Female Muslim Suicides: Love in the Afterlife – or NOT

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29th July, 2008

72 VIRGINS FOR ME TOO, PLEASE

Someone wrote to me asking this:

“Have you all noticed the increase in women suicide bombers? I wonder what they promise them when they get to heaven? To be one of the 72 virgins the men are promised? Well, the way the women are treated in Islam I guess even death is better.”

It’s something to ponder on. In the light of all the female suicide bombers lately what do THEY get in return for the ultimate sacrifice? For shaheeda? Seventy two MALE virgins? Fat lot of good most of them would be, I hear my female readers say. As usual the female would be doing the teaching!

Oddly enough I had never thought of this before! But following a link sent by another correspondent, this might be the answer:

Oh, Happy Day - The Rewards for Shaheeda are ... what?

Excerpt from the below article: “… what can the loyal and obedient women expect to find for herself in paradise? Because Paradise is described in largely male terms, the exact nature of an equivalent reward for women remains unclear. Married women, who pass the purity test will be reunited with their husbands and children.”

WHAT!? Come on … I mean, COME ON! And half of them might have blown themselves up to get AWAY from the old man!

No wonder this young Muslim lady looks so miserable.

No virgins for women in Muslim Paradise

By Ted Sampley, U.S. Veteran Dispatch, January 26, 2007
‘When Muslim men die and pass to Islamic Paradise (Heaven), they expect to enter a utopian dimension where wine, milk and honey flows, fruit-trees flourish and rivers gush forth with the purist water.

Here, they plan to be greeted by 72 young virgins of “perpetual freshness” (houris) who will lead them into palaces loaded with luxurious thrones surrounded by gold, silver and jewel plated furnishings – a holy place where believers reclined on jeweled couches surrounded by the finest silks can experience unlimited erotic sexual pleasures.

Islamic scholar Yusuf Ali described the virgins as “the companionship of Beauty and Grace – one of the highest pleasures of life. In the higher life it takes a higher form.  The pronoun in Arabic is in the feminine gender. It is made clear that these maidens for heavenly society will be of special creation – of virginal purity, grace, and beauty, inspiring and inspired by love, with the question of time and age eliminated.”

The virgins, according to another Islamic commentator are “creations of God, intelligent yet soulless and created to serve the believer who goes to Paradise. They are created for the purpose of serving the believer, and as such, they don’t exactly have free will. They are described as pure, beautiful, dark eyed, lustrous, virgin, and more perfect than any human on earth. Imagine the woman of your dreams.”

Quranic commentator Al-Suyuti (died 1505 ) explained more graphically that Muslim men in Paradise experience non-ending arousals and that ever time they have sex with one of the angelic maidens, they find her body reconstituted as “virgin.”

“The sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint,” Al-Suyuti explained. ” Each chosen one [Muslim] will marry seventy houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all (will be appetizing).”

Islam’s Prophet Muhammad was heard saying about Islamic Heaven: ‘The smallest reward for the people of paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana’a [Yemen].”

To assure Muslim men that they will be able to fully enjoy their heavenly rewards, Muhammad said, “A man in paradise shall be given virility equal to that of one hundred men.”

Islamic law and moral guidance for all of Islam is mostly based on the life of Muhammad and his Quranic revelations, his life as a conquering warrior and his sayings, acts, approvals or disapprovals. He was born 570 years after the death of Jesus Christ.

Muslims say that the Archangel Gabriel manifested himself to Muhammad where he was secluded in a cave to pray.

Gabriel, according to Islamic teachings, instructed the terrified Muhammad that he had been chosen as a messenger of God to “recite, repeat and proclaim” revelations from God. For nearly 23 years, Muhammad supposedly received “Divine” instructions

As soon as Muhammad would receive a divine revelation and repeat it back to his followers, it became Islamic tradition or law. Muhammad recited a revelation declaring that Christ was not the Son of God, another instructing Muslims that it was their heavenly duty to fight and kill Christians and Jews wherever they could be found.

