Osama Bin Laden killed? Buried at sea? Pictures? Evidence, please…

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2nd May 2011

Update, new post, 4th May: Pictures of Osama bin Laden’s son Hamza & two other men killed at Abbottabad compound. Warning. Graphic


UPDATE: DISSING THE PICTURES BELOW

Will Heaven has this at his blog at the Telegraph – “Why that photo of a dead Osama bin Laden is a photoshopped fake”

Click his links to see his detective work. Unfortunately, he may well be right.

My request to President Obama should be updated: WE NEED TO SEE VIDEO EVIDENCE OF OSAMA BIN LADEN’S BODY. That and other evidence, DNA for a start, might quell the suspicions of those of us who have a sneaky, uncomfortable feeling that this announcement is little more than an electioneering tactic by President Obama. His out of jail (Afghanistan) card?

UPDATE 2: Is this Obama’s get out of jail (Afghanistan) card?  More posts on this here:


BURIED AT SEA?

With undue haste, some might suggest.

Call me sceptical if you must, and I am no conspiracy theorist, but until I see verified, authenticated, official pictures of the dead body of Osama Bin Laden, killed by the Americans, it is said, in Pakistan on Sunday, I’m not convinced.

There are, thus far, various versions of what has happened to the Al Qaeda leader’s body, but this one – ‘already buried at sea’ – should give us cause for concern.

SHOW US THE EVIDENCE!

This picture is findable online –

Osama Bin Laden looks younger than he did last time we saw his photo. No grey beard. Easily photoshopped.

The picture above looks just about plausible, until you see this –

If this is Osama bin Laden he's been using "Dye before you Die" - aka Saudi 2011

This purports to be his body – “tortured”

These pictures do NOT back each other up.  In fact they contradict each other. Both pictures, therefore, are highly questionable.

Come on Mr Obama – show us Osama. We know you are busy – what, with elections upcoming – but PLEASE.

If we never see an official picture – and please don’t tell us pictures were not taken – I will simply NOT believe this.

Given that there are multitudes of pictures online of babies blown to bits and people actually being decapitated by jihadists from Al Qaeda and the Taliban no-one in this world today will accept any argument that the pictures of Osama’s body are too gruesome. Or that the Muslim world will be incited by them.

Please do not insult our intelligence.

Sky News is invariably quicker than the BBC with news. So keep an eye out here. At present there is an American CIA man – Michael Shuer(?) sounding particularly supportive of President Obama. He is saying that Bin Laden should have been taken out years ago – ditto Gaddafi. I’m sure this will go down well with the liberal lefties who thought they had got rid of the gung-hos when Bush and Blair went!

Sky has this report here, with Tony Blair’s thoughts and Anjem Choudary’s, obviously equally worth reading!

Apart from a silly video at YouTube purporting to be of Osama’s dead body – don’t waste your time – this is all that even refers to the Al Qaeda leader.  And, despite the title of the video, there is no pictorial evidence:

ADDENDUM

This business of his body having been sent to Saudi Arabia, the land of his birth, looks like passing the buck. So, it was the Saudis’ decision to bury him at sea. Was it?  Hmmm…

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186 Responses to “Osama Bin Laden killed? Buried at sea? Pictures? Evidence, please…”

  1. Peter Reynolds Says:

    Any picture could be easily faked. Many commentators think he’s been dead for years anyway.

    I have no idea what the truth is and I doubt that David Cameron does, maybe not even Obama.

    Whether there’s any truth in this “news” or not, it’s all propaganda. It’s what’s behind it that’s of significance.

    • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

      Yes, Peter, I DO know that many think he has beed dead for years. And I also know that pictures can be faked. I do it myself at times, though I always admit it! But I do not acept that there is no evidence or body of evidence that we can be shown.

  2. Michele Says:

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/willheaven/100085835/why-that-photo-of-a-dead-osama-bin-laden-is-almost-certainly-a-photoshopped-fake/
    Article shows the picture of Osamas body is fake.
    It just happened so give it time. no doubt within the next few day it will be leaked. American people will hound the government for it unil it is.

    • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

      @ Michele,

      Thanks for this. I will add it to the blog.

      My concern is that President Obama or his people, falling in the polls, has/have cooked this all up with elections in the air. I am delighted if bin Laden is no more – and he may well have been no more years ago. But if the Americans dancing in the Washington streets are being misled for political reasons it’s astonishing and disgraceful.

      Show us the evidence, Mr President. ALL of it.

    • Jordan Says:

      “American people will hound the government for it until it is.”

      That almost never works. Unless you believe everything your government tells you.

  3. Leah Ashley Says:

    thank you for assuring me that i’m not the only skeptic in the room. i found this site looking for actual proof.

    • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

      @ Leah,

      I can’t imagine WHY some of us are so suspicious.

      Oh, hang on – I can:

      US Elections in 18 months.
      Obama got Osama. Bush didn’t.
      Obama is a US citizen. Proof recently given.

