Ex Terror Chief: Contempt of Court Act damages public perception of Police & Government

July 6, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    6th July, 2009

    FOUR YEARS ON, THEY’VE NOTICED THE OBVIOUS

    THE RULES OF THE GAME HAVE CHANGED!!!

    THE CONTEMPT OF COURT ACT ACTS AGAINST JUSTICE AND OUR COUNTRY’S INTERESTS

    The Contempt of Court Act, which became law in 1981, says that once someone has been arrested, any kind of publication that creates “a substantial risk that the course of justice… will be seriously impeded or prejudiced” is a criminal offence, regardless of intent.  This affects what the media can publish or broadcast and what the police can say.

    “THE RULES OF THE GAME HAVE CHANGED”

    Now… who said that and when and why? Oh yes, Tony Blair in 2005 after 7/7

    But despite his being SO right, people such as these (Shami Chakrabarti of “Liberty”) and these (Labour’s Tony McNulty) and these (The Times) blackened his words, reasoning, motivation, intent and even his integrity. We know the rest.

    Why has it taken the two gentlemen who have spoken out almost FOUR YEARS since 7/7/2005 to notice what Blair noticed immediately?  Worse still, the present government says nothing so far in response to Clarke & Goldsmith. Perhaps because they realise this:

    this issue is only ONE of many of fundamental importance to this country’s security and future which need to be tackled, urgently. The present government does not have the guts, motivation, time nor enough political know-how to know where to start.

    Oh, for Gawd’s sake. Let’s get this country back under REAL principled leadership. 

    Labour Party – LISTEN –  beg Mr Blair to return to his rightful place and shake some sense into this country’s politics again.

    He will have no credible opposition in this fight for OUR democracy and OUR rights. There is no frontbench politician - NONE – with any real grasp of the seriousness of the present situation.  And NO understanding of this Act’s (and others’) deleterious effects on our country.

    Either that or the opposition are all in the vice-like grip of human righters, their own unprincipled vote-trawling exercise, the PC-high-minded and an untrustworthy, rotten press. The fourth alternative is too worrying to think about.

    Failing to get a grip on this and other legal impediments to common sense, this country is now looking at one aspect after another of the threats that came when we refused to see the wood for the trees. Despite Blair’s efforts he was stymied by the competing and conflicting opinions and interests of lawyers, human/civil right activists, his own party’s PC Left, EU legislation and the shameless Liberal Democrats and others weak in the face of danger.

    STILL DON’T ACCEPT THAT ANYTHING HAS CHANGED?

    Yes, I know the argument that THEY win if WE change our laws or lifestyle. Stupid argument.  They are already winning because we have NOT changed. That silly Shame of Chakrabarti woman espouses that facile argument all the time. (Btw, she irritates me greatly – and sorry if this sounds un-PC – but who the hell does she think she is to lecture US about the Magna Carta? MY ancestors probably helped compile it!)

    I HAVE A LITTLE LIST …

    1. Sharia Courts in Britain:  There are now 85 – at last count, starting from just 5, two months after Gordon Brown took over from Blair. These should NOT be recognised under the Arbitration Act says Civitas the Institute for the Study of Civil Society.

    1a. Creeping Sharia Finance is stronger in Britain than anywhere else in the western world and is being actively supported and even SPONSORED by the present British and Scottish governments. See the Jerusalem Post. (Hat tip to Sharia Finance Watch.) Odd how foreign publications tell us more than the dhimmified British press on these matters, is it not? The power of the internet.

    2. The actions taken against Christian symbols of religion or patriotism, here (no cross at school for teenager, but Sikh daggers are A OK) and here (no British flag or St George’s cross allowed for THIS “racist”) and here (no cross for airport checkout staff, but turbans/hijabs are fine) and here (8- year old in CofE school banned from wearing crucifix and here (no chastity ring, as it is a ‘Health & Safety’ issue!) Meanwhile OTHER cultures and religions can do/wear what the hell they like in OUR country! Ask yourself WHY this capitulation in recent years? The answer – PC nonsense, a blindness to the danger when ultra-liberalism commits suicide, STUPID British & EU LAWS and a misguided desire to keep other cultures sweet.  ALL UTTER NONSENSE, NONSENSE, NONSENSE!

    3. The freedom with which we allow Muslims who live here to intimidate the natives with their black SHROUDS.  We should BAN such separating and imprisoning modes of female dress – see here.

    4. Our frequent inability to expel or extradite inciters of terrorism who threaten us. These have NO right by any measure of common sense to remain here and yet WE pay for them to remain in Britain, on the dole, multiple wives in tow, or in our prisons.

    5. Our tied hands, because of LAWS, as regards imprisoning or ridding ourselves permanently of homegrown British-born terror supporters such as Anjem Choudary. He says, on video, that he has no allegiance to Britain, only to his “religion”.  Choudary, in a TalkBack interview immediately after 7/7: “Just because you are born in a stable that doesn’t make you a horse”. He also said on that sad occasion when asked about the deaths of innocents of ALL religions and none - “only Muslims are innocent.”

    Stamp him and his like out of our country, before he stamps us out.

    6. The rise of extremist right-wing behaviour.  Whatever the ’cause’ we know the effect. THIS too has no place in Britain.

    7. The continued spread of LIES on the “lies” of politicians by the press over the so-called ”disastrous” war in Iraq. They fail to notice that people in Iraq NOW live FREE from dictatorship after 30 years of Saddam in the only FREE democracy in the Middle East after Israel.

    You still think the rules of the game haven’t changed? Well, I give you this – they have changed for SOME, but not for the well-being of most in Britain.

    Meanwhile in Baghdad

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    Iraq: Improved security has allowed pools to re-open for families escaping the heat [GALLO/GETTY

    Thank you Mr Bush, Mr Blair and the other leaders of the coalition which freed Iraq from Saddam’s evil dictatorship. You were too wise and far too good for many you represent.


    MORE ON CLARKE & GOLDSMITH

    Mr Clarke headed the Metropolitan Police’s Counter Terrorism Command and was National Co-ordinator for Terrorism Investigations until last year. Lord Goldsmith was the Attorney General under Tony Blair, and was often in the uncomfortable spotlight over the Iraq war and terror issues.

    TOO SLOW TO CATCH ON TO THE POWERS OF THE INTERNET

    You’d think the existence of the internet itself, for at least a couple of decades now, would have brought the powers and credibility of this increasingly failing act to the attention of the “deciders” far earlier. No-one in free democracies controls internet content, particularly content from external legal jurisdictions.  So outside agencies, reporters or interested parties can report as they like, often, presumably, fed the information from within Britain. And then it spreads via the net.

    Apart from the fact that censorship is impractical internationally and frankly inoperable even within geographic boundaries, there is huge resistance to any form of censorship within and across free democracies. Because of the powers of lobbying “interest groups” the consequences have been highly detrimental to our views of OUR OWN COUNTRY and OUR OWN DEMOCRACY.

    We have been conned by those who wish to do us harm and by those who would not recognise harm if, aas it frequently does, it jumped up and bit them on the nose.

    NO SANCTIONS AGAINST INTERNET LIES & PROPAGANDA

    Yet it has been clear for many years that the act, although applying to websites as well as printed publications, was powerless under the onslaught of thousands of web comment and opinion from far and wide. No charges would ever stick since original sources could be argued and would mostly be unable to be proven or disproven.  The Contempt of Court Act as it is presently constituted belongs to the pre-internet age. As someone once said, “the rules of the game have changed.” Pity it has taken “formers” to bring this to our attention and not present government ministers. Running scared? See why I suggest this here. ….add below

    So those with political agenda and the civil/human righters have had free run to accuse the authorities of heavy-handedness over civil liberties. It was ALWAYS rubbish and yet the myth has so deeply penetrated the “intelligentsia’ swritings that many peole believe the myths. Dictatorial government, prejudice against Muslims – you name it they have been accused of it.

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    Mr Clarke says reporting restrictions can damage public confidence in police

    I wonder if Peter Clarke’s challenge to the government in suggesting a “review” of the 1981 Contempt of Court Act will be listened to, or acted on? Somehow I doubt it. This government has other things on its mind.

    So far the present Attorney General has not commented on this, nor has anyone in governnment. So you may be forgiven for wondering if this is kite-flying or just the laying down in the public psyche of the thought that at last someone with some sort of authority is beginning to notice the effects this Act has had on certain members of the community and through them on the rest of us.

    As an example of earlier unwanted the inadequacies Mr Clarke cites the Police’s raid on the Finsbury Park mosque in 2003 and its repercussions within Muslim communities. The Police themselves AND the government were prevented from explaining WHY this had been done. The result -  those with an axe to grind ground it, and with it British democracy beneath their feet. Those who had issues with the police and/or the government accused both of exaggerating the threat, which Mr Clarke descibes as “massively frustrating”. It was. To both important strands of our democracy – the government and the Police. It was even more frustrating to many of us who preferred to trust the Police than the spokesmen of interested groups and such as “Shame of ” Chakrabarti of so-called “Liberty”.

    He told the BBC that the law, designed to ensure fair trials by limiting reporting of cases, made it harder for anti-terrorism police to do their jobs. It was vital to ensure trials were fair but juries must be trusted, he said. The Act made counter-terrorism policing more dificult because it prevents the police and government explaining what the police are doing, so arousing suspicions and unease in the populaton.

    The former Attorney General , Lord Goldsmith felt he had been in a “no win situation”, criticised by all sides.

    What took them so long to realise all of this? And what is the motivating factor in this NOW? Retirement?

    Probably. Governments rule with the consent of the people. And while people are so heavily and dangerously influenced by the writings, thoughts and prejudices of a liberal-minded, anti-establishment, anti-authority, anti-war elite, government’s hands are tied. Very little can government offer as change or limitation for the good of the majority which will NOT be interpreted as ONLY of use to the government’s agenda. This crowd of press truth-benders are the “Enemy Within”, NOT the government.

    That is the position the previous prime minister found himself in during the last few years of his premiership. Press lies over his Iraq decision had traduced his reputation SO completely that we were led to believe that HE was the problem, not the answer. So, so wrong. So disastrously wrong.

    The Mail - (all right, all right, I know! But they are sometimes right even if unintentionally) – has an excellent, if ironic caption to this picture on the issue of reporting and LIES. Just don’t ask WHOSE LIES they refer to.

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    Atrocity: Laws don't stop lies being told about terror attacks like 7/7 (above)

    MEANWHILE, IN THE RUN-UP TO THE IRAQ INQUIRY (and the hoped-for ritual/virtual ‘hanging’ of Tony Blair)

    The press may be limited in their ability to prejudice upcoming trials BUT they are NOT limited in their freedom to question the government and Police’s approach to trying to protect us, the people. For years we have had our brains washed in the murky waters of these people, to the extent that only brain transplants can remedy our malady. (But worry not, scream the conspirators, the government is ALREADY doing that!)

    Give me strength!

    Internet articles, blog posts and opinion and conspiracy theories abound, including supporting commentary from a duped public. Thus many of my recent posts on the press’s Rights without Responsibilities.


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    Following is an excerpt from an interview with Hadad Adel, speaker of the Iranian Parliament, which aired on Iranian TV Channel 2, on June 17, 2009.

    To view this clip on MEMRI TV, visit here. 

    Hadad Adel: “The BBC sympathizes with these people. It is the same BBC network that is teeming with Bahais, who take vengeance against the Iranian people. In fact, the managers of many departments in BBC Farsi TV, which began airing a few months ago, are Bahais. I think that the Iranian people should no longer view the word BBC as an acronym for ‘British Broadcasting Company,’ but as an acronym for ‘Bahai Broadcasting Company.’ In other words, it is the voice of the Bahais – not that there is such a big difference. After all, the English created the Bahais. The people should not trust this network.”

    A regular commenter from the states just sent me this: “Well, why not. We have the ALL Barack Company, (ABC), Naturally Barack Company, (NBC) and Completely Barack System, (CBS).”

    BRILLIANT stuff. Wonder if Amanutjob gets the joke?




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    Tony Blair video: Decisions, “standing and falling by them”. Listening Gordon?

    July 5, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    5th July, 2009

    BLAIR: “… your job is to say what you think and to stand by it and if necessary to fall by it”

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    In case you hadn’t noticed, and some in Britain notice NOTHING apart from that which confirms their own narrow prejudices, Tony Blair is in great demand throughout the world for speaking engagements on many areas of politics and religion.

    Often recently he has been asked to speak on leadership, for some reason best known to the many who ASK!

    Here, an Illinois church leader, Jim Mellado, President of the Willow Creek Association, explains his thoughts on our former Prime Minister, the leader he said he wanted to meet above all others in the world. In the end he went one better. He secured Mr Blair to speak at his church’s Leadership Summit to his evident great delight.

    He won’t be disappointed with Mr Blair’s contribution.

    I agree totally with Mr Mellado’s analysis of Mr Blair’s leadership qualities, and I have known a few leaders. But it’s still heart-warming to see my views echoed by others.

     Jim Mellado’s words from the video (click to watch):

    “I think Tony Blair is one of the most significant leaders to lead in an extraordinary period in modern history. Tony Blair during his ten years as  prime minister of the United Kingdom had to deal with the Northern Ireland crisis which after 300 years of so many failed peace attempts he was able to bring resolution and lasting peace there.  He’s had to deal with Kosovo, 9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, 7/7 the terrorist attacks on British soil. This man has been through the crucible of leadership, and I think there is so much that we can learn from him.”

    Excerpt of the contribution that Tony Blair will be making at their leadership summit:

    “The thing about the whole position of leadership is that you take a decision inside yourself that there are things that you will stand for and not yield on.  And that’s not to be inflexible or petulant,  if you like, it is to say that part of leadership is having that inner core. I think the single most important thing is that if you really believe something is right and you’re then faced with the fact that that view you have come to is uncomfortable for other people the thing that you can’t do then is yield on that. You’ve got to stick with that. And for me I came to the view that ultimately for my country the final duty I owed them was to do what I thought was right and then they make their judgement then about me as a result of  that and their prerogative is to say we disagree with you or even to vote you out of office.  But if you really think that this is the right way to go for the organisation, the people that you are leading, then your job is to say what you think and to stand by it and if necessary to fall by it.

    It doesn’t take much to work out which decision is still uppermost in his mind, does it?



