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The “whack-doodles” who want Tony Blair Sacked, Harangued, Hagued, Hanged…

June 27, 2014

27th June, 2014

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It must be almost seven years since I started pointing out to #twitternumptyland‘s misfits that Tony Blair is not and never has been the “Middle East Peace Envoy”. He is the Representative of the Quartet’s Envoys.

UN announcement, 27th June 2007:

To this end, Mr. Blair, who also stepped down as Prime Minister today, has been named Representative, a position in which he will “bring continuity and intensity of focus to the work of the Quartet in support of the Palestinians, within the broader framework of the Quartet’s efforts to promote an end to the conflict in conformity with the Roadmap.”

His duties will include mobilizing international assistance to the Palestinians and working closely with donors and others, as well as helping to identify and securing support in addressing the Palestinian state’s institutional governance needs.

In his new role, Mr. Blair – who be supported in his efforts by a small expert team based in Jerusalem – will also develop plans to promote Palestinian economic development and will communicate with other countries in support of agreed Quartet objectives.

He will “spend significant time in the region working with the parties and others to help create viable and lasting government institutions representing all Palestinians, a robust economy, and a climate of law and order for the Palestinian people,” the Quartet said.

For those who don’t recall or care that was the same day Mr Blair ceased to be Prime Minister. Seven years on much of the British media (and those on twitter who don’t research fully) still refer to him as “the Middle East peace envoy”. I suggest the stickiness of that misnomer has more to do with wishing him to fail and thus being in a position to say such failure was because he was ill-suited to “peace-making” in the first place.

I realise that being the Representative of the Quartet’s Envoys compared with being the Quartet’s envoy is a fine distinction for some. Of the order of comparison that being an accused prisoner is similar to being an accused prisoner’s legal representative. No?

In fact the constant muddling of these roles is central if you are ever tempted to RT or just copy automaton-like a “Sack Blair” or “Blair to the Hague” tweet.

Before I continue to irritate, I have to thank Mark Lott for the “whack-doodles” title. It applies neatly to such as Noam Chomsky, George Galloway, Ken Livingstone, George Monbiot, Clare Short, Tom Watson and Russell Brand.

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Even ‘The Brains’ Have Lost It

“Whack-doodles” also applies to people with quite a few brain cells, such as Stephen Fry, Sir Richard Dalton and former diplomat Oliver Miles.

Oliver Miles, if little else, sets the record straight in his video pour encourager les autres. A pity they didn’t change the title of the video too, as Mr Blair is an ineligible candidate for carting off to The Hague (for reasons kindly expanded on by Miles at the end of the video.)

Worth remembering: On 22 November 2009, Miles published an article in the Independent on Sunday, in which he partly questioned the appointment of two British historians to the Iraq inquiry panel because of their Jewish background and previous support for Israel. Oliver Miles has further form on criticising Blair and British foreign policy (2004 letter)

Of course we all realise that all of this Sack Blair business is going nowhere and is of no consequence. The haters are playing a game. They play like spoilt brats, in denial over anything Tony Blair does, did, didn’t do, might have done, could have done or should have done. Good or bad, they deny him any coherence of thought or integrity of strategic purpose. They suffer from a disease. Like a patient in an asylum they accuse the nurse of having their sickness.

So if Blair is not “bad” (via the unutterably bad George Galloway), he is “mad” (according to the slightly bonkers Boris Johnson); or at least “sad” (according to David Owen, the disappointed never was leader of the Labour party). And to add insult to injury, the former PM is now rich, which is the worst thing EVER for some of the left righteous.

Forget anything Blair ever did that was of any value for mankind. Forget that boys in Kosovo are named after him after he saved Kosovars from ethnic cleansing by Milosevic. Forget Sierra Leoneans love him after he stopped Liberia’s Charles Taylor’s limb-choppers (Taylor was sentenced to 50 years). Forget that Iraqi Kurds look up to him as a hero for removing Saddam. Forget the minimum wage, the peace settlement in Northern Ireland, devolution for Scotland & Wales,  equal rights. Blair did something the whack-doodles disagree with, so he is clearly material for their life-consuming revulsion.

Sacked, Harangued, Hagued and even Hanged

  • The call to “sack Blair” (disregarding the impossibility of sacking anyone from a job they don’t hold) I get.
  • The determination to pursue him to the end of his days I utterly detest, but it is par for the course for such as Monbiot and Galloway. So I get that too.
  • The invocation of an appearance at The Hague is no more than an eye-catching dream for haters. Thus I get that too.
  • But every time I see a violence-hating peace-lover say “hang Blair” I am repulsed. I see that far too often online and I blame those who say “he will never answer for his crimes”. If that’s the case, what to do, hmm? Incitement is a crime and such as Monbiot & Galloway should be up in court for it.  Jonathan Meades – whose “historical novel” would be The Trial and Execution of Tony Blair – normalises the unthinkable.

These recent articles are worth a read if you don’t think Blair should be Sacked, Harangued, Hagued or Hanged

Lord Campbell-Savours – Back-stabbing of Blair is vomit-inducing

“The idea that most of us supported intervention on the single justification of WMD is nonsense. Our concerns went far wider”

Robbie Travers – Intervening in Iraq was still the right thing to do

“Let’s be quite clear for the various Saddam nostalgists, fetishists, apologists and amorists: Saddam was far from just the leader of a totalitarian state, he was a genocidal megalomaniac who threatened to destabilise the security of the entire Middle East and was holding the world to ransom.”

John O’Sullivan – No, Tony Blair and the West Aren’t To Blame For Violence in the Muslim World

“But Blair is such a polarizing figure that whatever he says, half of the country will assert the opposite. In addition there is in Britain, as in much of the Western world, a masochistic appetite for self-blame and self-condemnation. For these two reasons it strikes many people as outrageous for Blair to claim that he is not responsible for Boko Haram’s kidnapping of schoolgirls or the murders of prisoners committed by ISIS.”

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A question for George Monbiot. Seriously. (Poll)

January 27, 2014

27th January 2014

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Dear Mr Monbiot (@GeorgeMonbiot)

What if Twiggy Garcia had been filled with revengeful hate when he stood behind Tony Blair at a restaurant last week?

What if… I don’t need to spell out the possibilities in gory deal; we all know they were in a steak restaurant.

As I reminded others here – you, George Monbiot, intend to hound Mr Blair until he is either prosecuted or is no longer with us.

You can write all the provisos, rules and opt-outs you like at your Arrest Blair website but you MUST know where this could lead. It IS a “bounty”, after all. Dead or alive, hmm?

So my question is: if some hater in a position to actually attack Mr Blair were able to do so, and admits having been inspired by you and your site, would you bear any responsibility?