For centuries Muslim men have followed Muhammad’s specific “revelation” instructions on how and when to fight, loot, pillage, plunder, rape, torture and murder in order to further the interests of Islam and their own personal wealth in the form of “plunder.”

Muslim women were and still are restricted to the role of wife, who is a source of comfort for her husband and mother for his children. This because Muhammad was heard to say “men are the protectors and maintainers of women because Allah has given one more strength than the other, and because they support them from their means” and “stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display of yourselves like that of the former times of ignorance. (Surah Ahzab:33)

When a Moslem female turns 7 years old, she is segregated from all males in and out of her extended family. From then on, no males including her father, grandfather, uncles, brothers, cousins are allowed to be present at her birthday parties or at any ceremony celebrating her accomplishments.

At 9 years old, she must begin adhering to Islamic laws because she is considered an adult and eligible for marriage. Muhammad contracted for his wife Aisha, when she was 7 (he was 51) and consummated the marriage when she was 9.

Aisha, was the second of 11 wives and an unknown number of concubines and female slaves who Muhammad collected during his life, which span from 570 AD until 632 AD.

When a Muslim woman steps from her house into the public, her body must be covered from head to toe with no skin showing (hijab).

This law, according to Islamic tradition, is a result of Muhammad becoming upset one day when he noticed several of his wives flirting with men who were visiting him. Muhammad ordered the women to retire behind a dividing curtain when speaking to the men. It was that order by Muhammad which caused the Islamic obligation of hijab. The term comes from the Arabic word “hijaba,” which means to hide from view.

If a Muslim women gets sick, she is required to be treated by female doctors. If none are available, she must be examined through some sort of divider or go without treatment.

Like Muslim men, Muslim women must kneel facing Mecca and pray five times a day and fast one month out of a year. Women are required to pray at home in many Islamic countries because females are not allowed in mosques. Among the countries which allow women in mosques, the women are banished to basement rooms or other segregated spaces.

Muslim leaders explain that for Islamic prayers to be “valid” and “accepted by Allah,” the prayer must be offered with a complete presence of the heart, harmony of the inner self and uninterrupted concentration.

They say women performing the Muslim prayer movements of standing upright, sitting, bending and prostrating is inappropriate because it distracts men from their prayers. For justification, Muslim leaders point to the Islamic tradition which states ” . . . and whoever prays behind a woman imam should repeat his prayers even if the time slot for that specific prayer has passed.”

Muhammad was once heard saying: “from among my followers there will be some who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, to be lawful. Allah will destroy them during the night and will let mountains fall on them. He will transform the rest into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Doom” (Hadith, Volume 7, Book 69, Number 494v).

As a result, Muslim women are ordered not to wear silk (fashionable cloths) or bright colors, play musical instruments, dance, wear make-up, date, have sex outside of marriage, play sports, watch men play (even on television), etc. If they get caught doing so, depending on the Islamic country, they will be arrested and beaten.

Women living under Islamic laws are not allowed to work, travel, go to college, join organizations, or visit friends and relatives without the permission of their father or husband.

They can be legally jailed or executed for violations of Islamic laws, depending on the seriousness the infraction.

Quranic verse 24:31 warns Muslim women not to make eye contact or allow any part of their skin or jewelry to be seen by strangers, “and tell the believing women to lower their gaze and protect themselves from illegal sexual acts, and not show off their adornment [to all men and boys].” As a result of this verse, if an adult girl (9 years and older) is raped by an adult man, she will be considered at fault because she was careless and provoked the attack. Her parents will be expected to severely punish or kill her for dishonoring her family.

If a woman is taken political prisoner, and condemned to death, Islamic law prevents her from being executed as long as she is a virgin because Muslim leaders believe virgins go to heaven. But, according to those same leaders, women involved in politics are “ungodly creatures” who do not deserve to go to heaven. To insure that an “ungodly virgin” does not enter heaven, the woman’s captors will treat her as a concubine making it legal for her to be systematically raped.