    TONY BLAIR 

    One of Great Britain’s most internationally recognized statesmen, Tony Blair served as Prime Minister of Great Britain and Northern Ireland from 1997 to 2007. During his tenure he helped transform Britain’s public services in education and health care and is widely credited for his contribution towards assisting the Northern Ireland Peace Process. He continues to be active in public life today, working as a key leader in the international community’s efforts to secure peace in the Middle East. He also advocates on issues of personal interest, including Africa and climate change. In 2008, he launched the Tony Blair Faith Foundation, which promotes understanding between the major faiths and increases understanding of the role of faith in the modern world.



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    Rentoul on “The Rise (& Fall?) of Political Lying”. An apt title for Oborne’s inexactitudes

    July 4, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    4th July, 2009

    NOTE: P.S. TO THE PREVIOUS POST

    I have not argued the ‘facts’ around which The Mail’s Peter Oborne builds his fantasies of political lying. My argument is different. It is one of rights to write and the accompanying responsibilities. Even IF true, and not journalistic lies, no-one deserves to be traduced in the way Oborne does relentlessly and utterly carelessly.  But, pasted below, John Rentoul goes further. In this blog post he points out that Oborne is, not to put too fine a point on, inexact with the verity in his accusations of Tony Blair’s ‘lying’. I presume Mr Rentoul has read Oborne’s book – laughingly titled “The Rise of Political Lying”.  Oh the irony! I can’t and wouldn’t give his book a moment of my time.  Life is too short, and worth more than Oborne seems to think.  I accept Mr Rentoul’s analysis.  I hesitate to add this, but it is a thought worth pondering; whilst no politician or former adviser RIGHT now is going to challenge Oborne on the depth and extremes of his lies, if the said politicans and friends are freed of blame after the Iraq Inquiry where exactly does that leave the likes of Oborne who have spent so many years disparaging them?  In the dock? Maybe. Just a thought.

    JOHN RENTOUL GIVES THE LIE TO OBORNE’S ”INEXACTITUDES”

    [Comment from Caela"It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But the half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor."]

    Rentoul: ‘I shouldn’t do it because it only encourages him. But Peter Oborne in the Daily Mail today repeats his claim that Tony Blair is a liar. The basis for this claim is his own book, The Rise of Political Lying. As I have written before (and updated here), the book does not contain a single incontrovertible instance of the former Prime Minister knowingly telling an untruth. Oborne’s reliability may be assessed by reference to his second item, about the German constitutional court ruling on Tuesday, which he says has massive implications not just for Germany, but also for Britain. This is because there will now be a long delay in the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty which could well string out the process until after the British general election.

    Oborne goes on to say that “this has fascinating ramifications”, which it would if it were true.

    But it isn’t.

    The BBC report of the court’s decision includes this paragraph:

    Officials in Germany’s ruling coalition said parliament would vote on the legislation demanded by the court before Germany’s general election on 27 September.

    So Germany will have ratified the Lisbon Treaty long before likely date of a British general election next May. Ramifications not quite so fascinating after all.’

    John Rentoul – source


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    Day 5: The ‘TRIAL’ of Tony Blair – Opioides for Oborne?

    July 4, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    4th July, 2009

    NOTE: Whenever I spot an article that I consider prejudicial to the seeking of TRUTH and to the acceptance of the outcome of the upcoming Iraq Inquiry I will add another “Day”.  The biased, brainwashing and ultimately dangerous Daily Mail earns my opprobrium today.

    THE DAILY MAIL PREJUDICES THE OUTCOME & REPERCUSSIONS OF …

    THE TRIAL … er … IRAQ INQUIRY

    Are there NO sanctions the government can impose upon the British press as we approach the Iraq Inquiry? Do we just have to put up with their masquerading as the ONLY truth seekers, as they espouse their exaggeration and downright lies? Does it matter not one jot that many people, thanks to the press, may still be looking for severe punishment for Tony Blair, even if the Inquiry clears him of ALL and ANY wrongdoing or misleading of parliament and the country? Might another black eye be the least of his worries AFTER this inquiry? Would the press’s ‘consciences’ be tweaked if summary justice were to be meted out to anyone, even a panel member or family member, friend or associate of  a witness following this “show trial”?

    ‘Rights without responsibilities’ is a phrase readily attachable to today’s press.

    I dislike Peter Oborne of the vitriolic Daily Mail.  No point pretending.

    But I’m starting to wonder if he needs help. The poor man may be in constant pain, given that his nastiness is boundless, perhaps even chronic.  This is NOT normal. If so, can I recommend a daily opioid?  Replace the grapefruit/cereal/toast and in no time, Mr Oborne, you’ll be feeling SO much better. You might even discover such tranquility that you conclude that politicians are people too and deserving of some respect, even if you disagree with their politics. Most of them, anyway. (When/if the Tories get to work, of course, you might have to go back to the cornflakes.)

    Seriously though, Oborne’s writing has a nasty, vindictive streak leading me to the conclusion that he consumes some unpalatable concoction each morning to set himself up nicely for the day’s rantings. These ravings seem far more bitter and twisted than just party political oppositioning. And they are.

    Yes, he is a Conservative supporter, more or less, though I believe he said he voted for Libertas in the EU elections. Backed the wrong horse, Mr Oborne? His longstanding attacks on Labour have been even more strongly directed personally at Tony Blair. His hopes were raised when Gordon Brown took over (wrong horse again.) Now severely disappointed he must, surely MUST, even HE, realise that he is treading dangerous grounds in his article today at The Mail assuredly titled “Our Right Honorable Liars Debauching Democracy”. (Btw, what’s with the American spelling of “honorable”? Has he no honour, this Englishman?) Enough rhetoricals for one day.

    HE DOESN’T NEED TO MENTION THE IRAQ INQUIRY TO AFFECT IT

    Oborne’s article today does NOT mention the upcoming Iraq Inquiry, only an earlier one. That hardly matters. The significance is in the message that it sends as to the trustworthiness of individuals who will be in the spotlight.  And we know who they will be. You can rest assured that the drip-drip effect of self-righteous perfidy is designed to harm the credibility of the testimony of the Iraq Inquiry’s witnesses. It will further prejudice the public against them, as it has been doing for years. Worse it will negate the acceptance of a favourable outcome for the “accused”, if that is the Inquiry’s judgement.  And we are to expect at least a YEAR of this outpouring of poisonous, brainwashing venom?

    The reason Oborne’s approach is so dangerous is that,  putting aside its anti-Labour position, it screams the message that there has never been such a bunch of manipulative liars as the present Labour government, under whichever leader. Flowing from that is the secondary message – that they cannot be beaten by fair means or even foul, such is their sly corruption and powerful connections.  And from that the third message – even if the present government’s leaders and Mr Blair come out of the Iraq Inquiry smelling of roses – it will ALL be LIES.

    The concluding, dangerous message – you/we are within your/our rights to GET these people ANY WAY you/we can, foul or not, since the system does not hold held them accountable.

    To set off attack dogs a tweak on a leash is all it takes.

    AN EXCERPT FROM OBORNE’S MAIL ARTICLE
     
    ‘An equally disturbing case of this culture of mendacity concerns Alastair Campbell, Tony Blair’s press spokesman and a notorious and habitual liar.
     
    In the summer of 2003, the former red-top tabloid political editor appeared before the Foreign Affairs Committee to answer questions about the preparation of the notorious government dossier which had claimed that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction.
     
    Campbell lied repeatedly during this hearing — misleading MPs on a number of substantive points.
     
    At the time, I sent well-documented proof that he was lying to Mike Gapes, who later became chairman of the committee, urging him to investigate.
     
    But Gapes, an old Labour Party trusty, refused to do so. When I asked him for a reason, he refused to answer me.
    However, Tony Blair himself provides the most heinous example of political dishonesty.
     
    As I set out in my book, The Rise Of Political Lying, he repeatedly misled the Commons on a range of matters and, most particularly, over the Iraq War.
     
    Again and again he would make emphatic statements which gravely misrepresented the briefings he had been given by British intelligence.
     
    Amazingly these lies remain uncorrected to this day on the official record.
    Blair could never have got away with this kind of systemic deceit had it not been for the shameful and partisan inertia of Commons Speaker Michael Martin — and a weak Tory opposition that failed to hold him to account.

    When Gordon Brown became prime minister, he asserted that he would bring a new integrity to British politics.

    I was one of those who foolishly believed him, but sadly Brown’s mendacity is, if anything, more shameless than Blair’s.’ 

    IRAQ, LIES, LIBEL, EXPENSES, BERCOW, BIAS, PUBLIC DISTRUST

    Oborne thus makes it crystal clear in his article that he considers an earlier inquiry into Iraq a travesty.  He backs it up by saying that HE and HIS evidence were both discounted by (biased or instructed) pro-Labour people. And he is secure enough to call Alastair Campbell and others liars.

    Do the laws of libel no longer apply in this country? Or does he know that right now no-one will bring him to task for this?  The Iraq Inquiry looms large in all their minds.

    He manages not to mention any Conservative MPs in his ridicule of the expenses issues, assuming that we are all daft enough to think that only the Labour party were mis-using the system. Oh yes, he DOES mention Bercow, the new Tory- ish speaker. Unpopular with many Conservatives this is the man who thought Blair’s leadership ‘inspirational’.  So that’s him discounted instantly.

    And quite how Brown’s “mendacity” can be “more shameless” than Blair’s given that Blair was according to Oborne “the most heinous example of political dishonesty” is beyond me and my grasp of relative comparisons. ONE of them surely was worse than the other. Or doesn’t it matter, as long as the Mail’s commenters conclude this:

    “I hate them all………….and trust none”

    And they do. See the comments at his article for proof. In case you have forgotten this paper closely monitors EVERY comment prior to publication and always has done. So don’t bother if you are pro-Labour or worse pro-Blair. They only accept THEIR prejudices at this organ of FREE SPEECH.

    So, job done, Mr Oborne. You and your “WE ALL KNOW-ERS” have added not one iota of reasoned thought or argument to the debate on political honesty OR to the fairness of the Iraq Inquiry’s press coverage or its perception by the public, before, during and afterwards.


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    Tony Blair News – Medal for India work OR his Black Eye? (You choose)

    July 4, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm

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    4th July, 2009

    THE PRESS & THEIR AGENDA’D UNBALANCED PRIORITIES

    The Hindu News update reports on the Fenner Brockway Medal which was awarded to Tony Blair on Friday in London by his friend Peter, now Lord Mandelson. It was awarded in honour of Mr Blair’s contribution to UK-India relations. Mr Blair said he “treasured” the UK-India relationship which grew from strength to strength during the last decade and said India “has an important role to play in the global scene now, not only in the field of economy but in tackling the growing menace of terrorism because of its long experience in dealing with the issue.” Also reported in detail at at The Telegraph, India

    There may be some political and/or personal empathic thoughts flying through the ether in this photograph. I couldn’t possibly comment. But pictures paint a thousand words SO much more effectively than mere letters, as The Mirror mendaciously noticed recently.

    Oh, all right then children. I’ll paint a picture story and add some captions.

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    So congratulations all round then.


    SPROG BLOGS, TRUE TO FORM, TAKE THEIR LEAD FROM THE DAILIES

    Note how this page ends if you are unsure about the RULES employed for misrepresentation of the facts …

    Blair: “It’s true that I did a lot for you

    I’d generously conclude that this trail-off and thus editing wasn’t necessarily meant with malice aforethought except that it does not point to a link with the FULL script.  But, panic not, dear Truth Seekers, I’ll find one and come back to you with it. I promise.  

    I’m back! You knew you could trust me didn’t you?

    This is the relevant section:

    ‘Blair said he had a special word of thank you for Peter.

    It’s true that I did a lot for you. But you did even more for me, and that’s returned the favour, he told Mandelson.

    It’s not often that I get the chance to say this publicly. For years he’s been a wonderful friend to me. He’s a brilliant man, a remarkable man and a very great public servant, Blair added.’


    SO, WHAT’S THE STORY, MORNING GORY?

    As John Rentoul noted here and Blair Foundation Watch here, THIS award with regard to relationships he built and fostered with one of the world’s coming powers over his ten years as prime minister was NOT the BIG story. Oh no, not in the slightest. Not on your nellie.

    The BIG story for the British press and little bloggers was this – [where's that picture board thingamejig ...?]

    You should have seen the other guy

    Mr Blair sporting a black eye from a gym accident

    Oh yes…

    They were far more interested in these pictures and what it might really mean, if truth were told, hand-on-heart, swearing by the almighty press, honest-to-God!

    WHO THUMPED TONY?

    They weren’t satisfied with Mr Blair’s scant “don’t ask … in the gym” to Alastair Campbell at a funeral the other day, naturally.  The Mail, ever notably useless at prioritising stories on Blair much less reporting truthfully, were no doubt hoping he’d been laid out cold by one of their regular commenters. They left us in no doubt what they thought.

    If they were remotely right a security man’s head would have rolled by now. This ‘clunking fist’ … er… former prime minister goes nowhere without heavy protection, a sad reflection on our society.

    Mr Blair sporting a black eye from a gym accident

    You should have seen the other guy

    According to Alastair Campbell’s blog’s date the gym accident must have happened before 29th June, so it’s a lot less black in these pictures than it would have been a week or so ago.

    Since we all have to be suspicious to write or even think these days I suppose I’d better add my two pence worth.

    Cherie – how COULD you?


    RELATED

    1. BBC reports with mention of praise for Mr Blair’s work on India/Britain relationship:  Barry Gardiner, the Labour MP who chairs Labour’s Friends of India, said Mr Blair had recognised, on becoming PM, that Britain’s relationship with India had become “too comfortable and unproductive”. He said he had changed it from one based on “old sentimentality” to one based on a “shared vision of modern and equal trading partners”.

    2. SkyNews takes a slightly different angle, commenting on his greying hair. (Not so grey in every picture published today. Time to lay off the PhotoShop, fellas?!)

    3. The Times – a straight-forward report, more or less

    4. And apropos nothing much – David Miliband, The Foreign Secretary’s recent thoughts on India’s richness … er … poverty, there’s this gem.  Give us a break! If I were a suspicious type I’d wonder if  Tony’s much-rumoured hope for Miliband as his successor wasn’t in reality another little joke. After all the very idea of Labour prime ministers after Blair does seem to be the stuff of unlikely comedy.