      All well and good. Electioneering is natural from all sides.

      But :

      Osama – buried at sea. (not normally done in Islam, unless died at sea.)
      No pictorial, video or other evidence yet.
      Middle East still in uproar.
      This success makes Obama, who has been weak on Libya, look strong on terrorism.
      Israel/Palestinian issues still outstanding. Hamas’s response shows them for what they are, defusing things for Israel, perhaps.

  4. T-man Says:

    Wow. people come on, why would we tape Saddam’s
    hanging and his capture, but we dont even take a picture of the man that killed nearly 3000 Americans? I believe we were spending too much money looking for him, so our Government Lied to everyone saying we caught him.

    • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

      Quite. But Saddam was tried and then hanged. For doing things right Bush (and Blair) got it in the neck.

      I wonder if this OBL dead business could be part of a strategy to take control of the Arab Spring and to wrest the high ground(?!) from Hamas and other so-called Palestinian people sympathisers.

      If so, I’m with them on this. Sometimes you have to box clever in politics. But if it is simply President Obama looking to increase his popularity, presently at a low, I’m NOT with them.

  5. Omar Says:

    This sounds fishy and they keep saying he was in a mantion that was no mantion. And if it is true this is only gonna bring more problems I think. I’ve lost a lot of trust in our government everything has a double standard or things are done with other interest. This guy was living in a the middle of a city and they couldn’t find him? I’m sure the U.S. Has some bad motherf@$kers that can find people anywhere. A lot of things I see on the news just sounds like bs or they jus don’t give it to you straight. People surprise me with how gullible they are.

  6. MEL KELLY Says:

    I would eventually like to see some sort of proof myself but good Lord give them a minute. They are doing DNA for confirmation. Doesn’t that suggest that there is the remote possibility it isn’t Osama and that they want confirmation before releasing photos and/or video. Geez.

  7. Dee Says:

    Well it is good to see that others out there are as skeptical as myself.
    When Saddam’s son’s were killed the bodies were on view for days.
    When he was killed, photos of his hanging were on the web.
    Now so called Bin Laden is dead?? People, he has been dead for years!!
    There have been no videos or true audio tapes of this monster for so
    long now. My gut tells me that he was killed years ago and his followers
    covered it up to make us all believe that he was still out there somewhere
    directing traffic. To admit that he was dead would be a losing battle for
    the terrorists.
    It does not take a rocket scientist to figure this one out. How appropriate
    is the timing of this “big announcement” when Obama is being slammed
    by Trump and forced to show his “birth certificate” which should have
    been disclosed years ago. If he is or is not an American is not the
    big issue to me right now. What makes me shake my head in disgust
    is that, now all of a sudden Bin Laden is “dead” but there are no pictures
    of the carnage. Just empty rooms with blood on the floor. Give me a break!!!

    Buried at sea to follow Muslim tradition?? Give me a break!!! This is the
    world’s most horrific terrorist of the past ten years and we bury him
    at sea to follow with Muslim tradition? Laughable to say the least.
    Until I see videos with close ups of the “so-called” dead body, I will
    never believe this. I maintain in my feelings that this poor excuse
    for a human being, has been dead for a long time now.
    Show me the body!! Not photo shopped either!!!!!!!!!!

    • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

      I’m with you 100%. Obama, with low poll ratings, may well feel he needs a get out of jail (Afghanistan) card. This could be it, just in time for the Nov 2012 election.

      Until I see credible evidence I’m nothing near convinced, and believe me I am no conspiracy theorist. Normally!

  8. MEL KELLY Says:

    And by the way, America loves Tony Blair and our UK allies.

  9. John Plumridge Says:

    The two photos here contradict each other. Burial at sea a day later! WHose idea was that, the Royal Navy? – In this case it’s disposing of the evidence. We’re all so impressed with DNA testing, it’s scientific and modern: so we can just believe it’s true and lump it, eh? NO need for further discussion.

    WHat were the DNA samples tested against? When and where were they collected, when was he in custody and required to give samples? What is the name of the director of the DNA lab testing the corpse, and how much was he bribed?

    • keeptonyblairforpm Says:

      @ John P,

      Right. It doesn’t seem the Americans celebrating in New York and Washington are asking any of those questions. Odd, isn’t it? And they asked thousands of questions of Bush over what they saw as a non-existent “war on terror”.

      The idea that people will swallow all of this without credible evidence – especially since they dumped, sorry, buried his body at sea!!! – is unbelievable!.

      It will take more than Obama boasting over Osama to convince me.

      We need pictures and videos of his body AND the burial at sea. In fact we MUST have them.

  10. John Plumridge Says:

    The ‘body’ was taken into custody after a firefight, according to Obama. I suppose it was one of those firefights like you get on tv, where no American soldiers were hit, only the enemy.

    It was an American hit team, because the pakistanis were so hopeless, of course, to find him around the corner from their equivalent ‘Sandhurst’ military academy.

    Now every who considers themselves a sheep is happy.

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