Islamic justification for raping woman prisoners can be found because Muhammad gave permission for Muslim warriors to rape enemy prisoners “except those (captives and slaves) whom your hands possess. Thus has Allah ordained for you…..” Surah 4:24. The key words for the Islamic legal code are “whom your hands possess” and “thus Allah has ordained for you.”

Muslim Quranic (bible) verse 4:34 instructs Muslim men to “admonish” and “beat” their wives if they become “rebellious” and that “men are the managers of the affairs of women because Allah has preferred men over women and women were expended of their Rights.”

In an Islamic court of law, it takes the testimony of two women to override the testimony of one man. Justification for this legal tradition is found in Quran 2:282.

Muslim women are not allowed equal right to their inheritance (Quran 4:11-12) because they are only worth half of a man’s share. In most Islamic countries, women are not allowed to vote and are certainly not allowed to be elected to public office.

According to Islam, most women are inherently evil and their ultimate destiny is Hell fire. Muhammad explained about one of his visions “. . . I stood at the gate of the Fire [Hell] and saw that the majority of those who entered it were women.”

When a women asked Muhammad why there were more women in Hell than men, he replied, “You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.”

When the woman asked what was deficient in a woman’s intelligence and religion, Muhammad answered, “Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man? This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses? This is the deficiency in her religion.”

Because Muhammad said, “marry such women as seem good to you, two, three, four; but if you fear you will not be equitable, then only one, or what your right hands own; so it is likelier you will not be partial,” polygamy is legal in Islam. A man may marry “four Permanent” and as many “Provisional” or temporary wives as he desires.

Because Muhammad said, “your women are a tillage for you; so come unto your tillage as you wish,” Islam assumes not only that women are worth less than men, but that they are property who must unquestionable meet all her husband’s sexual desires. If she refuses, he has the legal right under Islamic law to deny her food, shelter, and all of life’s necessities.

A Muslim woman does not have the right to choose who she wants to marry. She is not permitted to divorce her husband unless she can prove he is impotent or that he does not have sex with her “at least one night in every forty nights” and if he has not provided her with a minimum standard of living. In both cases, the woman would need another witness, because Muhammad said a women’s testimony counts only “half of a man’s.”

If a Muslim women protests any of her treatment, she is reminded that “her husband can divorce her simply by repeating “I divorce you” three times and that her prayers and devotions will not be accepted by God and curses of heaven and earth will fall upon her” if she continues to rebel.

Since Muhammad’s time, Muslim women have been made to fear the Hell Fire consequences of disobeying husbands and fathers, but what can the loyal and obedient women expect to find for herself in paradise?

Because Paradise, is described in largely male terms, the exact nature of an equivalent reward for women remains unclear. Married women, who pass the purity test will be reunited with their husbands and children. A woman who married more than once would have to choose which husband she would prefer to join her in the after-life. She, however, remains reserved for her husbands, if one chooses to keep her.

Men who married more than once will remain free to keep all their wives while having the privilege of being attended to by 72 pure, beautiful, dark eyed, lustrous angelic maidens, whose bodies continuously reclaims as “virgins.”

Muslim scholars say that Muslim women in Paradise are also rebuilt young and beautiful with perpetual virginity, but that there is no Quranic promise of virgins for women.

Although Muhammad was heard promising that “round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls,” Muslim scholars are emphatic that the pretty virgin boys in Paradise are not there for the women.’

“I am a Moslem woman. I have no face. I have no identity . . . Islam believes and promotes only one relationship between male and female and that is the relation of lust . . . I have no explanation on why God denied me everything and made men in charge of me, if there is a God. I don’t believe there ever was one.”– Dr. Parvin Darabi, a rehabilitated Muslim woman, author and activist.