    5. And just WHO is leading the country NOW in this threat from Iran as British embassy staff are about to be tried?  The EU? Ignore their weasel words. America? No Obama way!  Gordon Brown? Forget it.  David Miliband?  Be serious.

    ETCETERA

    1. The Times: Alex Ferguson was right about Michael Owen who has just joined Manchester United. Just as Ferguson was right about Tony Blair! Some people just recognise winners.

    2. The Times: Former anti-terror chief, Andy Hayman’s book banned: Copies of a book by Scotland Yard’s former anti-terrorism chief were hastily removed from bookstore shelves yesterday after the Attorney-General obtained a last-minute injunction. The decision to prevent sales of The Terrorist Hunters, by Andy Hayman, was issued by a High Court judge just before midnight on Wednesday after a hearing conducted by telephone conference call. 




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    Iran to put British Embassy staff on trial

    July 3, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    An Iranian Guardians Council leader has said today that British Embassy staff will be put on trial following so-called confessions.

    BBC report here and below.


    Some UK embassy staff detained in Tehran and accused of inciting protests after disputed elections will face trial, a top Iranian cleric says.

    Guardians Council chief Ahmad Jannati said: “Naturally they will be put on trial, they have made confessions.”

    Nine embassy staff were held in Tehran last weekend. Britain says all but two have now been freed.

    EU governments are considering temporarily withdrawing ambassadors to Iran in protest at the detentions.

    “In these incidents, their embassy had a presence, some people were arrested,” Ayatollah Jannati told the thousands of worshippers at Friday prayers, according to news agencies.

    ‘Velvet revolution’ plan

    BBC diplomatic correspondent Jonathan Marcus says this marks a significant deterioration in the already bad relationship between London and Tehran.

    Ayatollah Jannati did not say how many employees would be tried or on what charges.

    Protests gripped Tehran and other Iranian cities after June’s presidential election, amid claims the vote had been rigged in favour of the incumbent, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

    The Guardians Council – Iran’s supreme legislative body, which Ayatollah Jannati heads – on Monday ratified the disputed result, following a partial recount.

    Ayatollah Jannati said on Friday: “After the election, the enemy could not stand people’s joy. The enemy made an effort to poison the people. They had planned a velvet revolution before the election.”

    He said the UK Foreign Office had warned of possible “street riots” around the 12 June election and had advised its nationals to avoid public places.

    Claims ‘without foundation’

    Tehran has repeatedly accused foreign powers – especially Britain and the US – of stoking unrest after the election.

    Britain has protested strongly against the arrests and rejected the Iranian allegations as baseless.

    In the fallout from the crisis, Tehran expelled two British diplomats and the UK responded with a similar measure.

    “We are very concerned by these reports and are investigating. Allegations that our staff were involved in fomenting unrest are wholly without foundation,” a British foreign office statement said on Friday.

    Five of the nine employees were reportedly released on Monday and Iranian state media said on Wednesday it had freed three more, but British and EU officials say two remain in custody.

    Iran’s semi-official Fars news agency reported this week that one of the detainees had played a “remarkable role during the recent unrest in managing it behind the scenes”.

    Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, last month described Britain, as the “most evil” of its enemies.

    Library ballot boxes

    Meanwhile, the governor of one of Iran’s biggest cities, Shiraz, has denied reports that a number of sealed ballot boxes in its main library contained votes from last month’s election.

    Ebrahim Azizi said the boxes were from previous polls and that the interior ministry had ordered they be archived there.

    Earlier this week, an Iranian journalist posted pictures on the internet of several ballot boxes sitting on the floor of the library.

    Historians say the distrust between the UK and Iran stems from the 1800s, when Iran – then Persia – was forced to concede territory to Russia in a treaty drafted by a British diplomat.

    In more modern times, British operatives backed a CIA-organised coup in 1953 against an elected Iranian government.

    In 2007, Iran seized 15 British navy personnel on patrol in waters between Iraq and Iran and held them for 12 days, during which time they were paraded on national television.

    Britain is also among the most vocal opponents of Iran’s nuclear programme, saying its aim is to develop atomic weapons, a claim denied by Tehran.




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    FOI request: Release of Saddam Hussein’s 2004 interviews with the FBI

    July 3, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm

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  • See report here  – “By God, if I had such weapons [WMDs], I would have used them in the fight against the United States,” he told Piro. When, I wonder, would he have used them? Before or after March 2003?
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    3rd July, 2009

    Excerpts: “The agent does, however, assert with confidence that the U.S. side had information that Iraq was maintaining or developing a WMD capability and cites “evidence” of continuing contact between Iran and al-Qaeda, seemingly implying an operational relationship.”  And:  “Saddam does not provide comfort to his interlocutors on these matters, refuting any notion of collaboration with al-Qaeda, or of a remaining WMD capacity, and in reality the charges, meant to win public support for the invasion of Iraq, were collapsing while the interviews were underway.  Investigators from the CIA, operating freely in occupied Iraq, failed to uncover any credible supporting evidence for the U.S. claims, and ultimately President Bush himself acknowledged that “most of the intelligence turned out to be wrong.”

    WILL THESE PAPERS AFFECT THE IRAQ INQUIRY?  YOU BET!

    Guaranteed to do little than add to the strength of conviction of both sides of the Iraq war debate, these interviews, released as the Iraq Inquiry in Britain is about to get underway, will nonetheless add fuel to the fire.

    When exactly were we told to expect this inquiry to be over? WHICH year? Don’t hold your breath.

    I predict this is only one of many pieces of historic “evidence” which may well be added to the paperwork. We’re likely to be blinded, confused and even bored by more galore in the next year.

    From The National Security Archive (USA)

    Saddam Hussein Talks to the FBI

    Twenty Interviews and Five Conversations with “High Value Detainee # 1″ in 2004

    National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 279

    Edited by Joyce Battle
    Assisted by Brendan McQuade

    Posted – July 1, 2009

    For more information contact:
    Joyce Battle – 202/994-7145

     

    Washington, D.C., July 1, 2009 – FBI special agents carried out 20 formal interviews and at least 5 “casual conversations” with former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein after his capture by U.S. troops in December 2003, according to secret FBI reports released as the result of Freedom of Information Act requests by the National Security Archive and posted today on the Web at http://www.nsarchive.org/.

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    Saddam denied any connections to the “zealot” Osama bin Laden, cited North Korea as his most likely ally in a crunch, and shared President George W. Bush’s hostility towards the “fanatic” Iranian mullahs, according to the FBI records of conversations from February through June 2004 between Saddam and Arabic-speaking agents in his detention cell at Baghdad International Airport.

    The former Iraqi leader, when asked about his accomplishments, listed social progress for the people of Iraq, a temporary truce with the Kurds in the early 1970s, the nationalization of Iraq’s oil in 1972, support for the Arab side during the 1973 Middle East war with Israel, and after that, for the remaining 30 years of his rule, simple survival – through a devastating eight year war with Iran that he had launched, and a 12-year sanctions regime imposed on his people after another war that he began.  During the interviews he repeatedly contests FBI evidence and the neutrality of his interlocutors – which one of them finds ironic, given the record of peremptory Iraqi justice under Saddam’s governance.  He selectively outlines recent Iraqi history and acknowledges some mistakes, including the destruction without U.N. supervision or verification of some of Iraq’s WMD arsenal left over from the 1980s.

    During the interviews Saddam refutes some examples of what he views as myths, like his purported use of body doubles.  Instead he says that to evade his enemies he never used the telephone and traveled constantly from one dwelling to another (he describes the farm where he was captured in a “spider hole” as the same place where he took refuge after a failed 1959 coup attempt.)

    He takes personal responsibility for ordering the launching of SCUD missiles against Israeli targets during the 1991 Persian Gulf War, because he blamed Israel and its influence in the U.S. for “all the problems of the Arabs”, but denies that his purpose was to draw that country into the conflict and to divide Washington from its Arab allies.  He provides details on the lead-up to the war, reporting that during a January 1991 meeting former Secretary of State James Baker told Saddam’s foreign minister that if Iraq did not comply with U.S. conditions “we’ll take you back to the pre-industrial stage.”

    Saddam’s historical recollections include his ascendancy within the Ba’athist party in 1968 and 1969; his disappointment after the Iran-Iraq war with Arab governments for their lack of gratitude for Iraq’s “saving all of the Arab world” from occupation by Iran; details about the 1991 Persian Gulf war; and the post-war Shi’a uprising in Iraq’s south, which he characterizes as “treachery” instigated by Iran.

    Not included in these FBI reports are issues of particular interest to students of Iraq’s complicated relationship with the U.S. – the reported role of the CIA in facilitating the Ba’ath party’s rise to power, the uneasy alliance forged between Iraq and the U.S. during the Iran-Iraq war, and the precise nature of U.S. views regarding Iraq’s chemical weapons policy during that conflict, given its contemporaneous knowledge of their repeated use against Iranians and the Kurds.

    This series of interviews also does not address chemical warfare in Kurdish areas of Iraq in 1987-1988, although an FBI progress report says Saddam was questioned on the topic.  One interview, #20, is redacted in its entirety on national security grounds, although it is not clear what issues agents could have discussed with Saddam that cannot now be disclosed to the public.

    The interviews and conversations were led by George L. Piro, one of an exceedingly small number of FBI agents who spoke Arabic.  The agency expected that Saddam would feel rapport with Piro and develop a sense of dependency.  During the interviews Piro hears Saddam out but is often openly skeptical of the former leader’s recollections.  The agent does, however, assert with confidence that the U.S. side had information that Iraq was maintaining or developing a WMD capability and cites “evidence” of continuing contact between Iran and al-Qaeda, seemingly implying an operational relationship.

    Saddam does not provide comfort to his interlocutors on these matters, refuting any notion of collaboration with al-Qaeda, or of a remaining WMD capacity, and in reality the charges, meant to win public support for the invasion of Iraq, were collapsing while the interviews were underway.  Investigators from the CIA, operating freely in occupied Iraq, failed to uncover any credible supporting evidence for the U.S. claims, and ultimately President Bush himself acknowledged that “most of the intelligence turned out to be wrong.”

    One of the last interviews in the series ends on a valedictory note, after Piro listens to a poem that Saddam had written.  The former president of Iraq is “done,” Piro says, “his life is nearing its end,” and other detainees are blaming him for all of Iraq’s many mistakes.  Saddam is fatalistic and acknowledges reality.  His interviews with Piro ended soon thereafter, and on December 30, 2006, he was hanged, amid the taunts of the political enemies who carried out his execution.

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    1. FBI Form, January 1, 2004
    2. Interview Session 1, February 7, 2004
    3. Interview Session 2, February 8, 2004
    4. Interview Session 3, February 10, 2004
    5. Interview Session 4, February 13, 2004
    6. Interview Session 5, February 15, 2004
    7. Interview Session 6, February 16, 2004
    8. Interview Session 7, February 18, 2004
    9. Interview Session 8, February 20, 2004
    10. Interview Session 9, February 24, 2004
    11. Interview Session 10, February 27, 2004
    12. Interview Session 11, March 3, 2004
    13. Interview Session 12, March 5, 2004
    14. Interview Session 13, March 11, 2004
    15. Interview Session 14, March 13, 2004
    16. Interview Session 15, March 16, 2004
    17. Interview Session 16, March 19, 2004
    18. Interview Session 17, March 23, 2004
    19. Interview Session 18, March 28, 2004
    20. Interview Session 19, March 30, 2004
    21. Interview Session 20, May 1, 2004
    22. Casual Conversation, May 10, 2004
    23. Casual Conversation, May13, 2004
    24. Casual Conversation, June 11, 2004
    25. Casual Conversation, June 17, 2004
    26. Casual Conversation, June 28, 2004
    27. [Excised] IT-Iraq, March 21, 2004



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    Calling All Men – Ban the intimidating, insulting burqa & niqab

    June 30, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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  • BREAKING NEWS:  Muslim schoolgirls have been told to remove their niqab face veils on a visit to a Catholic school in Jack Straw’s constituency today. Their teacher refused to remove hers, setting an interesting example. She was not permitted entry. That’s a start. From now on – NO ENTRY to Britain for burqa wearers, please. The mainstream party which adopts this policy may well get my vote in the next election. Also see The Mail report here.

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    30th June, 2009

    The French President, Nicolas Sarkozy of a country where it seems few wear the burqa, has thrown the cat among the proverbial. Glad to see some European leader has the guts!

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    The French parliament is expected to consider both the burqa, as above, where the eyes are covered by a fabric mesh, and the niqab, which has an eye slit.

    THE EYES BEHIND THE BLACKNESS

    I caught a TV audience discussion programme on Sunday, The Big Questions, where the (male) anchorman, Nicky Campbell asked the eyes sitting behind the blackness (paraphrased) -

    “You say it is to stop men ‘lusting after you.’ In Britain where we believe in equality, why don’t we men wear them, in case the women here lust after us?”

    The niqab-wearing woman, Um Abdullah, was dumbstruck for some time, eventually saying something to the effect, “I hadn’t thought of that.”

    She said her mode of dress was a requirement of her religion, Islam. She insisted that she had chosen to wear it by her own free will, and hadn’t been forced by others, mainly men. Quite how it can be a “requirement” but one can at the same time CHOOSE must be logic subtlety hidden to all but those behind the blackness, and their masters.

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    David Cameron, Conservative leader, said yesterday that niqabs like this, showing only the eyes, are quite acceptable in Britain! Wrong again, Mr Cameron.

    A WOMAN’S RIGHT TO CHOOSE?

    The women’s rights argument is argued forcefully by both sides.  Forget the facile “women’s rights” debate. That is circular and can be used BOTH ways. It is also meant to appeal to the confused PC brigade. Many of us in Britain have had enough of  their confusion.

    On that same programme a British non-Muslim academic who had studied Islam and the koran for 40 years in BOTH Arabic and English insisted that only “modest dress” is called for in the koran rather than the ‘body bag’. He was told by some idiot who thought he’d read the mysterious koran better to go off and study Islam for another 40 years.

    SAFEGUARD MUSLIM CHILDREN’S HEALTH

    These women are also robbing their own bodies of vitamin D which the rest of us soak up from sunlight. How many weakened immune systems result from this, costing our National Health Service millions to try to remedy? How many generations of girls are being subjected to illnesses because of this? Is THAT protecting their RIGHTS and those of their daughters?