I think you would.

What do others think?

Previous recent posts on this matter:

Arresting Times? Arrest the ignorant know-alls

Twiggy Garcia, aka Ghoulian Assange described the Police as sh**s

Enlightening James O’Brien; Arresting George Monbiot

Enlightening James O’Brien; Arresting George Monbiot

January 25, 2014

25th January 2014

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Arresting Times? Arrest the ignorant know-alls and Twiggy Garcia, aka Ghoulian Assange described the Police as sh**s

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I noticed on Friday morning that LBC  (London’s Biggest Conversation, radio) was doing a slot on the (failed) “citizen’s arrest” of Tony Blair. James O’Brien (twitter handle @) was at the helm.

It still surprises me how quite a few broadcasters and even some printed journalists seem to be unaware of so many important issues.  Mr O’Brien admitted on his radio programme that he hadn’t heard anything about Twiggy Garcia’s attempt to do his master’s bidding (George Monbiot – the Bounty Hunter who hides behind useful idiots). “Moonbat” as he is known to some thinks Mr Blair should be hounded until the day he dies (and after, if at all possible).  Don’t believe me? Keep reading…

But I found James O’Brien to be very fair-minded. He said he had agreed with the Iraq invasion at the start but had changed his mind. That is the opposite of my position. That’s no more than an academic point, but perhaps it shows that minds can change both ways. I hope he is not upset by the title of this article. Mr O’Brien is clearly an educated man, but perhaps, like many, not all that au fait with the Blair and Iraq business and the complexities surrounding.

I thought it might be helpful if Mr O’Brien were allowed to see the balancing argument FOR Tony Blair and the Iraq invasion and AGAINST such as Moonbat & The Anti-Warriors. Hmm… that sounds like a good name for a band. I’m sure DJ Twiggy would give them an airing.

First, the case AGAINST Monbiot & Ghoulian Assange (aka Twiggy Garcia)

UNTIL HE (BLAIR) DIES

I fully recognise that many people, perhaps even a majority, disagree/d with the Iraq invasion. However very few people have felt the need to take the law into their own hands. Bellowing repeatedly their “everyone knows” opinions online suffices for most.

Monbiot’s approach is different and far more dangerous and I contend it is high time his antics were stopped before they have consequences which, as some might say on other matters, can easily be foreseen. As I pointed out here a citizen’s arrest DID NOT apply in that barman’s last fling.

Four years ago I wrote this post – Arrest George Monbiot for his ‘Bounty’/Incitement to Murder Tony Blair. I referred to this statement at Monbiot’s Arrest Blair website:

Monbiot: “The fund will remain open for as long as Mr Blair lives, or until he is officially prosecuted. If it still contains money after his death or prosecution, the remainder will be donated to one or more organisations campaigning for international justice, or used to pursue other people responsible for the Iraq war.”

The fund will remain open until Mr Blair is officially prosecuted. If it still contains money after his prosecution or after five years have elapsed since the last attempt to arrest him, the remainder will be donated to one or more organisations campaigning for international justice, or used to pursue other people responsible for the Iraq war. You will be welcome to nominate recipients. – See more at: http://www.arrestblair.org/#sthash.dsi2E5xy.dpuf
The fund will remain open until Mr Blair is officially prosecuted. If it still contains money after his prosecution or after five years have elapsed since the last attempt to arrest him, the remainder will be donated to one or more organisations campaigning for international justice, or used to pursue other people responsible for the Iraq war. You will be welcome to nominate recipients. – See more at: http://www.arrestblair.org/#sthash.dsi2E5xy.dpuf

As long as Mr Blair lives, eh? The keen-eyed among you will notice that the wording has now been altered somewhat. Dare I suggest due to my (and others’) campaign AGAINST Monbiot’s campaign?

It now says “the fund will remain open until Mr Blair is officially prosecuted”. Hmm. Less threatening, perhaps, but that could mean the fund will remain open forever. Sometimes I wish I had a touch of the Monbiot omnipotence.

(Screenshot below from the Arrest Blair website, as at 24 January 2014. Why a screenshot? Well, Monbiot has disabled copying!) Warning: text and silly pictures are liable to change without reference to such updates, explanation, apologies or dates. Ironic, some might say.

copying text has been disabled at Monbiot's site. Well, fancy! Save this text as a jpg, as I have.

Please note: copying text has been disabled at Monbiot’s site. Well, fancy! Save this text as a jpg, as I have. Useful for future reference, aka evidence.

In case you think I must be wrong re Monbiot’s copy disabling, I’ve just checked the source code. It shows this: <script type=… doNotCopy…/script>

In the above screenshot you will notice that Monbiot wishes others to try to “arrest” Blair even if only for the money. This high-principled position is somewhat out of my sphere of familiarity, I’m afraid. I’ve never been into accusing others of high crimes and misdemeanours or of putting myself or others in danger for the sake of a few dollars.

BOUNTY / EXCEPTIONALISM

According to his original post – “A Bounty for Blair’s Arrest” – Monbiot launched his website “today” 25th January 2010. In fact he altered it shortly after first publication to say this: “the bounties will remain available for as long as Blair lives.” (My bolding)

It has been altered again, possibly several times, and now only makes a reference to “five years” from the date of the last arrest attempt. Does anyone in their right mind think it acceptable that until January 2019 people are being encouraged – yes ENCOURAGED – (come and grab the money) to harass a former Prime Minister? Or to harass ANYONE, come to that? Yet this is precisely what Monbiot is doing and the supposedly “balanced” world turns a blind eye. Why on earth do we do that? Would we ignore such threats to anyone else? I think not. It is my argument that Tony Blair is the subject of unique exceptionalism in this country.

He is the exception to this:

  • No-one can be subjected to harassment without accounting for such harassment. Even the courts today, at last, are clamping down on twitter harassment and jailing such abusers. Monbiot’s site is in the same category (if put a touch more politely).
  • No-one is guilty of any “crime” until so proven in a court of law.

Monbiot openly stated that it was a “bounty”, which as I pointed out here means (in most people’s wild west reference) “dead or alive”. Right from the start Monbiot added man-hunting to bribery. And he has never changed the tenor of his aims, though presumably legal advice has moved him to alter the wording.

Secondly, the case FOR the Iraq Invasion and Tony Blair’s decisions. Decision backed by Parliament

1. Why The Iraq War Was Legal, from “Back to the Legality Argument” – … all arrangements between Saddam and the international community, after 1991, were based on a ceasefire, explicitly tied to Iraq’s disarmament. In particular Resolution 678, the legal basis for military action during the first Gulf war, and Resolution 687, which determined the conditions for the ceasefire between the UN and Iraq, were extremely important. Both were never revoked and authorisation to use force remained in being throughout the years and was also the legal basis for actions in 1993 and 1998.