More on – I am a Moslem Woman, by Parvin Darabi

I Am a Moslem Woman – Parvin Darabi

I Am a Moslem Woman – Parvin Darabi

“They differed with me over what times we are living in. It is not a democracy when a man can talk about politics without anyone threatening him.  Democracy is when a woman can talk of her lover without anyone killing her.” – Dr. Sauad M. Al-Sabah

I am a Moslem woman. I have no face. I have no identity. At age 9, based on lunar year (a lunar year is ten days shorter) I am considered an adult. Being an adult means that I have to adhere with Islamic laws as stated below.

I have to pray five times a day, fast one month out of the year and cover myself from head to toe in yards of black fabric. I am eligible to be married and can be punished for any wrong doing. I can be incarcerated and, if needed, executed for my crimes, even political ones.

Islam’s law – that Allah sent down to his messenger Muhammad – came to announce that women (exactly like men) are full human beings. Women (like men) are therefore required to follow the way appointed by Allah.

“A woman (like a man) is therefore obligated with all three degrees of this religion: Islam (outward submission to Allah), iman (inward faith in Allah), and ihsan (perfection of worship of Allah)”.

“Women have such honorable rights as obligations, but men have a (single) degree above them”. The Koran 2:228

“Men are the managers of the affairs of women because Allah has preferred men over women and women were expended of their Rights”. The Koran 4:34

Islam believes and promotes only one relationship between male and female and that is the relation of lust.

“If a man and a woman are alone in one place, the third person present is the devil”. Prophet Mohammed

I am not allowed to swim, ski, ride a bike, dance, learn to play musical instruments, practice gymnastics, or any other sport. I am not even permitted to watch men play sports, either in the stadium and/or on television.

I am not permitted to participate in Olympic games.

From age 7, I am segregated from all males in and out of my extended family.

My father, grandfather, uncles, brothers or my male cousins are not allowed to be present at any ceremonies for my accomplishments. They will not be allowed to participate in my birthday parties.

I have to study under female teachers and professors. However, since women of prior generations were not allowed to go to school, there are not that many qualified women teachers and professors. Male professors must teach me from behind a wall.

I am to be treated by female doctors. Go to female dentists. And if there are none, then I have to go without or I must be examined through some sort of divider.

I am not allowed to practice birth control or have abortions, even if carrying or having a child means I have to die.

My worth is based on the Islamic Laws of Retribution, 24th edition, December 1982, as half of a man. It doesn’t matter who I am, how educated I am, and what earning potential I may have in my life. My worth is half of a man, any man.

According to clauses 33 and 91 of the law in respect, Qasas (The Islamic Retribution Bill) and its boundaries, the value of woman is considered only half as much as the value of a man.

Article 1: dieh or blood money paid to the victim or next of kin for as compensation for bodily injury or murder of a relative.

The Islamic Law of Retribution

In the old Islamic laws, recently placed into practice by the Islamic Republic of Iran, the worth of a man’s life is equal to the market value of 100 camels or 200 cows and that of a woman is equal to half of the man’s, 50 camels or 100 cows.

The clause number 6 regarding the dieh (cash value of the fine) states that the cash fine for murdering a woman intentionally or unintentionally is half as much as for a man. The same clause adds that if a man intentionally murders a woman and the guardian of the woman himself is not able to pay half of the Dieh (the value of 50 camels or 100 cows, the difference between the value of a man to that of a woman’s life) to the murderer, the murderer will be exempted from retribution.

New Legal Standing: Pursuant to article 85 of the constitution, the Islamic penal code article 300, blood money or dieh, a sum paid to the next of kin as compensation for the murder of a relative, is twice as much in the case of a murdered man as in the case of a woman. The number of witnesses required to prove a crime is higher if the witnesses are female. For example, article 237 of the penal code states that first degree murder must be proven by testimony of two just men and evidence for second-degree murder or manslaughter requires the testimony of two just men, or one just man and two just women, or of one just man and the accuser.

My testimony in a court of law is equal to half of that of a man. In most countries I don’t vote and I don’t get elected to office. And if I do, it does not mean much. I inherit only half as much as my male siblings.