    MEN’S RIGHTS

    The burka/niqab is intimidating, is threatening, is separatist,  is a generational health threat to females, is a sign of inequality and can be used as a disguise by men with criminal intent. (Its use by Islamist men, suspected or intending terrorists to disguise themselves and pass through customs is well recorded.)

    Above all, these modes of dress are insulting to MEN.

    Don’t flatter yourselves, my dear Pairs of Eyes, that you are SO-O-O-O irresistibly attractive that you and all men need this kind of medieval protection. Not in Britain you don’t. Can’t speak for the sexual fantasies of all Middle East men, of course!

    And, since you insist it is YOUR choice, don’t insult men by insisting that you are so attractive. Modesty, in the good old-fashioned British way is wider that this. It encompasses more than just sex-obsessed certainties.

    YOU’RE NOT OUR TYPE

    The bad news for you, burqa/niqab inhabitants is that you are certainly NOT attractive in any way to most men in Britain, covered or, possibly, uncovered.

    This insult to non-Muslim men, indeed even Muslim men in Britain must stop. It’s time British men of all religions and none stood up and said so.

    This is OUR country first, second and last, with a liberal western culture you moved here to (presumably) embrace.  If there was ANY other reason for coming here, explain it. Or ask your menfolk – then work it out.

    Women in our British culture do not hide themselves away, nor do they need to, from the presumably sex-mad male population. If you don’t  like it – leave. There are many countries more suited to your medieval, primitive beliefs.

    Our liberalism has had and has given ENOUGH.

    Also debated today on Woman’s Hour, BBC Radio 4, with the very same Um Abdullah holding forth.  (Visit the site to listen again for 7 days.)


    To summarise – I consider myself pretty liberal as regards social mores. But with the spread of the burqa in MY country, Britain, I think it is clear we got it wrong – VERY wrong.

    It’s simple:  to any Muslim woman who wants to live here – leave the ‘body bag’ behind. You won’t have to ask your husband if he’s OK with that, as it is YOUR choice, you keep telling us.

    This form of dress has NO place in our society, none whatsoever.  Just as shorts and t-shirt would have no place for western women on the streets of Saudi Arabia. Our women would not dream of wearing such apparel in strict Islamic dress-code lands. WE in Britain now need to insist on the same kind of restrictions here.

    The alternative is clear.

    Burqa/niqab clad women in Britain need to choose AGAIN. 

    Choose wisely.

    Is this photo session a set-up? Of course not. It’s just a waste of a camera click and a waste of female lives. DREADFUL STUFF.

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    Thanks to BlairFoundation Blogspot for the mention.

    [Please note, neither this site nor, I presume, Blair Foundation Blaogspot, claim to reflect Mr Blair's personal beliefs on this, or indeed on any issue, except where quoting from his actual, or, as reported words. Despite the blog name I can assure you that this site is NOT an extension of Mr Blair's thought processes.]




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    EXCLUSIVE! TOP SECRET! Wording of Tony Blair’s Iraq Inquiry Oath

    June 30, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    30th June, 2009

    TRUTH DAY FOR BLAIR AT THE IRAQ INQUIRY

    BLAIR TO SWEAR ON OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH

    (SO HELP HIM THE PRESS … AND THEIR LITTLE SPROG BLOGS)


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    Is Tony Blair already "guilty" in the eyes of some, perhaps many, even before the Iraq Inquiry - ("INQUIRY", NOT "TRIAL") - has begun? If so, why? Will he give his reports to the inquiry from behind (invisible) bars?

     Tony Blair’s oath at his trial … er … the Iraq Inquiry:
     
      “I swear by the Almighty Press, that the evidence I shall give shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me the bloggers.”

    You weren’t taken in by that heading, were you?

    Surely not? Not a Mail/Mirror/Telegraph/Independent/Times (delete as appropriate) reader are you?

    Then again – have I ever lied to you?

    Just thought I’d put on my newspaper journo hat for a mo and see how it feels!

    It feels silly.

    Doesn’t suit me, Sir.

    See also John Rentoul – TOP SECRET PAPERS (in hands of OMNISCIENT & OMNIPOTENT PRESS.) So we’re all in safe hands, are we not?


    RELATED & ETCETERA

    1. The Telegraph: 85 Sharia courts now in Britain, according to a Civitas report. That number has risen from 5 a couple of months after Brown took over from Blair.

    2. Iraq celebrates as US forces prepare to leave. Just in case you wondered why I hadn’t mentioned the Guardianistos in my recent complaints about the lying press and its commenters, here’s a little something to make up for it.

    Guardian: “Cracks show as US leaves Iraq Cities”

    The Guardian opines miserably. It cannot force tself to “report” on the celebrations of the Iraqi people, army and government today now that they are up to speed on running their Saddam-less country thanks to the coalition countries and forces.  If their headline is not ”brainwashing”, I’m a Guardianisto. There’ s a stubborn individual over there by the alias of Wanna Tell You A Story. S/he’s being attacked bythe juvenile omniscient Cif-ers. In time ”Wanna” will be proved RIGHT, as will Blair, Bush and those of us who have long recognised the truth.

    Sadly the papers of the “left”, the Guardian and Independent (if they stand for anything apart from being anti-Iraq war, anti-war, anti-Bush and anti-Blair), are WORSE in their own ways than the lying right-wing press.

    At least the Tory press have excuses for their lies.




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    Iraq Inquiry – Lord Anderson: “Critics want Blair’s & Campbell’s heads on a platter”

    June 29, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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  • Read full Hansard report of the Iraq Inquiry Debate in the House of Commons,  24th June, 2009
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  • Read full Hansard report of the Iraq Inquiry Debate in the House of Lords, 18th June, 2009 - Note how Shirley Williams(Baroness Williams of Crosby) STATES SO KNOWLEDGEABLY that this was an “illegal and illegitimate war”. What chance an open-minded inquiry with this pre-judgement? We hardly need the press to spin or opine THEIR politically motivated angles, when our parliamentarians already do it so loudly. She, in common with her fellow-travellers in the Lib Dems (and such as George Galloway – see here below), probably falls into the category referred to by the good Lord Swansea below. Heaven help them if/when THEY ever have to make a tough decision in government. Or, more accurately, heaven help the country.
  • Lord Swansea: “Many critics of war do not want a sober analysis; they want an apology and the heads of Tony Blair and Alastair Campbell on a platter.”

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    29th June, 2009

    In the House of Lords just after Gordon Brown had announced the Iraq Inquiry, there was a debate on the inquiry and, inevitably on the issues around the Iraq conflict. This was six days prior to the more highly publicised House of Commons debate.

    This Hansard report of the contribution of Lord Anderson of Swansea says what many believe: that the whole inquiry is probably not worthwhile, albeit they conclude that for different reasons.

    I do not know Lord Swansea or his opinions on the Iraq war, but I share his scepticism.

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    Lord Anderson of Swansea: ”My Lords, I strike a note of scepticism and discord. I recognise that the Government are honouring an obligation and have to proceed, but I am profoundly unconvinced that the exercise will be worthwhile. It is something of a pipe dream to believe that the inquiry as planned, or any inquiry, will lead to closure. I cite in evidence the letter page of the Guardianyesterday, where so many people have already made up their minds and their responses are already predictable. I recall that when the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hutton, was appointed there were paeans of praise about a man wholly incorruptible and fearless, and yet when his report was published and it was considered to be not the one people wanted, it was called a whitewash. Many critics of war do not want a sober analysis; they want an apology andthe heads of Tony Blair and Alastair Campbell on a platter.”

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    And yes, in case you wondered, the black border IS getting bigger every time I use this picture. The way things are going in the press reporting in the run-up to the Iraq Inquiry there may soon be no picture, just blackness.



     

    Excerpt from George Galloway’s contribution to the House of Commons Iraq debate:

     ”Some of us say, to reverse Talleyrand, that this was worse than a blunder; it was a crime. If the inquiry is to mean anything, it will need to be able not only to apportion blame but, if blame is apportioned, to signal what legal avenues should be pursued. I know that we do not like that sort of thing in this country—things are usually swept under the carpet and finessed—but this is new territory. Events such as the expenses scandal have left the country seeing our House with such odium, and this country’s political class so naked, that the old ways will not do. If the inquiry finds people guilty of misleading Parliament, the Queen, the armed forces and the public, they will have to be held accountable. There will have to be a trial, which will have to be held under oath, and that will lead to punishment if there are convictions at the end—nothing less will do.”


    NOTE Galloway’s line of thought, RIGHT NOW, not just after the Inquiry:

    “if the inquiry is to mean anything … blame … legal avenues signalled … if people are found guilty (NOTE - TRIAL language) -they will have to be held accountable … a trial … under oath … punishment if convictions.”


     

    RELATED Blair ‘TRIAL’ posts

  • Day 1: THE TRIALS, TRIALS & ‘TRIAL’ OF TONY BLAIR
  • Day 2: The ‘TRIAL’ of Tony Blair & Press/Internet Freedom
  • Day 3: The ‘TRIAL’ of Tony Blair – “The Independent can report that…”
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    The UGLY: (Press & Comment) – The Mail & Spectator

    June 28, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm

    A quick mention. That’s all it deserves: John Kampfner (aka The Spectator) apologises  …  (sorry – WRONG kind of language) … IS FORCED TO APOLOGISE for his “mistake” with reference to Alastair Campbell in his Spectator article. This is the Spectator article so highly praised in the Daily Mail article below. UGLY looks in the mirror and admires what it sees. This Blair supporting site reports this in detail and links to Alastair Campbell’s blog.

    Comment at end

    28th June, 2009

    THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY

    THIRD – THE UGLY

    THE ‘BRAINWASHED’ PUBLIC & HOW THEY GOT THAT WAY

    Part 3 of 3

    See also -

  • THE GOOD: (Press & Comments) – Aaronovitch, The Times
  • THE BAD: (Press & Comment) – “Blair ‘plan’ backfires” (The Times)
  • THE TORY DAILY MAIL IS FRIGHTENINGLY UGLY

    Brainwashing, biased, hypocritical and frequently guilty of spin.

    The Daily Mail has got to be, without comparison, THE most anti-Labour paper in Britain. Not exactly surprising. It has always made this plain for as far back as I can remember. (I’m not a Labour voter, btw, but presently an abstainer.)

    My gripe with the Mail is this – its policy for public COMMENTERS.

    It NEVER or at least very seldom prints comments that do not go along with its political line. And it seldom prints ANYTHING in praise of Blair, even though many Tories still think he was the leader they never had. I know. I’ve tried.  The consequence is that the Mail actually INFLUENCES and even in some ways CONTROLS the voting intentions of many. People assume that no-one admires, appreciates or sees any merit in the opposition.

    Apart from that it can be particularly sensationalist and doesn’t report but opines LOUDLY.

    The other nationals print ALL opinions, even if The Guardian alone is unmoderated at the time of commenting.

    I consider The Mail the lowest of the low for its blatant CENSORSHIP.  It is supposed to be a national paper, not a Tory party publication.

    For an example of its style read the article below and then glance at the comments it has published.

    Balanced? I think not.

    Daily Mail article & comments follows, below links.


    RELATED – Blair ‘TRIAL’ posts

  • Day 1: THE TRIALS, TRIALS & ‘TRIAL’ OF TONY BLAIR
  • Day 2: The ‘TRIAL’ of Tony Blair & Press/Internet Freedom
  • Day 3: The ‘TRIAL’ of Tony Blair – “The Independent can report that…”
  • Day 4: The ‘TRIAL’ of Tony Blair – House of Commons Debate on Iraq Inquiry

  • Mandelson ‘did deal with Brown to neuter Iraq inquiry in bid to protect  Blair’s name’

    By Tim Shipman, Daily Mail
    Last updated at 12:45 AM on 25th June 2009

    Lord Mandelson stitched up a deal with Gordon Brown for a tame Iraq inquiry to protect Tony Blair, it is claimed today.

    The Business Secretary persuaded the Premier to pick a panel of establishment figures who would probe the conflict in secret – in exchange for his support heading off a Cabinet coup against Mr Brown.

    But with the original plans blown out of the water following a public outcry, the Government yesterday engineered yet another U-turn. 

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    Scheme: Lord Mandelson allegedly pushed Gordon Brown to hold a private inquiry to protect his friend Tony Blair in return for his support against a Cabinet coup

    Foreign Secretary David Miliband said for the first time that the panel chaired by Sir John Chilcot will be able to name, shame and blame those involved in the worst foreign policy disaster in half a century.

    He also said it would be possible for witnesses to give evidence on oath – another reversal of the original plans.

    The concessions were made in a bid to stave off a revolt by Labour backbenchers during a Commons debate on the inquiry.

    The Government’s majority was still slashed by almost half, to 39, on a Tory motion calling for MPs to vote on its terms of reference.

    An authoritative report in The Spectator magazine today lays bare how the Prime Minister and Lord Mandelson tried to protect the reputation of Mr Blair, and, by association, their own.

    Lord Mandelson had played a similar role in recommending Lord Hutton as a compliant figure to investigate the death of weapons scientist Dr David Kelly. 

    His report cleared the government but was widely derided as a whitewash.

    John Kampfner, a journalist close to senior Labour figures, writes of the latest deal: ‘Mandelson – on Blair’s behalf – set down specific conditions for the Iraq war inquiry.

    The deal, I am told, was explicit. Not only would the hearings be fully in private, but the committee would, as with Hutton, be manageable.

    ‘Brown was instructed to ensure that the members of the inquiry would, in the words of one official “not stir the horses”. Brown readily acquiesced.’

    Last night a senior MP who knows Sir John Chilcot said ‘He is vulnerable because he agreed the inquiry could be private and anodyne. Since he’s seen the public furore he’s now flowing with the tide.’

    The reason for the nervousness at the highest reaches of government was laid bare during yesterday’s debate by a member of the Butler Inquiry, which probed the intelligence in the run-up to the war.

    Tory MP Michael Mates said secret papers on the legality of the war, which Tony Blair concealed from his Cabinet, would make people’s ‘eyes water’ if they were published as part of the new inquiry.

    He said he had seen all the memos and indicated that Mr Blair was warned that regime change would not be a legal basis for war. Details of the legal advice have never been published.