So why not in 2003?

Furthermore, the legal advisor to the UN, Dr. Carl August Fleischhauer, confirmed that the original authority to use force in UNSCR 678 could revive, given the Security Council’s agreement that a violation of the ceasefire was in place. (more)

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2. Hans Blix to Chilcot – I like most people felt that Iraq retains WMDs

Excerpt:  On his view about Saddam’s WMDs

It seemed plausible to me at the time, and I also felt — I, like most people at the time, felt that Iraq retains weapons of mass destruction. I did not say so publicly. I said it perhaps to Mr Blair in September 2002 privately.

I talked to Prime Minister Blair on 20 February 2002 and then I said I still thought that there were prohibited items in Iraq.

In other words, Blair and Bush believed what everyone believed for very good reasons.

Blix also said, “I have never questioned the good faith of Mr Blair or Bush or anyone else.”

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3. Where 45 mins came fromUnholy trinity: BND, Curveball, Iraq

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Since there is no point reinventing the wheel I’d like to refer you here for more considered information on the Iraq decisions. (From Julie, @MsIntervention)

Julie’s “Humanitarian Intervention Centre” recently presented papers to the House of Commons Defence Select Committee. See here – Political dimension of interventions and Legal dimension of interventions

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Another noteworthy matter: Monbiot no longer takes comments at his arresting site. I cannot imagine why not, Mr Monbiot.

Arrest Blair for crimes against peace

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Amount in the pot at 20.01.14: £8,890.18

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Second payment to David Cronin: £2,801.98
Third payment to Kate O’Sullivan: £3,129.02
Fourth payment to Tom Grundy: £2,420.89

Blair must face justice

This site offers a reward to people attempting a peaceful citizen’s arrest of the former British prime minister, Tony Blair, for crimes against peace. Anyone attempting an arrest which meets the rules laid down here will be entitled to one quarter of the money collected at the time of his or her application.

Money donated to this site will be used for no other purpose than to pay bounties for attempts to arrest Tony Blair. All the costs of administering this site will be paid by the site’s founder.*

The intention is to encourage repeated attempts to arrest the former prime minister. We have four purposes:

– To remind people that justice has not yet been done.

– To show Mr Blair that, despite his requests for people to “move on” from Iraq, the mass murder he committed will not be forgotten.

– To put pressure on the authorities of the United Kingdom and the countries he travels through to prosecute him for a crime against peace, or to deliver him for prosecution to the International Criminal Court.

– To discourage other people from repeating his crime.

We have no interest in people’s motivation, as long as they follow the rules laid down by this site. If they try to arrest Mr Blair because they care about the people he has killed, so much the better. But if they do it only for the money, that is fine too, and we will have encouraged an attempt which would not otherwise have taken place.

The higher the bounty, the more people are likely to try to arrest Mr Blair. Please remember that the account will remain open, regardless of how many have already claimed a reward, so new donations will continue to encourage have-a-go heroes.

If you are giving money to this fund, please be aware that, in the interests of transparency, we cannot accept any donation of £1000 or greater unless the giver is happy for their identity to be made public. This is a principle we feel should apply to all organisations that engage in public advocacy.

If, beyond 31st December 2010, a bounty is claimed when the total fund has fallen below £500, the successful claimant will take the whole pot, which we will then seek to replenish. The fund will remain open until Mr Blair is officially prosecuted. If it still contains money after his prosecution or after five years have elapsed since the last attempt to arrest him, the remainder will be donated to one or more organisations campaigning for international justice, or used to pursue other people responsible for the Iraq war. You will be welcome to nominate recipients.

*This does not include any charges added to your donations by Paypal, Tipit or the other banking services you might use, and tax or legal costs.

The fund will remain open until Mr Blair is officially prosecuted. If it still contains money after his prosecution or after five years have elapsed since the last attempt to arrest him, the remainder will be donated to one or more organisations campaigning for international justice, or used to pursue other people responsible for the Iraq war. You will be welcome to nominate recipients. – See more at: http://www.arrestblair.org/#sthash.N03FtQzg.dpuf

– See more at: http://www.arrestblair.org/#sthash.N03FtQzg.dpuf

The fund will remain open until Mr Blair is officially prosecuted. If it still contains money after his prosecution or after five years have elapsed since the last attempt to arrest him, the remainder will be donated to one or more organisations campaigning for international justice, or used to pursue other people responsible for the Iraq war. You will be welcome to nominate recipients. – See more at: http://www.arrestblair.org/#sthash.N03FtQzg.dpuf
The fund will remain open until Mr Blair is officially prosecuted. If it still contains money after his prosecution or after five years have elapsed since the last attempt to arrest him, the remainder will be donated to one or more organisations campaigning for international justice, or used to pursue other people responsible for the Iraq war. You will be welcome to nominate recipients. – See more at: http://www.arrestblair.org/#sthash.N03FtQzg.dpuf

By the way I noticed that Monbiot didn’t have much to say on twitter re his chat with James O’Brien this morning.

Lost for words, eh, Mr Monbiot?

And so you should be. You are an inciter, thus very dangerous and an abuser of your position in the media.

Twiggy Garcia, aka Ghoulian Assange described the Police as sh**s

January 23, 2014

23rd January 2014

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NOTE THE WORDS OF A MAN WHO WANTED TO MARCH A BRITISH HERO TO A POLICE STATION

Excerpt from Garcia’s chat with his girlfriend @GeorgiaBronte

If you saw him again would you do anything differently?
I’d probably get someone to film it. I was scared to get my phone out in case it was confiscated by his bodyguards. The police have held my phone for five months before when I had done nothing illegal. They are shits.

I fully realise that some people today would have sympathy with this description. But it is perhaps not quite the thing to say if you ever intended to “accompany” an “arrested” individual to the local cop shop. And if you never intended to do so anyway, don’t act like a big kid show-off. That’s you, Mr Garcia.

TonyBlair&Twiggy2faulta10getsaddam

Unlike Mr Blair’s considerate treatment of this individual in the restaurant I have no inclination to treat Garcia with anything approaching courtesy. He is testament, however to at least two things: firstly, the failure of Tony Blair’s ‘education, education, education’ policy. Secondly, Garcia’s self-appointed guardian-of-the-people-and-defender-of-the-truth behaviour is also testament to the failure of the media, mainly the written press to concede that they may – just may – be wrong in all they opine about Blair and Iraq.  The media is the conduit of ALL our opinions. It was noticeable in the last few days that only non-British media outlets noted which of these two men came out with egg on his face at Tramshed.

Clue? It wasn’t the diner.