I cannot get custody of my children. Even if their father dies. In the case of divorce or death I have to surrender my children to their father and/or his family.

I cannot travel, work, go to college, join organizations, even visit my friends and relatives without my father or husband’s permission.

I must live where my husband desires.

I am banned from studies such as engineering, agriculture, archaeology, restoration of the historic monuments and handicrafts, and many other fields. I am not allowed to become a judge.

Under the terms of Koranic law, any judge fulfilling the seven requirements (that he have reached puberty, be a believer, know the Koranic laws perfectly, be just, and not be affected by amnesia, or be a bastard, or be of the female sex) is qualified to dispense justice in any type of case.

I have no right to choose the clothing I wear in public. This is done by the Office of the Islamic Guidance which sets the color, the style, and the accessories for women and girls as young as 6 years of age.

I will get arrested, beaten, and sometimes even executed if I wear make-up, nylons, bright colors and specifically the color of red.

I cannot choose my mate and am not permitted to divorce him if things did not work out.

According to Khomeini, the Iranian Islamic Imam, “The most suitable time for a girl to get married is the time when the girl can have her first menstrual period in her husband’s house rather than her father’s”.

I have to meet all my husband’s desires including the sexual ones. And if I refuse he has the right to deny me food, shelter, and all of life’s necessities. I have to say yes every time he wants to have sex.

According to Hojatoleslam Imani, Religious Leader in Iran. “A woman should endure any violence or torture imposed on her by her husband for she is fully at his disposal. Without his permission she may not leave her house even for a good action (such as charitable work). Otherwise her prayers and devotions will not be accepted by God and curses of heaven and earth will fall upon her”.

My husband can divorce me without my knowledge and by the Islamic law he is required to support me for only 100 days. And if he dies, I am entitled to 1/8 of his Estate.

I can only ask for divorce if my husband is impotent, if he does not have sex with me at least one night in every forty nights, and if he refuses to provide me with a minimum standard of living.

My husband can have four permanent wives and if he is from Shi’i sect, he can have as many temporary wives as he wants.

Koran says that “Men your wives are your tillage. Go into your tillage anyway you want”. This means that a man is allowed to sodomise his wife and she cannot complain.

In some countries they even mutilate, cut and sew my female sexual parts in order to control and regulate my sexual desire.

According to the Islamic Laws, I am supposed to be seen outside of my home three times in my life. When I am born, when I get married and when I die.

I have no explanation on why God denied me everything and made men in charge of me, if there is a God. I don’t believe there ever was one.

In Islam, the age of majority for a girl is 9 years and for a boy is 15 years. This means that a 9 year old girl and a 15 year old boy are considered to have the same level of maturity. Now, if girls reach maturity six years earlier than boys, then why did God place men in charge of women? Was there something wrong with God’s Judgment?

In some Islamic countries such as Iran, if I am arrested for wearing make-up, the guards will force me to clean my face with cotton balls rubbed in pieces of glass. This cuts my face. The barbaric revolutionary guard, while watching the blood run out of my flesh, will tell me, “next time you think about this and will not wear it”.

As a political prisoner I will be used as a concubine for the revolutionary guards. In case I am condemned to death I will not undergo the sentence as long as I am a virgin. Thus I will be systematically raped before the sentence is executed. Mullahs believe that virgin girls who die go to heaven but politically inclined girls are ungodly creatures and they do not deserve to go to heaven, therefore they are raped so that the Mullah’s can be sure that they indeed will be sent to hell.

In Islam, if a 6 or 7 year old girl is raped by an adult man, she will be the one that gets punished. It is her fault because she provoked it. The parents then will burn or kill her because she has dishonored the family.

It has been said that the Moslem Prophet got very upset one day noticing his wives flirting with men who visited him and ordered women to stay behind a dividing curtain when speaking with men. The idea of hijab, the covering up of women, became a law in Islamic countries from that day.

In 1991, the Prosecutor-General of Iran, declared that “anyone who rejects the principle of hijab is an apostate and the punishment for an apostate under Islamic law is death.”