    During heated exchanges in the Commons, Shadow Foreign Secretary William Hague derided Mr Brown’s handling of the affair.

    He said: ‘The Government have engaged in a series of climbdowns, a U-turn that was executed in stages as painful to watch as those of a learner driver doing a six-point turn having started off the wrong way down a motorway.’

    LibDem Greg Mulholland, who marched against the war in 2003, said: ‘Once again the Prime Minister has taken his blunderbuss and shot himself broadly in both feet.’

    A Downing Street spokesman, asked about Lord Mandelson’s role in selecting the members of the inquiry, said: ‘We consulted with a lot of people.’ He denied the panel were establishment stooges.

    Lord Mandelson’s spokesman called the Spectator account ‘untrue from start to finish’.

    Mail article continues on PMQs – Peter Mandelson’s Questions


    Mail article follows.

    You will notice that there is only ONE pro-Iraq war commenter published here, and that one is American. This is the ONLY way the Mail ever tries to “balance” its commenters – by showing that only neo-conservatives in the USA support their/Blair’s war. You CAN read between the lines, can’t you? All of this notwithstanding the fact that the Conservative party SUPPORTED Blair on Iraq, and many still do.

    Note also the cover-up, whatever the Inquiry produces allegations made by some commenters. See comments 14 & 18 for their open-minded “fairness”. “Minds” already made up.


    31 comments at time of putting this post together

     

    1. Ooh! Surprise surprise!

    - Lin, London England, 25/6/2009 8:29

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    2. Brown and Mandelson deserve each other

    - Doreen Richards, Berrow, Somerset, 25/6/2009 8:29

    Click to rate     Rating   86

    3. mandelson is as big a liar as blair devious untrustworthy immoral in fact he fits in perfectly with labour

    - william gould, torrevieja spain, 25/6/2009 8:26

    Click to rate     Rating   130

    4. What a load of despicable lowlife this rabble are! Let’s all make sure at the next General Election that the Labour party can NEVER return to drag this Country further into the abyss.

    - chris, glos, 25/6/2009 8:25

    Click to rate     Rating   119

    5. What difference does any of this make? Not one of this rotten lot will be in power after next year.

    - Roger Jennings, London, 25/6/2009 8:18

    Click to rate     Rating   59

    6. I cannot believe what is going on in my parliment with these appalling people.How dare they do what they do.
    I want a General Election to have the chance to get rid of these people. And before we vote I want to see all those who have abused the system and who have not been elected ever, got rid of. Just for starters.

    - E Atkinson, Wolverhampton, 25/6/2009 8:06

    Click to rate     Rating   107

    7. I find it hard to believe that those voted into power and now refusing to go to the country for any kind of mandate to continue government have sunk so low.

    They witter on about how they are in their jobs to serve but in truth they serve only themselves. They talk of a new constitution and new rules and change but the only change I feel would be most appropriate is that some way was granted that we could call the election and not the man in charge.

    I am shocked, sickened and appalled at what feels like treasonable actions by these greedy self serving crooks with their lies and half truths, spin and sleight of hand actions and cover ups.

    I wish I felt more confident about those in opposition or the rest of them and they are going to have to work much harder before they get my vote. It seems to be a choice between bad and awful at present- they have lost my trust completely and I actually don’t want my life dictated by any of them.

    - ag, Cheltenham Glos, 25/6/2009 8:04

    Click to rate     Rating   41

    8. We have an unlected leader who is running around like a headless chicken and an unelected crook who is leading him to self destruction for his own secret agenda..

    - John Smith, London, England, 25/6/2009 8:02

    Click to rate     Rating   52

    9. The return of “Lord” Mandelson spelled, for me at least, the death knell of the Labour government. He and Blair really are amongst the most ugly faces of our so-called Government!!! Let’s dispatch them with haste – and let’s hope we DO get an open inquiry into the Iraq debacle!!!

    - Sue Shaw, Morpeth, UK, 25/6/2009 7:21

    Click to rate     Rating   80

    10. Mandy is running this country – the truth is coming out and Brown is his puppet. Mandy is unelected yet has more power than any MP it would appear, this must end now with a General Election. Unfortunately, we will still be stuck with Mandy (and any other unemployed MP after the next election) in the House of Lords still on the gravy train. We the people will be stuck with a huge debt for the foreseeable future, thank you NuLabour

    - Helen, crewkerne, 25/6/2009 7:20

    Click to rate     Rating   77

    11. Couldn’t Brown, for once, do the right thing, and allow a Public Inquiry into how the Iraq War was started, who wanted it, and why.

    We don’t need to know Defence Secrets, (other than why our Soldiers were not given the right equipment, but bonuses were paid to people in the Ministry of Defence}, so it is no excuse to deny a Public scrutiny because of national security.

    Gordon Brown has wrecked our Economy, been part of the removal of our Democracy, Freedom of Speech the break-up of the UK, and Sovereignty of our Parliament. Here is his chance to behave honourably. Let the people know the real truth.

    - Gerry, England, 25/6/2009 7:15

    Click to rate     Rating   61

    12. Whilst if true this should come as no surprise to any of us it begs the questions What do they have to hide and what are they afraid of?

    - Frank Spence, Maidstone, England, 25/6/2009 7:11

    Click to rate     Rating   57

    13. Mandy has a lot to answer for, just look at his track record, this man cannot be trusted.

    - ray smith, Alicante, Spain, 25/6/2009 7:09

    Click to rate     Rating   72

    14. TEFLON WILL REMAIN FIREPROOF FROM ANY RESPONSIBILITY, Whatever the enquiry results. He is running scared of what will be revealed if held in public and obviously has much to hide Time for the electorate to demand a total transparency so that our ex dictator feels the full force of the British venom for his actions over many things including the Iraq issue.

    - J R L G, Derbyshire U K, 25/6/2009 7:00

    Click to rate     Rating   62

    15. Are you suprised, after all Gormless is only prentending to be leader of the Labour party

    - Terry Stride, Tamworth great Britain, 25/6/2009 6:54

    Click to rate     Rating   36

    16. Can’t wait for the whistle-blower who lets us in on what Peter Mandelson has on Blair and Brown.

    - Ken, France, 25/6/2009 6:39

    Click to rate     Rating   47

    17. Is this any surprise that Lord Sleaze tried to protect Blair? Any enquiry which does not find Blair 100% guilty is a lie.

    - John Smith, Gillingham Kent, 25/6/2009 6:34

    Click to rate     Rating   40

    18. They think we do not know that! We went to war on a lie and deception both Blair and Bush knew this but Brown is not protecting Blair but himself! He was in the cabinet as well so do not be deceived yet again. One day the truth will come out and it will shock the world, Blair was a deceitful, our troops were killed and civilians slaughtered if there was nothing to hide why keep it secret

    - neil, amsterdam holland, 25/6/2009 6:32

    Click to rate     Rating   38

    19. Lord Mandelson stitched up a deal with Gordon Brown for a tame Iraq inquiry to protect Tony Blair, it is claimed today. Elsewhere it would be called a conspiracy!

    - DURHAM DUCK, Durham England, 25/6/2009 6:15

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    20. IF mandy was a well respected, well liked, intelligent, a good at his job man ..then I could understand brown’s eagerness to “elevate” him to the power he now seems to have… WE the people of this country have “the measure” of mandy but brown in his usual blundering inept fashion has jumped straight out of the frying pan and into the fire by “bowing and scraping” to this odious man..Its so obvious that mandy now is the one “pulling the puppet strings” that are firmly attached to brown

    - Beverley, Chichester, 25/6/2009 6:05

    Click to rate     Rating   37

    21. This shows that Mandelson is still up to his old tricks, and should not be part of any government. He is not to be trusted by anyone and should by rights be kicked out of any position of power if he is unelected, but Brown hasn’t got the bottle, the morals or the backbone.

    - antipolitician, uk, 25/6/2009 5:55

    Click to rate     Rating   36

    22. I’ve got an idea that most of us ‘out here’ knew.

    - hilary, preston, 25/6/2009 5:33

    Click to rate     Rating   31

    23. it is time that this dictatorship (for that is what we have has a govenment, the leader and a number of ministers have not been elected in to those positions by the people) was brought to an end – time for the people to look to a new brand – time for a new party of good thinking and true British citizens to take a place in westminster and make the changes that the MP’s dont wish to happen – time to make this Country of 4 Nations a better palce and once more a United Kingdom -

    - Anderso, Malmesbury UK, 25/6/2009 5:33

    Click to rate     Rating   34

    24. why is mandelson so powerful? He has not been elected so therefore does not represent anyone. Jobs for the boys maybe?

    - jim, NI, 25/6/2009 5:28

    Click to rate     Rating   36

    25. Bringing back the corrupt and odious ‘Mandy’ and making him a life peer shows us just what Gordon Brown is anyway.

    - D Shaw, Derby. England, 25/6/2009 5:26

    Click to rate     Rating   39

    26. Is anybody going to be in the least surprised?. This Bliar character new precisely what he was doing in siding with suppliers of dodgy information. It’s called feathering your nest. What a phoney. I await the day for the truth to be revealed that Bliar(and Nu Liebour) are shown for what phonies they are.

    - jim, Wirral,UK, 25/6/2009 4:40

    Click to rate     Rating   34

    27. Roll on the election, then the conservatives can order a new open enquiry and we can all see what liars Mr Blair/Brown/Mandelson really are.

    - Donna D, london, 25/6/2009 4:07

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    28. Is there a single person in this country who thought otherwise?
    Unfortunately for Mandy and Co there is now very little they can do to turn the tide of public opinion, and the enquiry will be more or less (though not 100%) an open affair.
    Who knows, we may yet see Teflon heading for the Hague to answer to the Tribunal. Even his glib tongue would not be much help there.

    - Bwj, Uk, 25/6/2009 2:42

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    29. So, the Iraqi invasion was a mistake was it?

    Well, considering it has introduced the concept of democracy to the Middle-east I think that the war was a very nice means of revenge on the region for 9-11.

    Now whilst that concept is going to take years/decades to take root, the seeds are sowed. Congratulations Iran….

    Oh – and the fabricated WMD are irrelevant really! But I wish that we could have a defence secretary who had served in the Armed Forces (which won’t happen under Labour obviously).

    - Tim, Nr. Milwaukee, 25/6/2009 2:28

    Click to rate     Rating   45

    30. This is why no one trusts labour and Gordon. There are far too many deals that are done behind closed doors. These people work for us and for the country. Not themselves.

    Mandelson is nothing but slime. He should never have been brought back to government.

    All we want is a general Election NOW.

    - eric victor, uk, 25/6/2009 1:25

    Click to rate     Rating   42

    31. Nothing surprises me about any of the corrupt Labour crooks, Mandleson, Blair ,Brown, and Alistair Campbell . But will they ever be caught ? doubt it.

    - jack, ashford.england, 25/6/2009 1:16

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    THE BAD: (Press & Comment) – “Blair ‘plan’ backfires” (The Times)

    June 28, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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  • Day 1: THE TRIALS, TRIALS & ‘TRIAL’ OF TONY BLAIR
  • Day 2: The ‘TRIAL’ of Tony Blair & Press/Internet Freedom
  • Day 3: The ‘TRIAL’ of Tony Blair – “The Independent can report that…”
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  • Comment at end

    28th June, 2009

    THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY

    SECOND – THE BAD

    THE ‘BRAINWASHED’ PUBLIC & HOW THEY GOT THAT WAY

    Part 2 of 3.  See also -

  • THE GOOD: (Press & Comments) – Aaronovitch, The Times
  • The UGLY: (Press & Comment) – The Mail & Spectator
  • I am also using a Times article for the second instalment of ‘The Good, The Bad & The Ugly’, aka the British press. NOT because it is one of the worst of the newspapers as far as Blair is concerned, but because it is usually one of the fairest. Even The Times could not resist proclaiming as FACT that the secret inquiry first mooted by Brown was all Blair’s machinations. The fact that Mr Brown too might have preferred “secret” for all sorts of reasons was ignored completely in their article.

    NOT ONLY, BUT ALSO …

    To back up their hardline on Blair’s behind-the-scenes malevolent and selfish ifluence they also throw in the supportive point of “new evidence” on the existence or otherwise of Saddam’s WMDs. This is meant to confirm to those still needing confirmation that the former prime minister has been “lying” all along and thus should be discredited and uncovered for what he is, trial …  inquiry or no inquiry. And so,  like the simple souls that we are, we are led to swallow en masse the poison.

    This new evidence is nothing of the sort, and has been around for years. In itself it proves and will prove NOTHING.

    The Times’ commenters too are indicative of the uphill battle Mr Blair has just to be heard, far less believed. So diverse and varied are the slings and arrows pointing in his direction that even if he disproves several accusations his atackers will have umpteen more weapons in their well-loaded quiff to bellow “cover-up”.

    The Times and the rest of the press currrently feed this.


    Times Article follows:


    Tony Blair faces calls to appear at public Iraq war inquiry after plan backfires

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    Tony Blair is said to have expressed fears that the inquiry could become a 'show trial' (John Thys/AFP/Getty Images)

    By Sam Coates, Chief Political Correspondent, The Times, 22nd June 2009

    Tony Blair faces calls to appear at public Iraq war inquiry after plan backfires

    Tony Blair tried to stop the Iraq war inquiry being held in public as new evidence emerged suggesting that he knew Saddam Hussein may not have weapons of mass destruction.

    The former Prime Minister lobbied Sir Gus O’Donnell, the head of the Civil Service, fearing that a public appearance at the inquiry, headed by Sir John Chilcott, could turn into a “show trial”.

    The move appears to have backfired this weekend, as it emerges that part of the inquiry will now be heard in public and Mr Blair is the focus of calls to appear.

    Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat leader, said this morning that the former Prime Minister cannot appear behind closed doors and must speak under oath. Otherwise “people [will] feel this is just a grand cover-up for, after all, what was the biggest foreign policy mistake this country has made since Suez”.

    Jack Straw, who was Foreign Secretary in the lead up to the Iraq war, said he was more than happy to appear in public, adding “I’m sure [Mr Blair] is too.”

    This news comes amid new evidence to suggest that Mr Blair knew that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction.