Tom Doran (twitter) says of Tony Blair’s reaction: Even though he’s probably used to it by now, this is an impressively sanguine reaction to being called a war criminal by a total stranger in front of your children, as even Garcia himself semi-concedes (“Tony Blair Vs Brave Sir Robin”).

I don’t agree with every aspect of the article. I DO believe the Iraq invasion was the right thing to do for all sorts of reasons, regardless of how many people sectarian, Islamist fundamentalists have killed there since. But Mr Doran’s main point is that Mr Garcia was more of a Monty Python character than a Robin Hood.
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I expect Ghoulian Assange (yes, that’s what he calls himself on twitter) will  prove me wrong now by donating to charity all the monies Mr George Monbiot (the Bounty Hunter who sends others to do his dirty work) has sent to him. No?
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EU Audio-Visual: Tony Blair at Brussels meeting, Monday 22nd March 2010

March 25, 2010
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    Former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair was in the EU Parliament on Monday 22 March to talk about Palestine

    Above picture from here – ‘Three questions to Tony Blair at EU parliament’

    Former British premier Tony Blair, who is the special envoy for the Middle East Quartet of the EU attends a Development Committee hearing on the Palestinian territories at the EU Parliament headquarters in Brussels, March 22. Blair warned Iran the world will do "whatever it takes" to stop it acquiring a nuclear weapon. (AFP/John Thys)

    Three videos on the Blair visit.

    The main one, the discussion between Mr Blair and MEPs is very interesting. But since many of you will be desperate to see little David slaying the Giant before the latter had a chance to address the MEPs here is this one first (more information here.)

    [Tony BLAIR, Middle East Quartet Representative arrival at the Justus Lipsius for the Foreign Affairs Council: – extracts.]

    Well?!? It did say “extracts”.

    I thought Goliath managed to speak reasonably well at the meeting afterwards, considering.

    He was clearly in pieces after Cronin’s bit of fun and games –

    Tony Blair smiles after he delivered a speech during a press conference after his working session with EU foreign ministers at the EU Commission on March 22, 2010 in Brussels. (Photo credit – GEORGES GOBET/AFP/Getty Images)

    MAIN MEETING

    In the margins of the Council, Foreign Affairs Ministers, gathered in Brussels, will discuss the Middle East Peace Process in the presence of International Quartet Envoy, Tony Blair.

    Q & A session with Mr Blair (Almost an hour of questions/answers)

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    EPRef-69181 | 22/03/2010 | 00:56:51

    RECORDED EP Committee on Development
    Exchange of views with Tony BLAIR, Special Envoy for the Middle East Quartet and other representatives on “Palestine, Bridge Building and Development”

    You will notice that Mr Blair listens to some French speakers and then he responds in English. I’m not sure how many of our present UK or even EU parliamentarians would have that facility.

    Still the same old self-depracatory style – (much missed by many of us.)

    “Thank you for calling me an excellent diplomat. It’s better than a lot of things that I have been called.”

    Press briefing

    This 3mins 28secs press briefing followed his meeting with the EU Foreign Affairs Council.

    Index of EU Audio-Visual Service (Credit : © European Union, 2010.)


    Thursday? It must be China

    Chinese Vice Premier Li Keqiang shakes hands with visiting former British Prime Minister Tony Blair in Beijing, March 25. (Xinhua Photo)

    Chinese Vice Premier Li Keqiang met with former British Prime Minister Tony Blair on Thursday, hoping China and Britain could further boost cooperation and mutual trust.

    During his meeting with Blair, Li said China and Britain were both influential countries in the world and should take the opportunity to increase cooperation and mutual trust, which would benefit the two countries as well as the world.

    China would unswervingly follow the path of peaceful development and pursue a win-win strategy of opening-up, and actively participate in international cooperation on tackling the global financial crisis, climate change and health care, said Li.

    Li appreciated Blair’s efforts to “advance China-Britain relations,” and said he hoped the former British prime minister would continue to play an active role in promoting exchange and cooperation between China and western countries.


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    George Monbiot (the “terrorist”) on Tony Blair – his life and death

    March 25, 2010
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    But first …

    WHAT IS TERRORISM TODAY?

    Believe it or not its definition is not yet agreed worldwide. That’s because your terrorist is my freedom fighter and vice versa. Tony Blair is my freedom fighter. Those who oppose his decisions and actions in Iraq are, by extension, terrorists.

    Simplistic? Far-fetched? Maybe, but that is exactly how Monbiot and Cronin think  – only the other way round. And we can perhaps work out who are THEIR freedom fighters. For Cronin, for one  – it might well be Saddam or insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan. According to this he has a soft spot for Milosevic.  Are their heroes also those who oppose worldwide democracy?

    TERRORISM TODAY IS MORE THAN JUST PHYSICAL

    I suggest TERRORISM TODAY is more than a physical attack. It is also the harassment of a group or an individual.  It is the influence of a politically-agenda’d, ingenuous, lying, duplicitous, opining press. And the false ‘certainties’ of the ignorant on the all-pervasive internet. It is also the disparagement of democracy epitomised by self-selected individuals on a ‘quest’ to take on at any and every level those who are elected to make political decisions. They are the chosen few. Those who speak for you and for me on democratic accountability, don’t you know?

    All of these add to the poisonous mix in the press and the online world. The press today has no sense of balance in its comment publication, or of responsibility in its freedom to incite in its reportage.

    I suggest that TERRORISM TODAY is to be seen in the relentless haranguing of ANY individual over a difference of political opinion. The constant and persistent vilification of those of whom they disapprove for a multitude of reasons. The hollow cries of  “we are helpless against such powerful evil” so therefore we have to summarily “dispense justice”. The ‘Blair lied, people died’, widespread, easy cliché.

    The talk and/or suggestion of meting out “due justice”, however, wherever and whenever, is a worrying development and can be read all over today’s internet seemingly uncensored by editors.

    That’s TERRORISM TODAY. It is not democracy nor is it responsible behaviour. In many countries it would not even be lawful.

    HANG ON – WHAT ABOUT THE UN SC MANDATE ON IRAQ?!

    TERRORISM TODAY is also the failure to acknowledge the fact that many wars have been fought without UN mandates, and have been considered successful and morally justified. It is about the failure to understand that “international law” is fluid in interpretation and always has been. The failure to notice that China and Russia, for their own highly politicised reasons, often fail to support other UN members. The failure to notice the fact that attack as defence needs no mandate from the Security Council.  Or the resultant question, if it is argued that a mandate should always be required, as to whether the UNSC was facing its “responsibility to protect” by ignoring Saddam’s facedown of 12 years of Security Council mandates. Or the fact that credibility in their integrity was invested by politicians in earlier SC resolutions. If earlier UNSC resolutions are not to be trusted, what/who CAN we trust?

