pull their fingers out.

        There are plenty of airports near ALL our main cities. All they need to do is buy a one-way ticket. Lebanon would be a good destination. Then, try that dissent and incitement there, and they could get locked up for life like Omar Bakri Muhammad, Choudary’s boss.

      • Rob Says:

        Like it or not (and I’d say not) this country belongs to the “pathetic things as well as to the rest of us, so they won’t be going anywhere. Nice though to see someone admitting that Hitler would have exterminated Asian Muslims just as cheerfully as he killed Jews. So many folk
        these days come out with the lie that all the Muslims were supporters of Hitler.

        • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

          Rob – not ALL Muslims were supporters of Hitler, of course not. As not ALL Muslims are supporters of Bin Laden, Anjem Choudary or terrorism. As far as I know NONE of the Muslims I know support either of those two creatures. But the commenter may or may not be right. We will never know. Certainly Hitler’s dedication to the extermination of the Jews was something he shared with important Muslims at the time. Presumably you don’t need a link to prove that? Or do you? Here’s one anyway.

          And here’s a video:

          Islamic dedication to the extermination of the Jews goes back FAR further than the 1930s of course.

          Now, is THAT racism? Or is it just Islamo-fascism? Clearly, if the latter, it is not really a problem, as far as you are concerned.

          And, btw, I do not accept that we should accept these “pathetic things” who mean to destroy western civilisation. You do. Clearly. A sign of your weakness and your inability to understand, not mine.

    3. peter jones Says:

      It is my belief, and will prove to entirely correct, that given the limits of language to describe his phenomena, the populations, yes populations, of many countries have mesmerised into bowing to the relgious/political/cutlural scheme, that which they ars calling islam.
      It is very similar to before the 2nd World War, although Nazi German was manufacturing and creating a huge military capability people believed (because the wanted to, why) there would not be aneed to oppose him with force. As today, moslems talk of little else but ridding the world of the ‘ non beltevers ‘ and controllong the whole world, but people sat they cannot hear this, why, it looks like stupidity and it kind of resembles cowardice. We shall see. I think it is necessary that people who put a case for the islamiscists, should at a later time be compelled to account for their behaviour, and to face some sort of punishment, what they do is after all a threat to our country and they are without any doubt traitors. It is not a joke or a laughing matter. This is very serious, there are still, I would hope penalties for this crime.

      • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

        It’s the moral relativism of a pc liberal press at fault, imo. The media must KNOW, surely, that Islamism is political, but they pretend they don’t in case frightens the horses.

        At the same time the media turns western populations against western politicians who DO recognise this pehomenon. Thus Blair is a “war criminal” and “out to get Muslims” when evidentially neither is in fact the case.

        Btw, I agree with you entirely – it is no laughing matter.

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