    A memo dated January 31, 2003, by Sir David Manning, then Mr Blair’s policy adviser, outlines how President Bush told Mr Blair he had decided on a start date for the war — almost two months before the invasion.

    Paraphrasing the President’s comments at the meeting, Sir David noted: “The start date for the military campaign was now pencilled in for March 10. This was when the bombing would begin.”

    The memo also suggested that Mr Blair and Mr Bush contemplated other scenarios that might trigger a second UN resolution, legitimising military action in case UN weapons inspectors failed to find WMD.

    Mr Bush told Mr Blair that they had developed plans to draw Iraq into combat by flying “U2 reconnaissance aircraft painted in UN colours over Iraq with fighter cover”. If Saddam Hussein fired at the planes, it would put the Iraqi leader in breach of UN resolutions.

    In public at this time, Mr Blair was justifying plans for an invasion on the grounds that Iraq might have weapons of mass destruction.

    Philippe Sands, a law professor and human rights campaigner, said that the existence of such evidence made it vital that the inquiry was not held in private.


    READ THE COMMENTS

    (NOTE: I have copied this as already published in The Mail. If anyone wishes me to remove their name, please contact me at this page. I will NOT publish your comment, unless you ask me too, but I will remove any name which does NOT wish to be associated with a site called “Tony Blair”. I understand. I think.)

    1. Do you think Blair will tell the truth no matter what oath he is bound under??

    wherethereishope, Hobart, Tasmania

    2. Of course he must appear in public as it was entirely Blair’s war.

    d.sloan, edinburgh, scotland

    3. And he wants to be President of the EU? Incredible. He’s the reason I left Britain in 2003. I was so ashamed….

    Roderick Low, Creysse , France

    4. Hey, c’mon guys, let’s draw a line under this OK? so, y’know, hey, maybe there was a little misunderstanding, and a few lives were lost but – hey – Saddam was basically a bad guy anyway OK?
    Let’s move on, guys, so I can fool some more poor saps, er, I mean save the world.

    Tony Blair, London,

    5. Of course he wants his testimony to be hidden from the rest of the world, including us. Many of our good servicemen and women lie dead because of this faked war.
    If he tells the truth he will never be President of the EU, if he is shown to lie he will be forced out of politics altogether.

    Marie, Plymouth, UK

    6. Call Blair, make him explain himself in public.

    Nathan Stevens, London, United Kingdom

    7. Reasons to hold a public enquiry. ‘So we may learn lessons’. How many times have we heard this statement from MPs. It infuriates me. As we can see from the expenses scandle, they do not learn lessons. The sooner we get a gereneral election the sooner we can get these jackasses out.

    Gerry, London, UK

    8. Until Tony Blair apologises properly and faces the humiliation of admitting to an illegal war, dictators will use his as a malign precedent to do wrong.

    Jonathan, Hertford, UK

    9. That inquiry has to be public. They ignored us when we marched in the streets in our millions so they had best have a damned good reason for spending our healthcare money on missiles. Dont allow the poloticians to wriggle out again; lets put them up before the law and try to find some truth in this.

    Peter Simmons, London, Uk

    10. Is it just imagination, or photoshop’s tricks?
    Doesn’t Mr Blair look so very old in John Thys photograph?
    A spent force?
    Yesterday’s man?
    Fading into oblivion?
    So many questions with no satisfactory answers.

    jim Ballantyne, sandhurst, UK

    11. War is one county (dictators, governments) using force to steal from another country.
    This is something you expect from a fare right country (usually against its own people).
    The people that cause them should be punished for the killing of humans for their materialist greed.

    War should be unacceptable in the 21st century.

    James Hallyburton, Pickering, UK

    12. Maybe, just ,maybe the thruth will come out in this enquiry about the death of Dr. David Kelly. However it will end up the same as the Hutton enquiry. A cover up.
    Alister Campbell MUST appear. He was the power behind the throne of King Tony & Queen Cherie. He was the ideas man.
    Joan

    Joan, Tennessee, , USA

    13. For those of us who are hoping Blair will finally get his well-deserved comeuppance, he wasn’t nicknamed Teflon Tony without good reason.

    John Graham, Shaftesbury, Dorset

    14. Reduce the scope of the enquiry and this reduces the time taken – the military and rebuilding aspects can be dealt with separately

    We are not talking a minor event here

    A million dead
    Several million displaced
    A country devastated
    $Trillions wasted

    For what?

    Revenge?
    Pride?
    Oil?

    R Bingham, Lauzun, France

    15. Blair said he has done what he beleived was correct,parrently it was not so why not have him on trial like every one else.
    Government was clearly mislead the public with regards to the motives.It was all to to do with the regiem change & black gold “oil nothing else. NO Wepons of mass destruction

    mano1000, romford, uk

    16. the public know there is a lot of dumb MP’s who also followed Blair blindly into war without so much as an ounce of respect for the people they are paid to represent

    liam, aberdeen, scotland

    17. Blair found it easy to go along with Bush: Neither of them had to put their lives, or the lives of their families on the line. If those deciding on war were asked to fight them, history would need to be re-written from the start.

    Derek Clifton, Andover, Hamoshire, England

    18. Not just Blair, but Campbell, Mandleson and anyone intimately involved. This is an inquiry where thousands have died in whats looks a needless war, all in the name of oil.

    Either we have Freedom of Information or we dont and if it turns in to a show trial then so be it!

    Robert D Marshall, London, UK

    19. Blair is more interested in making a few more millions from his book and speaking arrangements than bothering about more than 100 servicemen who have lost their lives in Iraq.

    David, Wimborne,

    20  I was hoping that we’d seen and heard the last of this despicable man Blair. He’s a war criminal who is responsible for the deaths of our soldiers and thousands of Iraqi soldiers and civilians. His actions are also the reasons for terrorism in Britain. Get him in the dock!

    Paul Savage, Lambourn, Berkshire

    21. We should have a public enquiry before a much more diverse panel of judges than those on offer and Jack Straw should be called to give evidence under oath about his extravagant claims about the existence of ‘Weapons of Mass Destruction.’

    Paul Underwood, Ruislip, England

    22. How do you know when a politician lies? Their mouth moves.

    Kate, Newcastle, England

    23. Everyone seems to have forgotten the death of Dr David Kelly.

    Janet Waterfall, XATIVA, Spain

    24. It is time to prove that without any doubt that this was an illegal war and that Tony Blair did everything possible to take us into this war.
    In my opinion he is responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people and destbilized the whole area.

    Barry Reed, Hounslow, UK

    25. Who cares – this will be a greater white wash than Hutton, whatever way it goes !!!!!

    IAN PAYNE, WALSALL,

    26. Blair must face this enquiry,it was his decision to lead us into this war.Their was a team in Iraq prior to the war who had found no evidence of weapons of mass destruction.The vast majority of decent people in this country did not agree with this invasion and still dont.

    duncan, st.albans, uk

    Cont:

    I don’t think we really ‘owe’ aquiescence to whatever America says beause of the events of over 40 years ago. As for the saving ourselves from invasion bit, from whom?

    P.S. It helps to disguise the fact you’re American if you refer to the country you pretend to belong to in the 1st person.

    William, Blackburn, UK

    27. Blair should be made to comment at the enquiry. He was the PM at the time and basically it was his decision to go to war. How can he avoid an appearance? The public have right to know why our soldiers died in Iraq!

    Robert, Hartlepool, UK

    28. You know, that Guy Fawkes chappie was onto something.
    Surely the current flavour of democracy in the house of commons is ripe for another total act of defiance.

    Joe, Geelong, VIC Australia

    29. History has a bad habit of cooking its own babies. I hope Tony Blair will be richly rewarded for his past achievements, certainly not show- trialling and sending him to the gallows. That will be a terrible mistake. Even David Cameron the Conservatives leader favours Blair for EU presidency.

    John, Southampton, UK

    30. I find it hard to believe that it makes any difference these days whether evidence is taken under oath or not. Are you allowed \to tell porkies as long as you are not under oath. That would seem to be the message!

    Brian Lewis, Manila, Philippines

    31. Of course he should appear at the enquiry. If he has nothing to hide, he has nothing to be concerned about. However, given his track record so far, I doubt he will come within cooee of the enquiry. This man believes he is some latter-day Messiah, well above the laws that govern the rest of us.

    Colin Cumner, Adelaide, South Australia

    32. Let’s have our say, Blair had his way for the term of his premiership, let’s have ours now. This is what we get for having a second rate car salesman as our PM. Aftrer him, even Brown should’ve appeared halfway able. Do you’re job Brown and hang on until after the Irish have been bullied into a yes.

    Jim, Brierley Hill,

    33. I hope the British people, and the present government understand that ex PM Tony Blair should be let off the hook this time. Helping America was the right thing to do. By doing so, the British people are helping and perhaps saving themselves from a future invasion of this island country.

    William, Stratford Upon Avon, UK

    34. The simple fact is this country owes an ocean of debt to US. Remember WW2, when Britain was at her darkest hours? And remember the Falkland when Thatcher asked for America’s OK and support before going to war with Argentina? The US saved Britannia from defeat by the Nazi. Blair had to stand by US.

    William, Stratford Upon Avon, UK

    35. rember blair stating that the killers of the omagh bombing would be caught and no stone would be left unturned to find them?its taken a private prosecution to get justice in the way of finacial penalties.blair all mouth no trousers

    mike, peterborough, uk

    36. SO WHEN ARE WE GOING TO STOP TALKING AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?

    Joe, Lincolnshire, UK

    37. Modern politicians regard themselves as above the law. They can libel and lie in Parliament with impunity. Their murky financial shenanigans are protected by arcane rules and customs. Their reputation can only be restored by subjecting them to the same standards and procedures as everybody else.

    Peter Cressall, La Lucila, Argentina

    38. We all know Sadam had WMD. He gassed the Kurds. UN definition, I repeat, UN definition, one more time, read, mustard gas is a WMD. Fact, fact, fact. I know you all want to go backward and cry about what? Iraq? A country that is in far better shape then Iran when it comes to freedom?

    jefCostello, Jasper, USA

    39. There’s no such thing as an illegal war, unless you lose (and by lose I mean sign a surrender document). As for the Army dead, something less than 200 so far. Compare that with Day 1 of WW1. They were soldiers, they get paid, they obey orders, they fight, they kill, they die. Get over it.

    SeaBee, Pinner, UK

    40. Can we re define the meaning for what is meant by W.M.D blair brand before starting the the public inquiry. I am sure blair will be interested in my idea!!

    Roberto , Readiing, Berks

    41. In deference to the hundreds of British DEAD … and the expenditure of Tax Payers mony … Mr Blair MUST be called to appear before a full and accountable Public examination. He used Public money … so he must explain his use of it. He MUST be publicly accountable.

    David Michael, London, UK

    42. The war was right; removing Saddam was right; bringing Democracy to Iraq was right; fighting Islamic fundamentalism is right.

    Guy from London… You come right out of a comic book.

    Michael, Malvern, UK

    43. Oh Yes get Blair up there…wipe that “joker” grin of his face.

    Steve Byrne, Christchurch,

    44. You can bet that he will only be asked questions which don’t compromise him. Remember the other enquiries, they are all form and no substance, just a charade prior to closing the book forever. They may govern us badly but they sure know how to look after themselves.

    Scott, Bangkok, Thailand

    45. I saw Blair discuss Iraq on the Jon Stewart Show last year. It was embarassing. He had no regrets but was badly informed about the Islamic world. He lumped all the different factions together and implied they shared a common agenda. He maintained that invading Iraq was necessary because of 9/11.

    mike, NY, USA

    46. So, Brown is saying, basically, that it is because of a previous Conservative decision, over a different enquiry, that he has decided to have the énquiry’ in private.

    We haven’t yet heard what his father would say, but no doubt we will. Will the prime minister never leave home?

    Robin Paine, Phnom Penh, Cambodia

    47. Allow him to speak… and he may even become the next prime minister…

    RafC, Cardiff, UK

    48. The net is closing in on Blair. Given he has nothing to do with government in this country it’s an absolute cheek that he should put pressure on Brown to hold the enquiry in secret. This could scupper his chances of being President of Europe, come on Gord either call a referendum or an open enquiry

    Dr Ian Burgess, Long Ashton,

    49. The war was right; removing Saddam was right; bringing Democracy to Iraq was right; fighting Islamic fundamentalism is right.

    Where the UK and US screwed up was not planning for the “peace” after the war.

    If I was Blair I’d refuse to turn up to the enquiry and let the anti-war pacifists stew

    Guy, London, UK

    50. I’ll book my seat now

    T Trebilcock, MANCHESTER, uk

    “…to get him elected to the EU Presidency.”

    Peter, dont scare us like that. And I guess an other way of disposing of Blair will have to be found. To much “weasel” and “old europe” talk and to many lies. People here and I assume also in France have not forgotten…

    Sven, Stuttgart, Germany

    51. Blair at “Public war enquiry?”……It should be public flogging.

    judy, Liverpool, England

    Does anyone remember that election poster with the red eyes? Illuminated prunes perhaps.

    Purgative Majority, UK,

    52. By the time any enquiry gets going the Irish will have voted FOR the Lisbon Treaty. The Treaty will have been ratified. Blair will be President of Europe. Brown, who will resign just after the Irish vote, will be European Finance Minister.

    Remember that it’s now illegal to criticise the EU….

    BaiDaLong, Beijing, China

    53. Oh dear! Oh dear! Oh dear! It looks like Tony Blair may have to face a war crimes court eventually after all. If it is shown the allies invaded Iraq illegally then Blair has to face a war crimes court for his actions.

    Stephen, St. Ives, England

    54. Oh, and – subpeona the witnesses.
    Expect a sudden application for US citizenship from Blair.

    JohnAnt, London, UK

    55. It was his messianic zeal that drove him forward, despite all the evidence and experts advising a more cautious approach. The country deserves closure, but given his ability to mask emptiness in rhetoric, I doubt we will get it.

    Duncan, London, United Kingdom

    56. I’d like to visit one of Saddam’s underground palaces.

    Adrian, London,

    57. Let me know when bLiar is scheduled to appear on TV, then I can “pencil” the date on my calendar. I think it may rank up there with a sqirmy thing in a squirmy competition……

    Andrew, Wrexham, UK

    58. Blair should be brought to account over this war. It should be in the public eye. We had and are still suffering many casualties day by day and to what end? The American ideological view of democracy? We can’t walk away and leave it now as we’ve interfered. Lessons need to be learnt.