    There is also the simple fact, and the failure to notice, that most of the deaths in Iraq were caused by locally based insurgents and not western forces. An inconvenient truth.

    [See UN & International Law argument here]

    The trouble with the “let’s get him” crowd, is their inability to recognise their own prejudices as well as their deep ignorance of law and politics. That and their dangerous efforts to down and drown democracy and the rule of law they purport to support. And today, what is their weapon of choice to down democracy? Not the ballot box, though they will soon enough have that opportunity. It is the Citizen’s Arrest.

    A CITIZEN’S ARREST IS A MEDIEVAL TOOTHLESS TIGER, AS IT SHOULD BE


    IT’S NOT DEMOCRACY THEY’RE GUNNING FOR, IT’S BLAIR

    Gunning for Blair is the same thing as gunning for democracy. He was the three times elected prime minister. He led the government of this country and was even re-elected in 2005 two years after the Iraq war had started. THAT was his mandate. He, in fact, should still be prime minister today.

    In the pursuit of Tony Blair by peace ‘n’ lovin’ anti-Iraq war ignoramuses the embodiment of this kind of TERRORISM TODAY is the citizen’s arrest. It is a toothless tiger. A device from medieval days, when police were few and far between, it has no place in today’s society.

    These arresters, or pretend policemen, are using this as their weapon of choice because they think that Mr Blair has escaped “justice”. And yet he has been found guilty of nothing. He has not even been tried for anything, nor is likely to be (see here for the ICC’s opinion.)

    I would lay a bet with you that many of these people would campaign on behalf of the human rights of the foreigner Binyam Mohammed, while they also campaign to bring a former British prime minister to court. They’d be against the evil Mossad spies who purportedly killed the Gaza Hamas leader, poor innocent. They’d be supporting any human rights claim by any suspected home-trained terrorist in the Midlands, because the poor kid was “provoked” by British foreign policy.

    THEY, Monbiot and Cronin included, I suspect, are the enemy within, and they are hailed as heroes by our country’s real enemies.

    The medieval mentality of these proponents of TODAY’S TERRORISM is such that if an incident at such an arrest of Mr Blair were to result in his falling and being fatally injured, they’d likely yell in harmony – “All Hail, the King is dead”.

    ‘WASN’T ME, GUV’

    Monbiot’s get out of jail card is their ‘hands off him’ instruction to their followers at his little hell-hole for defenders of ‘international law’, whatever that is. Their trump card is designed to ward off any comeback from such a resultant, unfortunate occurrence. Designed to keep their hands off any responsibility.

    Monbiot reminds his force of the willing here

    ‘But we emphasise again: do not use any methods which could be construed as violent. The founders of this campaign cannot be held responsible if you do not abide by this rule.’

    Can they/you not be held responsible, Mr Monbiot? Are you sure? Even if, like Cronin, any unfortunate accused in such circumstances says that your campaign “inspired” them?

    Pretending policemen like this should remember it can all go horribly wrong. A worse scenario for them (though not necessarily for ALL of us) is that Blair’s security forces, especially if outside of Britain, might shoot first and ask questions later.

    In the Graniaud Cronin tries to explain why he made this infantile attempt.

    Something to do with noticing the ‘glow from Blair’s tan’.  Evidently a red flag to this green-eyed bull. I notice that he has dropped the ‘blank and quizzical’ expression he originally used when he performed his ‘brave’ act. Now Blair’s expression is described as a ‘blend of puzzlement and contempt.’

    Perhaps Cronin read my criticism of his lack of facility with language here earlier. It matches his lack of facility with just about everything else, imho.

    DO FAIR-MINDED PEOPLE REALLY THINK THIS HOUNDING OF BLAIR IS FAIR?

    How would YOU, Cronin and Monbiot, like to be told that possibly for the rest of your life you will be pursued by bloodthirsty nincompoops who think they understand politics, but who actually understand zilch? How would you like to be pursued by even those who DO understand politics? In both cases this is not on.

    Monbiot AND Cronin are, imho, TODAY’S TERRORISTS.  It cannot be right that they think they have the right to constantly harass any individual, whether ‘powerful’ or not, for as long as it takes to get their pound of flesh.

    There have now been a couple of failed attempts at arresting Tony Blair. They will ALL fail because they have no basis in law. And yet Tony Blair and his family are expected to brush these puerile arrest threats aside as though they are of no consequence.  They are of consequence.  It is horrifying that such as Mail commenters (Cronin thinks Tories are all wallies, btw) should egg him on with screams of “justice for Blair”, with often only half-hidden suggestions as to which sort of “justice” they’re after.

    But even Monbiot now realises he is on a sticky wicket.



    WHERE WAS I BEFORE I STARTED TO RANT ON?

    Right.

    George Monbiot has been re-thinking his language at his original Arrest Blair website. Hopefully it won’t be long before he re-thinks the whole sorry site.

    The wording at arrestblair.org at its launch originally said this – (my italics and underscoring):

    “The fund will remain open for as long as Mr Blair lives, or until he is officially prosecuted. If it still contains money after his death or prosecution, the remainder will be donated to one or more organisations campaigning for international justice, or used to pursue other people responsible for the Iraq war.”

    I copied and pasted it here into my site when I called for the arrest of Monbiot for incitement to murder Mr Blair.

    Now this particular section at the Arrest Blair site has been altered to:

    “The fund will remain open until Mr Blair is officially prosecuted. If it still contains money after his prosecution or after five years have elapsed since the last attempt to arrest him, the remainder will be donated to one or more organisations campaigning for international justice, or used to pursue other people responsible for the Iraq war.”

    SMALL VICTORIES

    The references to life and death have been removed. I won’t claim credit for this as I was not the only one who thought he was inciting the murder of Mr Blair.  Apart from that my task is only partly done.  Monbiot hasn’t yet been arrested. But his hang-ups on the length of Mr Blair’s life (and on his death) were clear to most of the right-minded. Even some at Cif got it. Monbiot has now also made this time-specific – “…or after five years have elapsed since the last attempt to arrest him.”

    Removing ‘for as long as Mr Blair lives’ AND ‘after his death’ are steps towards staying within the law. Someone has been giving someone legal advice.

    With these alterations Mr Blair only has to survive five years after not being accosted by a pretend police constable to feel he can finally go for a walk in his own country minus a phalanx of bodyguards, without fear of being leapt upon.

    STOP TERRORISING BLAIR AND HIS FAMILY

    I am not suggesting that Mr Blair himself has any personal fears over these silly buggers. It probably hardly touches his radar.  In a way his personal fears are beside the point, anyway. He is well-protected. But he has a family to consider and the safety of those around him. Another attempt may produce a more determined response from his security people.  You can be sure that now after Cronin, the newly banned press man, there will be security discussions on all of this.