Polygamy is legal in Islam. A man may marry “four Permanent” and as many “Provisional” or temporary wives as he desires.

“Marry such women as seem good to you, two, three, four; but if you fear you will not be equitable, then only one, or what your right hands own; so it is likelier you will not be partial”. The Koran 4:3 “Most Europeans have mistresses. Why should we suppress human instincts? A rooster satisfies several hens, an stallion several mares. A woman is unavailable during certain periods where as a man is always active….”, Ayatollah Ghomi, LE MONDE, January 20, 1979.

Parvin Darabi

Tony & Cherie on opposite sides over the jilbab

Muslim woman wearing jilbab

Muslim woman wearing jilbab

He said “no” and she said “yes”. Or at least “maybe”. Of course, barristers are employed to put their client’s case. They do not necessarily need to support or believe in the case they put.

At this time, spring 2006, her husband was under intense pressure from the left, politically correct side of his party. He had already questioned multi-culturalism with particular regard to immigrant muslims accepting our British way of life. This very questioning had upset many within his party. It was but a few months before the Little People within the ranks made their concerted putsch against him.

Seen in this context, and with her record as a Human Rights advocate, her taking of this case is perhaps more understandable. (See Times, March 2006)

But I’d be interested to know what Ms Booth-Blair thinks of this today, with the benefit of hindsight.

March 2006: What did Boris Johnson say on female muslim dress and multi-culturalism?

Two years ago the then MP for Henley Boris Johnson, now London’s Mayor, said this on the Shabina Begum case on the wearing of the jilbab:

This case wasn’t even about religion, or conscience, or the dictates of faith. At least it wasn’t primarily about those things. It was about power. It was about who really runs the schools in this country, and about how far militant Islam could go in bullying the poor, cowed, gelatinous and mentally spongiform apparatus of the British state.

They weren’t doing it for Shabina; they weren’t doing it for the other female pupils; they were doing it to show that they could, and to take another yard of territory in the kulturkampf of modern Britain.

All around us, in our courts, in the oppressive liberty-destroying Bills being rushed through Parliament, we see the disasters of multiculturalism, the system by which too many Muslims have been allowed to grow up in this country with no sense of loyalty to its institutions, and with a sense of complete apartness.

I wonder what he’d say today?

Women Under Islam

Excerpt: Back in the 1980s, few young Western Muslim women wore the Muslim headscarf, or hijab. In fact it was banned in some Muslim countries for teachers and those employed by the state.

Woman wearing niqab/jilbab

If you’re confused as to the differences between a hijab, jilbab, niqab … I am not surprised. Go here and try to work it out. Then perhaps we can campaign for these beautiful women to let us see their faces, as God … Allah … surely would prefer.

Woman wearing face-covering niqab/hijab


MORE CREEPING SHARIA

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46 Responses to “Female Muslim Suicides: Love in the Afterlife – or NOT”

  1. Grundoon Says:

    Just another example of the insecurity and childishness of the Muslim men.

  2. keeptonyblairforpm Says:

    There’s just SO much Muslims need to do to modernise their thinking, isn’t there? How on earth are they going to do it and live in modern secular communities if most of them continue to put up unquestioningly with archaic medieval nonsense such as this?

    It makes the Anglican Church’s concerns over homosexuals and women bishops look like childsplay.

  3. Arlene Says:

    What a dismal, wretched life for a Muslim girl or woman. What’s amazing is how these Muslim men will move their families to a democratic country like Britain or the USA and think these girls and women will not be influenced by Western values? Some Muslim women have escaped that hell on Earth or have died trying. The Honor Killings have followed them here. Where are all the women-righters in our democracies? Do they have their heads in the sand? There needs to be an end to Honor Killings.
    There is no such thing as honor in murder. Have you noticed there is absolutely no mention of love and devotion to a wife? There is no mention of love toward women at all. Again, we must count our blessings for living in a country where we allowed to love; to love whomever we wish. God, are we ever blessed!