    Robert, Hartlepool, UK

    59. Seems the Dutch are also holding an enquiry…….(in the open) and due to report before Chilcott…SO..it’ll be interesting firstly,to see if this memo ever sees the light of dayand secondly, how they explain away the dutch inevitable references to the memo referred to above.
    Finally Gotcha Tony

    RUSSELL MORRISON, INVERNESS, SCOTLAND

    60. We don’t need to spend ten years at a public enquiry, getting to the bottom of things.
    Put Blair on TV with Paxman for a couple of hours and the British people will have their answer.

    R Wilson, Whitchurch, Hampshire

    61. Evenif Saddam had weapons of mass destruction Bush and Balir ignored rhe UN and went to war after persuading parliament to agree. Therefore blair has to stand in the open and answer for what he did

    Kenneth Keane, Apremont Vendee, France

    62. Blair won’t want to appear before the Inquiry as this could scupper his and New Liebour’s plans to get him elected to the EU Presidency.

    PETER MARTIN, Hull,

    63. How will history look upon Britain? If you were a historian, what would you label this era as? I hope my kids won’t inherit a world where they’ll be pleading for General Elections, only to be ignored.

    Alex, London,

    64. Important though this is, is it not just further obfuscation from the fundamental requirement that we have an election? David Cameron can organise an enquiry after he wins.

    “John”, .,

    65. Blair was very much at the centre of the decision to go to war. After all he was Prime Minister at the time. I wish the enquiry could also call in Bush, Chaney & Rumsfeld should be included also. Courtesy of our Treaty with the US they can haul in Bankers & Hackers to US courts but not vice versa

    John Goode, Welwyn Garden City, UK




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    June 28, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    28th June, 2009

    THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY

    FIRST – THE GOOD

    THE ‘BRAINWASHED’ PUBLIC & HOW THEY GOT THAT WAY

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  • I have selected the below article (and its comments) by David Aaronovitch to try to illustrate how minds are already made up on the Iraq issue. This is despite the peculiarly narrow focus of most people – WMDs, dossiers, lies etc . These have given rise to the ‘WE ALL KNOW’ mantra repeated by the semi-informed. Yet, we are about to hold an Inquiry when most people already ‘know’.

    The end result? Either we are confirmed in our “knowledge” and we can send the “blamed” off to The Hague in chains, or we are  “cheated out of The Truth“.

    “Innocent until Proven Guilty” does NOT apply in this case.

    Got it? Good.

    Aaronovitch is, in the main, a supporter of  Tony Blair, the man and the politician. I have no doubt he has some doubts over certain policies, as we are all entitled to have. Here he makes a valiant effort to make the point about made-up minds as the Iraq Inquiy is about to get underway.

    Even here, at a site you might expect to be visited by those of Aaronovitch’s approach on innocence until guilt is proven, notice how difficult it is to find commenters who have open minds on Tony Blair and his Iraq decisions. I have bolded the few that are supportive.

    Also notice from supporters of Blair’s position that some of their arguments open up historical background. There is the question of “humanitarian interventionism”, the Blair doctrine set out in 1999 in his Chicago speech, revisited this year. This credo seems still to have little hold on those who were/are against the Iraq invasion. They are tied to the “leave well alone” tact, even when “well” does not exist.  Their argument is - we can’t intervene everywhere so why intervene anywhere? 

    Sadly, I do not see any of the thinking behind Blair’s doctrine given air-time in the Inquiry, since it was pre-2001, unless raised by naysayers as proof of his “warmongering” intent. Blair did put forward this credo again a few months ago, only slightly altered from the original.

    The minds made up issue is a major reasons I see this Inquiry as “flawed”, as referred to in my first ‘TRIAL of Tony Blair’ post here.

    There are many accusations of revisionism as well as arrogance and hubris. There are also possibilities that the US/UK government were trying to compensate for earlier errors, such as missing vaid Intelligence information (9/11), and a later understanding of links to other states and their engagements and arrangements with such organisations as Al Qaeda and other terror groups.

    If anything, with this wider understanding and realisation perhaps we in Britain should NOT be determined to ‘hang” leaders but instead laud them for doing what they thought was right.

    But WILL the Inquiry bring with it wider understanding of anything in this regard? I doubt it.

    Aaronovitch’s article and comments follow:


    Even if it’s all in public, they’ll cry whitewash

    Of course the entire Iraq inquiry should be open. But that will take time and is still unlikely to satisfy critics of the war

    By David Aaronovitch

    It’s a fun day for Sir John Chilcot, because he will get to meet both Nick Clegg and David Cameron to talk about his inquiry into the Iraq War. He will find them, I am sure, wanting nothing that is not best for the country, or that would be unconducive for the learning of important lessons.

    And I hope, given that I’ve put his name in the first paragraph and that this is, after all, The Times, Sir John will also read this article, urging upon him that he hold the entire inquiry in public, despite my certainty that it will, in one important sense, do no good, because it will change no one’s minds.

    The bit that won’t happen is the supposed “truth and reconciliation” element in which a cynical public is satisfied that – at last – there has been an accounting. This is impossible. Some of the most exalted and popular opponents of the war are implacable in their interior knowledge of the wrongness of the conflict and of the perfidy that led up to it. No facts or interpretations that they could possibly hear would ever change their minds. Instead, they await the unlikely moment when their beliefs are demonstrated, by some hidden memorandum or mandarin testimony, to be utterly and irrefutably correct. Then, perhaps, they will get the Trial of Tony Blair for War Crimes that they have been wanting for so long – the final scratch to their intolerable itch.

    I was reminded about this implacability when the splendid broadcaster Jon Snow put in a cameo appearance at my session on conspiracy theories at the Hay Festival last month and delivered the opinion that there had been a real conspiracy to get us into the Iraq War, and that I had been one of the dupes of the conspirators.

    Just last Sunday the amnesiac inventiveness of critics was demonstrated when one newspaper excitedly detailed a memo that it had seen of a 2003 meeting between George Bush and Mr Blair, adding that “Gordon Brown’s critics fear a closed inquiry will also black out embarrassing truths. Today’s revelations will only fuel the fire.” In fact the memo – which was very selectively quoted – had been “revealed” on Channel 4 News and in The New York Times three and a half years earlier.

    For six years now – and, of course, it can be understood – the war’s critics, unconfronted with the alternative reality that their preferences would have bestowed upon the world, have had it all to themselves. The war was “immoral”, “illegal” (so why no prosecutions in all that time?) and fought under a “false prospectus”. Claims of up to two million dead in Iraq have been bandied about and believed. Any of the inquiries into events leading up to the war have been dismissed as whitewashes, essentially for failing to give the answer that critics want; that answer being that there was a deliberate and wicked attempt to fool the peoples of America, Britain and the world into war.

    The Hutton inquiry, of course, wasn’t about that. But critics wanted it to be and when – as had seemed to me fairly inevitable – Lord Hutton (all of whose evidence was heard in public) criticised the BBC for running a wrong story and refusing to correct it, he was excoriated. Often by people who had never (and still have never) read his report.

    Then came Lord Butler of Brockwell, who looked at intelligence failures in the run-up to the war. He did criticise the Government, and how its “informality” had “reduced the scope for informed collective decision making”. But this is what Lord Butler’s committee said about the evidence: “We have reached the conclusion that prior to the war the Iraqi regime… had the strategic intention of resuming the pursuit of prohibited weapons progammes, including, if possible, its nuclear weapons programme… In support of that goal [it] was carrying out illicit research and development and procurement, activities… [and it] was developing ballistic missiles.” Not whitewash maybe, but “mandarin understatement” said the more intelligent critics.

    Lord Butler’s was the consensus in 2001-03, or as Sir Menzies Campbell put it on publication of the September 2002 dossier: “We can also agree that Saddam most certainly has chemical and biological weapons and is working towards a nuclear capability.” Or Robin Cook, writing in February 2001: “We must not be deceived. Saddam still threatens his neighbours. Unchecked, Iraq could develop offensive chemical and biological capabilities, and develop a crude nuclear device in about five years.”

    So the “lies” weren’t lies at all, leaving just one extant charge of culpable dishonesty – that Mr Blair and Mr Bush secretly decided on war in 2002, come what may. I went into this at length with those I interviewed for a series on the Blair premiership in late 2007. Sir David Manning, his foreign affairs adviser and later Ambassador to the US told me that Mr Bush had agreed with Mr Blair that, were Saddam to comply fully with international obligations, there would be no need for invasion because they would have effectively “crated the guy”. There was no prior hidden compact.

    The irony of the discussion on an open inquiry, is that I think Mr Blair would probably be the star turn, pointing out some of the above and that, as a consequence, critics would declare another whitewash. And, though this would be a waste of time, at least we’d be able to tell Jon Snow and others that it had been done.

    But a serious inquiry could help with two things. The first seems to be specifically precluded by the time frame given to Sir John, and that would be to investigate whether Britain had, from 1980 on, effectively encouraged Saddam’s belligerence towards his neighbours. This constitutes the unheld inquiry into the First Gulf War.

    The second is the area where Sir John should concentrate, which is on how postwar planning in Iraq was done, how the wrong things were anticipated and the right things overlooked, how a fantasy of policing and governance was constructed, and why warnings from those on the ground were ignored. And whether such mistakes are inevitable or could be avoided. This is what we really need to know, and what might save lives in the future.

    What Sir John should also tell Mr Cameron and Mr Clegg is this: you can have open or you can have quick, but you can’t have both. If you are going to get dozens of folk going on the stand in full view, they will have to prepare, and natural justice demands they are allowed to do so. Quick and open may be gaudy politics but it is bad inquiring.


    COMMENTS (51)

    GB: actually the German and French proposed a 3 month extension along with more intrusive inspections -nothing ‘indefinite’.

    Neither the US nor the UK wanted inspections to work -that’s why they undermined them. When it started to become obvious that Iraq was weaponless, they attacked.

    David Traynier, Colchester, UK

    Mmmm, yes indeed, these interesting little points do have to be squeezed out of you don’t they? It wasn’t quite as simple as a blood thirsty Bush and compliant Blair as you would have us all believe, was it? So, an indefinite wait in the Kuwaiti desert was all the French demanded, how reasonable!

    GB, Hong Kong,

    No GB, the French refused to endorse military action *at that point* -not under any circumstances.

    Also, Bush announced on March 17th that the US would invade, even if Saddam went into exile and this was confirmed by Ari Fleischer the following day. Check into the facts.

    David Traynier, Colchester, UK

    Of course Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11. But it brought to a head how we deal with rogue states like Saddam’s Iraq. Does anyone recall the moves to force Saddam and his family into exile, scuppered by French refusal to endorse any military action against him, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!

    GB, Hong Kong,

    “The second is the area where Sir John should concentrate, which is on how postwar planning in Iraq was done,”

    I think that highlights one of the biggest problems – postwar planning was done in Iraq when it should have been done in Britain before they left.

    Steve, Peterborough,

    I think most of us will think it is entirely pointless. As for lies – the line that Saddam could launch an attack on the UK in 45 minutes was not denied, but who in the Government believed it was true and that the the UK was ready, willing and able to cope with such an attack ?

    Tom, Aldershot, UK

    Whether it is held in private or in public, the Chairmans remit will ensure that it will be another whitewash.

    Nu-labour will do what it is best at doing i.e. looking after its own self interest and based upon its track record will not be overly concerned by a lack of honesty or transparency.

    R McCarty, Nagasaki, Japan

    GB, Hong Kong. Iraq had zero involvement with 9/11. Indeed, Saddam Hussein had made repeated efforts to restore friendly relations with the US, which were rebuffed

    The French Govt. argued for 3 more months of inspections and an ongoing verification regime. The US ensured violence, not the French.

    David Traynier, Colchester, UK

    Proponents argue that 1441 authorized force if Iraq did not take its ‘final chance’ to disarm. This is contrary to the statements of Greenstock and Negroponte at the time, who said 1441 had ‘no automaticity’. More to the point, when did the Security Council rule Iraq had violated 1441? Answer? Never

    David Traynier, Colchester, UK

    For goodness sake get real. Anyone who believes this had nothing to do with 9/11 must be crazy. Yes we can bemoan the consequences, but we had little choice but to sort out the Saddam regime once and for all after 9/11 – with better support from the French it might well have been done peacefully.

    GB, Hong Kong,

    Mark, Berkhamsted – Lord Bingham referred to the United Nations Charter, which sets out that force could not be used unless it has been authorised by the Security Council. Was force authorised by the Security Council?

    Ian Sinclair, London, UK

    Mark, if there’s no such thing as international law, why was Lord Goldsmith asked for an opinion on whether invading Iraq would be legal and why did he give it? The fee? How could the UN Charter bind Iraq but not us?

    You’re confusing a lack of a universal enforcement mechanism with a lack of law.

    David Traynier, Colchester, UK

    Ian Sinclair – The 1st thing you learn as a baby lawyer is that judges are not necessarily good lawyers. At exactly what point in time was the ‘international law’ described by Bingham endorsed by any authority mandated to do so? Just because academic lawyers say it is ‘law’ does not make it so.

    Mark, Berkhamsted,

    @ Dr Kevin Law & Julian Van Lare.
    Your feelings are understandable. The author has all the pitch and timbre of a humanitarian, but none of the diligence; hence curiosities like his endorsement of our lethal, tragic attack on Iraq. I daresay he makes warmongers all over the UK sleep more soundly.

    Chris Gibney, London , UK

    No credence can be given to the contents of the 2003 dossier. Careful reading of the Hutton report evidence would make it obvious that not only the tone, but the content was unduly influenced by members of the inner circle at No 10. Hutton’s conclusions were risible.

    Hayden, Somewhere, Great Britain

    I’m so tired of all this outcry about Iraq. Britain can’t cope with the idea that after the Second World War has become an internationally irrelevant country. The only positive thing it has had since then are Tony Blair and his policies, an unbearable remainder of how much Britain is wrong.

    Dana Portswood, Florence , Italy

    If there IS a public enquiry cover-up/whitewash, it will be a case of ‘done in secret at a public meeting’.