    Two comments at The Mail show the slippery slope Monbiot and his ilk are encouraging people to slide on. (My highlights.)

    All that VERY EXPENSIVE SECURITY, breached by one man. It will only take one ‘person’ to see him never stand trial! Think about that Tony old sun.Your millions (and the taxpayer funded security)will not save you from ONE determined individual. Sleep well that night did you?

    – Dragonhead, Dalian,China, 24/3/2010 1:46

    And…

    Wouldn’t it be absolutely marvellous if someone tried the same thing on ‘Bliar’ at every function in every country he visits. Maybe then this smug, self-serving. lying, disgusting piece of trash would get the message – he IS responsible for the deaths of young British soldiers. What made Sadaam Hussein more of a tyrant than Mugabe? OIL. The world will be a better place when this ‘peace envoy’ is no longer in it!

    – Robert Rees, London UK, 24/3/2010 9:27

    Personally I would not be too upset if a would-be policeman, ‘one person’ or a tyrant spotter were punched on the obnoxious, ignorant nose by a security guard. And if they carry a weapon, shoot the bastards! The world would be a better place when these confused halfwits understand where their loyalties should lie. With THIS country and its democracy for all its faults.

    This blood lust for Blair the “war criminal” is an extraordinary state of affairs and must not be allowed to continue.

    No-one, former prime minister or you or me … NO-ONE should be harangued, maligned, vilified, persecuted, pursued and TERRORISED for the rest of their lives. Nor, as in Blair’s case until his pursuers think it is time to give up trying to prosecute him. This kind of TERRORISM does terrorise, and it limits the lives of more than the intended victim. Apart from that such fears, if they exist in Blair’s personal security people, are preventing others from seeing a great statesman and former prime minister in public in OUR OWN COUNTRY. For all our sakes the pretend cops have to give it up. If they don’t, this course of action will lead them somewhere they really don’t want to go.

    By the way, this is from Monbiot’s original press release on his website on 25th January, 2010. You can still see his reference to Mr Blair’s lifespan. Suggestive? I think so.

    http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2010/01/25/a-bounty-for-blairs-arrest/

    “So today I am launching a website, http://www.arrestblair.org, whose purpose is to raise money as a reward for people attempting a peaceful citizen’s arrest of the former prime minister. I have put up the first £100, and I encourage you to match it. Anyone meeting the rules I’ve laid down will be entitled to one quarter of the total pot: the bounties will remain available for as long as Blair lives. The higher the reward, the greater the number of people who are likely to try.”

    ENOUGH, MONBIOT. Pack it in. Before someone gets hurt.

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    Monbiot has added this update to his site here:

    UPDATE:

    A film crew has been in touch. It would like to follow anyone who is considering making a citizens arrest of Tony Blair. If you wish to put yourself forward, please write to us via the Contact page and we will forward your details, in confidence, to the crew.

    Thanks for the invite, but I think I’ll pass on that one, Monbiot. I prefer my freedom.




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    Honestly, it’s tough to know where to start with this one. Paragraph by paragraph or line by line? It’s ALL so easily dissected, chewed up and spat out, to mix metaphors. Following on from my post yesterday on this Guardian scribbler – Guardian, war criminal, Blair, Guardian, Cifers, citizen’s arrest, Guardian, Cronin, anti-free market, Milosevic, EU

    CRONIN’S CANT:

    “George Monbiot, the environmentalist and founder of the Arrest Blair campaign, has indicated to me that I am eligible to a share of a bounty he has collected (after I go through a verification process).”

    CRONIN COULDN’T:

    “Mr Blair, this is a citizen’s arrest,” I said.  For a split second, he looked directly at me, treating me to an expression that seemed both blank and quizzical.

    BLAIR’S EXPRESSION WAS BLANKLY QUIZZICAL … er … QUIZZICALLY BLANK!?

    “Blank and quizzical”? Make up your mind, man!  You purport to be a writer!?

    Before you waste a minute or three of your life reading his exhortation as to why HE was on his quest (even dung beetles have a useful purpose) to arrest Tony Blair, let me list just a few reasons HIS CANT IS ALL “CAN’T”:

    1. Citizens’ arrests cannot be made with a policemen in the vicinity. (Otherwise the police would be cuffing the ‘villain’ themselves. And if they don’t, you the ‘injured’ suspicious citizen MUST ask them to, because of the terrifying and threatening villainy of the villain!) PLEASE NOTE: Tony Blair is always protected by security AND police, albeit in plain clothes. Protected. NEVER under threat of arrest.

    2. The ICC has already investigated the possibility of charging Mr Blair, following calls from those who know nothing, and care less for Iraq and Iraqis (mostly Cifers, presumably.) The ICC has decided there is no case to answer (See here) Precis:

    • A court has to determine if the ‘crime’ falls within its jurisdiction, and the threshold is very high.
    • Rendition? This may be a crime, say legal experts, but probably not on the scale of a war crime, or crime against humanity.
    • For the ICC to prosecute charges of torture, unlawful transfer or wilful killing, they must be committed as part of a policy that is executed on a wide scale.  “With the ICC what we’re looking at is a government or regional organization that has sat down and said we’re going to do ‘x’ against civilians or non combatants, and we’re going to kill them in a systematic way,” says Professor David Crane, the former chief prosecutor of the Special Court for Sierra Leone.  “It has to be a government policy to do harm to human beings that don’t have a right to be harmed.”
    • While there had been wilful killings and inhuman treatment, he said, the number of incidents was comparatively small. Nor was there evidence of a policy by the British government to deliberately target civilians, or of civilian death and destruction clearly excessive of the military advantage achieved.
    • The ICC inspectorate also noted that national courts were dealing with the relevant Iraqi cases.
    • In the British justice system the first thing the prosecutor would still do is go to the British authorities and say look here’s the information I have, what have you done, or what do you intend to do about it. So even if they had previously refused to do anything about it, he would still give them the chance to do something now. That would be the first step.”

    3. Crime Against Peace? (Peace? In Iraq? Under Saddam?)

    That odd twisting of reality and history aside, this is from the site to which you, Cronin, directed your readers:

    ‘An important exception to the foregoing are defensive military actions taken under Article 51 of the UN Charter. Such defensive actions are subject to immediate Security Council review, but do not require UN permission to be legal within international law. “Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations.” (UN Charter, Article 51) The legal argument centres around whether or not the Security Council’s earlier resolutions conferred the  legally the “right of individual or collective self-defence”, or it may appoint another UN organ to do this.’