  4. Arlene Says:

    I just read an article on Honor killings in Palestine. It would seem according to author Jim Emery at World and I on line, some girls and women who become pregnant are asked to blow themselves up. That would account for some of these female suicide bombers who were known to be pregnant. Saving the family honor? That would explain a lot.
    http://www.worldandi.com/newhome/public/2003/may/clpub.asp

  5. keeptonyblairforpm Says:

    Arlene,

    I can only assume that most modern Muslims living in the west completely disregard this nonsense. Having said that, WHY don’t they sort it out in their good books? This needs to be tackled. While this “scripture” exists and is used by some, it will always be seen as valid by fundamentalists. It will always be available on the back-burner of any “new” Islamic society – just in case needed – and ready to quell the fears of some in the west that we have lost our moral compass.

    Of course, we in the west haven’t lost the compass. It’s just that now and again it gets taken for a ride and needs a bit of time to re-calibrate.

    Perhaps we need to leave it behind for a bit and let Islam find it.

    Yes, the “love” thing is a good point. Perhaps some western Muslim woman can point us to a website which tells us more about this.

    Your Honour killings/suicide bombers link could be highly significant. It makes a lot of sense that this barbaric way of thinking would utilise “dishonour” in this way. Wonder if they do any post mortems on the recent suicide bombers?

    It seems to need a worldwide movement to free ALL WOMEN from barbaric Islamist fundamentalist.

    I imagine Cherie Blair knows this. She seems to work a lot with women’s organisations. Perhaps she needs to start a ‘Movement for Freedom in Religion & Society’ to work hand-in-hand with her husband’s Faith Foundation. Those two high-profile people seem to be as good an example as the west can provide of love & respect one for the other.

    As for the Right in the west – what about the LEFT? They were supposed to have been the great women’s libbers, if I recall the 1960s correctly. It wasn’t the Margaret Thatchers of this world who were looking after female rights, but those who today cry – “OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST!”

    Have these people NO idea what is going on?

    Have they never tried joining the dots?

  6. margaret walters Says:

    what i want to know is if a moslem woman is a widow has no living father or close male family what is she supposed to do then to get shelter and the necessities of life under moslem law.

  7. keeptonyblairforpm Says:

    I expect she “marries” Mohammed. After she’s had the operation, of course

    ;0)

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  9. ZAY Says:

    This is all fake! none of this is true about the real religion of islam! most of the things written here are fake. If you want to know the real religion of islam go read a book. not some stupid fake website

  10. keeptonyblairforpm Says:

    Hello Zay,

    By all means tell us that all of this is fake. By all means. You could then make your statement more credible and help us to understand this by referring to something to show that YOU are right though, as I try to do here when I take a certain position.

    You do realise that websites often, if not always, link to “books”.

    So isn’t your naive instruction to “read a book” a little narrow? Which book?

    And which websites are telling and showing us “fake” information? The ones showing REAL executions? These are all fake? The ones giving us news items from Iran about REAL executions? These are all fake? The instructions in the Koran about punishments under Sharia Law? These are all fake? The testimony of women who have suffered under Islam’s Sharia Law? These are all fake? The madmen who murder and terrorise under jihad’s ambitions and supposed instructions from Allah? These are all fake?

    There is far more likely to be a fake view issued in the contents of a “book” which by its nature takes a particular position, is fixed and thus not able to be altered or questioned as information develops to alter the stance of that “book”.

    I do not accept everything that appears on every website – not by a long stretch of the imagination. But where it differs from one individual’s “bookie” thoughts is that it will lead, by the grace of web links to “books” etc as well as news items to back up positions.

    Perhaps your faith in the static and fixed position of “books” says something about you, and not about those who question real news items, videos of decapitations, hangings and stonings

    But go ahead – I challenge you – show my readers where we have got it all wrong on this. Explain to us how the videos and news items referred to throughout the internet, are all invented.

    We are waiting to be convinced.

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