    4. Tatchell? Mugabe? If we haven’t managed to indict the Zimbabwean leader, (and Mugabe and Blair loathe each other more even than Cronin hates Blair), what chance has this journalist got to arrest a good man like Blair? Think yourself lucky, Mr Cronin, that Mr Blair’s bodyguards are more tolerant of this kind of one-man-bandmanship than were Mugabe’s. Tells you everything you need to know about freedom and Blair’s protection force. No? It should.

    5. Grace McCann did not get anywhere NEAR trying to arrest Blair on January 29th. Though she got money from Monbiot for being filmed telling a policeman she wanted to perform the arrest. You have no picture of yourself in the “act” and are therefore are NOT eligible for your cut.

    6. Over one million dead in Iraq? If it was ONE dead it would still be a crime, presumably – IF the invasion were illegal, which it isn’t. The numbers are hugely and widely disputed. Apart from the differing numbers there is also the uncomfortable FACT that even today it is INSURGENTS and not allied (now only American) forces doing the killing. Killing their own in other words, because YOU, Cronin, are fooled by their propaganda. So they keep doing it.  Suicide bombers? Ever heard of them? Iraqis/Iranians and others in the region are the killers.

    7. Tony Blair did not lie and moreover has not been proven to have lied. If the Iraq Inquiry suggests there is proof he did, then it’s a different story and may be looked at at that stage. The Iraq panel are presently considering the entire body of evidence, unlike yourself, Cronin.

    8. Blair’s Middle East envoy post. Satire? No. If so he would not have been promoted to a political role recently and you would have heard the Palestinians complain about him right from Day One. He has been promoted and you haven’t heard ANYONE in Palestinian positions of authority who are unhappy with his efforts.

    By the way, do you realise this, Mr Cronin:

    YOU, PERSONALLY, COULD BE CHARGED WITH UNLAWFUL ARREST

    (More on that is also pasted here at end of page)

    David Cronin’s article follows:

    By David Cronin

    A short while ago, I got up close and personal with Tony Blair.

    As the former prime minister made his way into a packed committee room in the European Parliament, I stepped up to him and laid my hand on his arm. “Mr Blair, this is a citizen’s arrest,” I said.
    For a split second, he looked directly at me, treating me to an expression that seemed both blank and quizzical. Then I was pushed away firmly, though not too aggressively, by one of the phalanx of body guards surrounding him. “You are guilty of war crimes,” I shouted after him, adrenaline giving me the kind of high I haven’t experienced in years.

    I had prepared a more lengthy speech about how I believed Blair should be prosecuted for authorising the war against Iraq as this involved crimes against peace and the crime of aggression. I had also intended to invite him to accompany me to the nearest police station so that I could file a criminal charge against him.
    Yet to no surprise, I did not get a chance to recite these arguments and to test out my hastily acquired knowledge of the Nuremberg principles that were set down following the Second World War and the more recent Rome statute (the agreement under which the International Criminal Court was founded).

    I will happily admit that my attempt was the work of a copycat. A woman named Grace McCann made a more daring effort to apprehend Blair as he left the Chilcot inquiry in January. And Peter Tatchell suffered permanent damage to his health when he was beaten up by thugs shielding Robert Mugabe as he tried to hold the Zimbabwean autocrat to account for human rights abuses in 2001.
    I guess that I could invoke Oscar Wilde’s defence of plagiarism – “talent borrows, genius steals” – but it would be more honest to say that I could not think of a more original method of protest.

    Although I passionately concur that Blair must be tried at some point for lying to Britain and the world about his motivations for joining George Bush’s offensive against Iraq and for helping to cause the deaths of possibly one million Iraqis, there are several other offences for which he should be tried.
    His similarly gung-ho enthusiasm for the war in Afghanistan; his refusal to condemn Israeli atrocities during its 2006 attacks in Lebanon; his acceptance of Israeli settlements in the West Bank; his approval of the use of cluster bombs during NATO’s bombardment of Serbia in 1999 are all despicable and worthy of criminal investigations.

    More generally, I am tired of the notion (rarely questioned among the media or political elite here in Brussels and some other European capitals) that war crimes are only committed by men with names that westerners have trouble pronouncing or by ‘savages’ in distant lands.
    I fully support the work of the International Criminal Court but am outraged that all of the indictments it has issued have been against Africans. And why have all the proceedings relating to atrocities in the former Yugoslavia been against Serbs and Croats and Bosnians? Were the NATO forces that relentlessly bombed Serbia incapable of committing crimes?

    I am troubled, too, about how Blair is now an international envoy to the Middle East. The film-maker Ken Loach has pithily explained the absurdity of that appointment. “They say that satire died when Henry Kissinger was given the Nobel Peace Prize,” Loach told a little-reported event in Brussels last year. “Well, it died again when Tony Blair was appointed a special representative for the Middle East.”
    To prove just how unworthy of that job he is, Blair has only visited Gaza twice since he took up the role of envoy in 2007. And he has kept largely mum about the expulsion of Palestinians from their homes in East Jerusalem, even though he can see some of the houses that have been expropriated by Israeli settlers from his office in the luxurious American Colony hotel. (OK, he recently described the building of new settlements in East Jerusalem as “unhelpful”, but that hardly counts. “Unhelpful” is the kind of term that’s suitable if you encounter a grumpy waiter in a restaurant, not for denouncing the attempted erasure of an entire culture).

    George Monbiot, the environmentalist and founder of the Arrest Blair campaign, has indicated to me that I am eligible to a share of a bounty he has collected (after I go through a verification process). Because Blair has abetted crimes committed against the Palestinians, I have asked Monbiot to donate any money I might be owed to a Gaza-based human rights organisation. My feeble efforts are nothing compared to the relentless work undertaken by many of those who have to live with the consequences of war crimes.

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    1. Journalist attempts citizen’s arrest of Blair in EU parliament

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    A Brussels reporter attempted to place Tony Blair under a citizen’s arrest on Monday (22 March) for his role in the invasion of Iraq, during a visit by the former UK prime minister to the European Parliament for a hearing on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    On the seventh anniversary of the invasion almost to the day, late afternoon, David Cronin, an Irish journalist with the Inter Press Service news agency and a regular writer on European Union affairs for The Guardian, the British centre-left daily, approached Mr Blair, as he was due to discuss with MEPs his current work as a Middle East special envoy.

    Tony Blair, currently a top-level envoy to the Middle East, is finding it hard to shake off the Iraq War ghosts (Photo: The Council of the European Union)

    Placing his hand on the former prime minister’s arm, Mr Cronin said: “Mr Blair, this is a citizens’ arrest.”

    The ex-Labour leader, in the parliament to speak as the special representative of the Quartet – the EU, US, Russia and the UN – momentarily flinched, but the 38-year-old reporter was quickly pushed away by a bodyguard.

    The reporter was not himself arrested or accosted by European Parliament security, but simply left the room of his own accord. Attempting to re-enter half an hour later, Mr Cronin was refused entry and guards later requested to see his press card.

    Spokespeople for the UK mission to the European Union refused to comment on the incident.

    2. Blair’s guards rebuff citizen’s arrest

    3. Irish Times on Cronin’s “peaceful” arrest attempt:  “I wasn’t trying to harm the guy”

    Excerpt:

    ‘Cronin works for news agency Inter Press Service and is a contributor to the Guardian newspaper’s website. He has also contributed to the Wall Street Journal and the Sunday Tribune and for five years was political correspondent for the European Voice, a specialist publication owned by the Economist . He said he was inspired by the “Arrest Blair” campaign led by environmentalist and columnist George Monbiot. The campaign’s website (www.arrestblair.org) says attempts to arrest Mr Blair would be “largely symbolic” but would have great political resonance. “It was an entirely peaceful attempt to arrest him. I wasn’t trying to harm the guy,” Cronin said.

    Cronin remained in the parliament building but was later refused access to the room where Mr Blair spoke. “When I was on my way out of the building I was followed by three security guards and one of them asked to see my press badge. He took my name.”

    Cronin worked for Ms McKenna between 1995 and 1998. He was a member of the Green Party in the early 1990s but withdrew his membership in 1994.’



    MY THOUGHTS:

    This Cronin person abused his press pass. It should be removed from him and he should never be permitted to attend any press conference or political or ANY gathering at which Mr Blair is present.



    I have noticed something interesting at Monbiot’s Arrest Blair site. I’ll expand on this in another post. This post is far  too wordy already.


    CITIZEN’S ARREST  (Wikipedia) and pasted here. I have added red bolding for the hard of understanding, ie. Cronin and Monbiot.

    CITIZEN’S ARREST (Wikipedia)

    A citizen’s arrest (officially called an “any person arrest”) is permitted to be made on any person under section 24A of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 for an indictable offence, including either way offences (in this section referred to simply as “an offence”), but excluding certain specific ones listed below. It is thus permissible for any person to arrest:

    • Anyone who is without doubt in the act of committing an offence, or whom the arrestor has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be in the act of committing an offence, and
    • Where an offence has been committed without doubt, anyone who is without doubt guilty of that offence or whom the arrestor has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be guilty of it

    In order for the arrest to be lawful, the following two conditions must also be satisfied:

    • It appears to the person making the arrest that it is not reasonably practicable for a constable to make the arrest instead
    • The arrestor has reasonable grounds for believing that the arrest is necessary to prevent one of the following:
      • The person causing physical injury to himself or others
      • The person suffering physical injury
      • The person causing loss of or damage to property
      • The person absconding before a constable can assume responsibility for him

    Use of the second power above is rather risky, since it relies upon the person carrying out the arrest knowing that an indictable or either way offence has been committed. If, for example, the arrested person is later acquitted in court, then it could be concluded that no offence has been committed; thus, the arrest would be unlawful. The Act therefore gives a constable additional powers to arrest the following:

    • Anyone who is (without doubt) about to commit an offence, or whom the constable has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be about to commit an offence
    • Anyone whom the constable has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be guilty of an offence which is merely suspected to have taken place

    A constable’s arrest power is not limited to indictable offences and conditions different from the above apply.


    So, Cronin, in your wisdom, have you considered that the police who accompany Mr Blair in numbers have already decided he has NOT committed an indictable offence? They have, and they have dismissed the thought.

    And do you realise that if Blair were ever tried after one of YOUR little arrest episodes and found NOT GUILTY that YOU could be charged with an ‘unlawful arrest’?

    For that, if that were ever to be the case, a life sentence would be just about long enough. You AND your mate Monbiot, to name but two copper-bottomed eejits.

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    February 3, 2010
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    With a trilby tip to Simon Hoggart’s amusing “Yes but, no but, yes but” here at the Guardian John Rentoul writes on Clare Short’s “counterfactual universe” at the Iraq Inquiry yesterday.

    All rather odd to ask her to put herself in Blair’s position, of course. We ALL KNOW, DON’T WE that she would never have started from there. Oh, no.

    Y-A-W-N! She’d have sorted out the Palestine situation first. Yes but, no but …you and whose army, Clare?

    None of this will prevent this heroine of the left being lauded as principled and upright despite her unprincipled and downright inability to behave as we should expect from senior politicians.

    Apart from that, how could she put herself in HIS position? In his position dress sense is required.

    Upon such trifles great civilisations rise and fall, Ms Short, I’m afraid. Not on a I wouldn’t start from here grand pronouncement.

    Hoggart says –

    ‘She had been conned into not resigning immediately. Tracey Blair had told her that Sharon Bush had promised to follow the Middle East road map, and that the UN would lead the reconstruction of Iraq. But had she taken the right decision at the time?’

    ‘”I still agree with myself” – a line only a politician could produce. As she left the room, the onlookers burst into applause. Unlike the inquiry, they adore anyone who sticks it to Tracey.’

    More from Rentoul here:

    Clare’s Dishonourable Self-Deception

    Poll on Iraq – “Twenty-nine per cent? How do they know?”

    With his version of my oft-used phrase “WE ALL KNOW, DON’T WE?” he wonders how on earth 29% of people can possibly think the Iraq war had been a success?

    Simple, John, they read you and me and NOT such as the Daily Maul.

    MOONBATTING IT TO THE MOONBAT MONBIOT

    Moonbattery on Moonbat Monbiot and his “fatwa against Tony Blair”

    Excerpt:

    The prime objectives are to encourage the International Criminal [Kangaroo] Court to try Blair for crimes against moonbattery and…

    To show Mr Blair that, despite his requests for people to “move on” from Iraq, the mass murder he committed will not be forgotten.

    You know, mass murder like this:

    No wait, that’s the mass murder Blair helped put an end to when Saddam’s death toll was capped at around 2 million. Monbiot must be referring to the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi babies British troops have ruthlessly impaled on their bayonets. You heard all about that, right?

    No doubt Monbiot would arrest Blair himself, except that the world is still laughing at his pathetic attempt to arrest John Bolton.’


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    THINK ABOUT THIS

    This is an interesting word analysis of what Blair said in his evidence last week, word by important word. Top word is  – what?

    “Iran”?

    Come on. You must be part of the 61% who believe the British press.

    It was   – “think”, actually (‘actually’ also figured high as it happens.) But ‘think’ was way out ahead, usually preceded by “I”, presumably. As it should be. I think, therefore I am (prime minister.)

    See – Tony Blair’s testimony to the Chilcot inquiry on Iraq: which words did he use?




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