    Regent Exeter, Shifnal,Shropshire, UK

    @ Dr Kevin Law, Dundee, UK

    “I always start a David Aaronovitch article by thinking he is talking nonsense and by the time i finish I am nodding in agreement. surely the sign he is a great journalist. “

    I couldn’t agree with you more, except I always know I’m about to be educated!

    Julian Van-Lare, London,

    Mark, Berkhamsted – as a Lawyer of 25+ years I presume you are familiar with Lord Bingham, a former Senior Law Lord, desribed by this paper as “the pre-eminent lawyer of his generation”? Well he noted the invasion “a serious violation of international law and the rule of law”. Is he wrong?

    Ian Sinclair, London, UK

    “Wars are very particular things and civilised nations can’t just have them when they feel like it or when they feel they have run out of options. Wars have to be justified, overwhelmingly, by a conviction that the alternative to war is actually worse.”

    D. Aaronovitch, Independent August 8th 2002

    David Traynier, Colchester, UK

    Matthew – at the time of the invasion both Amnesty and HRW were counting Saddam’s victims in the hundreds per year. According to a 2006 report published in the Lancet 655,000 Iraqis have died because of the invasion and according to a 2008 ORB survey over one million Iraqis have died.

    Ian Sinclair, London, UK

    Its funny. I always start a David Aaronovitch article by thinking he is talking nonsense (just another old lefty liberal) and by the time i finish I am nodding in agreement. surely the sign he is a great journalist.

    Dr Kevin Law, Dundee, UK

    Agree completely. As a lawyer of 25+ yrs I will scream if I hear one more person assert what is against ‘international law’. ‘International law’ is little more than the a rag bag of theories based on the writings of saints, 17th century treaties and dysfunctional academic lawyers. It is not ‘law’.

    Mark, Berkhamsted,

    While there still is suspicion that the decision to go to war against Iraq occurred years before, (even before Sept 2001) then an open and public enquiry is still necessary. Given the arguments for invasion given here, why not Darfur or Zimbabwe etc? Invasion plans look selective, Mr A, – discuss.

    Bob Ericson, Tewkesbury Glos, UK

    Mr Aaronovitch is in no position to patronise critics of the war. Those who saw through the spin, foresaw the WMD myth and warned of the slaughter that occupation would bring – i.e. those who weren’t so cravenly duped as the author – are better placed than most in interrogating our belligerent actions.

    Chris Gibney, London , UK

    Yet another enquiry now is pointless, it’s a sop to the far left in the Labour party to keep them out of Brown’s hair. What I would like to see is a thorough and careful construction of what the world would have looked like if we hadn’t invaded. Including Libya’s nuclear weapon program for instance.

    Ian, Oxford, UK

    And just supposing, for the sake of argument, that the final report excoriates the naivete of DA and his fellow travellers, and supports a view that the war was neither necessary nor strictly justified. Would he be prepared to change his mind? Or would he move the goalposts of the argument once more

    Stu, London,

    The crucial point is to determine what all the drivers were which propelled Blair into the War. That might be uncomfortable for some since Labour Party funding should also come under scrutiny and also to what lobbying by & for whom was Blair exposed as well as Bush.

    Damian, Brighton,

    if we cared about people suffering oppression or dying needlessly, we would be intervening far more often. getting rid of saddam was a legitimate aim as far as I’m concerned (though the arguments put forward were far from convincing). target a few dictators and they will die out very quickly.

    jem, london, uk

    If all this stuff is self-evident, why did Robin Cook feel the need to resign?

    Generalissimo Hernandez, Edinburgh,

    Peter Donson, what truly shocks me is the casual disregard the anti-war enthusiasts have for the very great number of people that were being killed month in month out, and the very great number more being maimed and scared for life month in and month out by Sadam. Do they not care at all about them?

    Matthew, Ringwood, UK

    There is no need for an inquiry at this stage. There is a need for a ruling from the International Court of Justice on the legality of the 2003 invasion and an estimate of any reparations due to Iraq. Anyone that cares at all about international law should be calling for this simple first step.

    Themos Tsikas, Oxford,

    What truly shocks me is the casual disregard the war enthusiasts have for the very great number of people killed, and the very great number more maimed and scared for life. Do they not care at all about peoples lives.

    Peter Donson, Southwell, Notts, UK

    Are you really surprised it will not satisfy the critics?
    The Telegraph outs MPs expenses, MPs release redacted expenses, all we know is what they did NOT want us to see. If you beleive that the government, especially this government will be ‘transparent’ and open, then you are a simpleton.

    Rob Bain, derby,

    leon de graf? ‘let’s look forwards’?? You obviously are, living in NZ. Why don’t you leave britain to those on the streets. I don’t want to let leaders brush wrongs under the carpet.

    Rj, Leeds,

    The oilfields of Iraq were carved up on the map long before 9/11.
    See Barbara Walters interviewing Paul O’Grady on ABC.

    Peter, Lichfield, England

    It’s easy to support the Iraq decision if you believe that Western realpolitik is equitable to the rest of the world, and so West-haters must be either unreasonable or irrational.

    But not so easy if you believe that Western populations are not rational enough to let their leaders act equitably.

    Simon Stephenson, Windermere, UK

    Typical Aaronovitch. Decide your comclusion then construct the approach with the usual derision of any countervailing views.

    David, Bromley,

    So, given some comments here, when are we invading Iran?

    Minnie Ovens, London, UK

    Could we have a public enquiry into the greatest mass fraud in history – Globalwarmismclimatechange?

    John Bowman, Sarlat, France

    I’m a though critic of the Iraqi war, and more in general of the “Grand Imperial Strategy” the US announced in 2002 (aka as “National Security Strategy). After reading this piece, I believe the whitewash is already started. So the author was right!

    Salvatore, Cambridge,

    “If nothing is eventually found, I – as a supporter of the war – will never believe another thing that I am told by our government, or that of the US ever again. And, more to the point, neither will anyone else. Those weapons had better be there somewhere.”

    David Aaronovitch, April 29, 2003

    Ian Sinclair, London, UK

    Everything David Aaronovitch says about Iraq applies equally to Iran and North Korea. I see no response to those countries that matches the American and British response to the Iraq threat.

    Gerry Lewis, London, UK

    Everyone knows everything, provided it fits their world view. The rush to judgment on any given subject by journalists, bloggers and the public is appalling and damaging. It’s different when you are actually in a position of responsibility and have to take decisions based on imperfect information.

    Tessa, Bury St Edmunds, UK

    Any enquiry will be useless. The truth is already known by those who engineered it and also by those thinking people who can do nothing about it. The enquiry into 9/11 for eg did not have a straight answer in the obfuscation,disinformation. and politician speak.
    However, the people are waking up.

    wherethereishope, Hobart, Tasmania

    D.A. has hit several nails absolutely on the head. Further enquiry would be a reflection of the sad state of this country which is becoming obsessed with looking backwards. Let us move forward, change our “democracy” to fit the times and hope the inexact science of leadership better fits our needs.

    leon de graff, christchurch, NZ

    Tough

    wheeler, shanghai,

    … whether such mistakes are inevitable or could be avoided. This is what we really need to know, and what might save lives in the future.

    I believe launching the nations military into an avoidable conflict might save lives in the future too. Perhaps more time needs spending on this issue first.

    Joe, Geelong, VIC Australia

    If the enquiry does not correctly identify and document the true timeline of decision making in an open forum with accountability for any deliberate acts to deceive either by concealment or by will, then it is not worth holding.
    Which came first, invasion commitment or case for war ?
    It’s critical

    Joe, Geelong, VIC Australia

    ‘ Even if it’s all in public, they’ll cry whitewash ‘.
    Of course they will, because that’s all it’s ever going to be. An independent war Crimes Trial will only satisfy opponents of the invasion – because they are aware of the true facts already.That’s not Conspiracy Theory.

    colin, brighton, Uk

    Well, David, i have read the Hutton enquiry report and it is a disgraceful document, mind-changing for one who really believed in the integrity of the judicial system before this appalling document was published with its ludricous, irrational and biased ‘conclusions”

    an englishman abroad, hamilton




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    The Mirror & Their Lying Picture of Blair – just for the record

    June 28, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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  • TONY BLAIR VISITS GAZA – OR IRAQ  (WITH SPENT ROCKETS TO PROVE IT)

    Except the picture was taken in Sderot, ISRAEL and shows Hamas-launched rockets which landed in Israel.

    In case The Mirror accidently falls over its conscience and admits it made a mistake I thought I’d do them the honour of copying all of their article today, and pasting it here, just for the record. I failed to do so, regrettably, in the case of Lord Ahmed’s threat of  “10,000 Muslims marching on Parliament”. This disappeared off the internet shortly after it was posted, and was then denied by Ahmed.  Just in case this happens again, I have pasted below The Mirror’s misleading picture and article as it appears right now at 4:00pm, Sunday 28th June, 2009.

    I had an e-mail from someone suggesting that it is WORSE than it looks.

    It looks as though Tony Blair is standing in front of used weaponry IN IRAQ,  given that the whole article is about Iraq.

    Good point.

    My original dispute as in the earlier post was that it implies, if you look at the picture’s name, that it was taken in Gaza. (You have to hover over the Mirror’s picture to see what they had named it - Tony_Blair_visits_gaza_pic_Getty_877785464.jpg)

    Of course the average internet browser would NOT think of doing this. Most people would put two and two together, in the usual way, and get five, concluding …

    The article is about Iraq – thus, so is the picture.

    A double whammy of lies.

    So, it’s even worse than it looks.

    Apologies due to Mr Blair, The Mirror?


    Article from The Mirror follows:


    Tony Blair and Gordon Brown to blame over Iraq war, says Army report

    By Rupert Hamer 28/06/2009

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    A secret report by Army bosses to be presented to the Iraq war inquiry blames Tony Blair and Gordon Brown for the botched occupation of the country.

    The dossier – prepared for ex-military chief General Sir Mike Jackson – criticises then Chancellor Mr Brown for withholding funds to rebuild Basra for FIVE months after our troops went in. And the 100-page document attacks Mr Blair for “uncritically” accepting flawed US plans for the March 2003 invasion, which led to tens of thousands of deaths, including those of 179 British troops.

    The report – Stability Operations in Iraq – will not be officially made public because the inquiry’s head, Sir John Chilcot, ruled all documents will remain secret.

    But the contents have been leaked to the Sunday Mirror.

    We can reveal that a lack of cash for the operation meant British troops sent to fight in Iraq:

    Used mobile phones to communicate in combat because radios did not work.

    Were forced to leave wounded soldiers on the battlefield for an average of two-and-half hours before getting them to a field hospital.

    Needed more “spy in the sky” aircraft to track rebel fighters.

    Lacked machine guns, night- vision equipment and grenade launchers when protecting supply convoys.

    Were in danger of breaching the Geneva Convention by having so few resources. The convention says occupiers must provide vital services such as humanitarian aid and water.

    In a broadside at the then PM Mr Blair, the report says the battle for the hearts and minds of ordinary Iraqis was lost because of a lack of planning and the five-month delay in starting to rebuild their country.

    It says: “The failures to plan… seriously hindered Coalition chances of stabilising post-Saddam Iraq. The lack of improvements to essential services and the standard of living together with disorder meant many locals who were ’sitting on the fence’ were not persuaded to support the Coalition.”

    It was only after riots in Basra in August 2003 that Mr Brown agreed to release £500million for reconstruction work, the report says.

    And it contradicts six years of Government spin which claimed ordinary Iraqis backed the “liberation”, saying troops “found themselves fighting insurgents without clear support (from local people)”.

    MOST DAMNING CONCLUSIONS:

    Flawed US plans were rubberstamped by Blair

    Brown blocked vital funding for five months

    It took mass rioting in Basra to make him pay up

    Chaos lost us the battle for Iraqi hearts & minds




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    Celebrating 10 years of Scottish Devolution & 2 years of Brown’s “leadership”

    June 27, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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  • A DOUBLE CELEBRATION FOR SOME THIS WEEK

    Today the present prime minister has celebrated lasting two years. Cheers, Gordon.

    And in Scotland on July 1st they will have had ten years of devolution. Also linked at Blair Foundation Watch (yes, Blair was the British PM who “founded” devolution.)

    So it’s all YOUR fault, Mr Blair, of course. As always.

    Just think – if you had managed to withstand the torrent of knives in your back in September 2006 we might never have had Gordon.

    And Scottish devolution! If you had resisted THAT we might never have had this.

    Why do you always insist on giving the people what they think they want?

    It’s so unpolitical these days. So undemocratic – some might say.

    By the way, it is interesting how little thanks is given to the Labour government for devolution at the BBC website. Still, David Cameron now admits his party was wrong to be against it. Election in the air?

    By the way, THANK YOU, Mr Blair. For one of the above, anyway.

    Sort of.

    (Blair, June 27th Parliament – “And that is that. The End.”)

    And so The Word was spake. And so it was.




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    The Mirror & A PANICKING Routledge: “HELP, TONY! GORDON needs You!

    June 27, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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  • UPDATE: The lying Daily Mirror. A PICTURE PAINTS A THOUSAND LIES. The Mirror today leaks the information that a certain military man BLAMES Blair & Brown over Iraq issues. No surprises there, then. But it does something FAR worse. In a sign of their desperation their PICTURES even lie. This picture was NOT of Gaza. It was taken in Israel and was a photograph of some of the rockets thrown into Sderot by HAMAS FROM GAZA. Mr Rupert Hamer, Mr Routledge will be proud of you. (See picture here at end for proof of The Mirror’s blatant abuse of this picture, aka lying.)

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    HAPPY 2ND ANNIVERSARY GORDON

    LOVE FROM PAUL ROUTLEDGE

    This is hysterical in BOTH senses of the word. UNBELIEVABLE stuff - from Paul Routledge at The Mirror. Today of all days he is yelping for HELP for Gordon Brown from Tony Blair.

    TONY BLAIR!?

    In common with other Old Labour ‘loyalists’ who thought Blair had lost it over Iraq if not before, Routledge was delighted to see the back of Blair exactly two years ago today. And he was no doubt hopeful that we would never hear the dulcit tones of Tone the sweet-talker again. Especially as Gordon was there to save the day, the party and the world with his stern, steady-as-she-goes-ness.

    Probably.

    Suddenly, as Labour faces a wallop in the next general election, he comes out with this priceless gem:

    ‘Tony Blair signed off his premiership with the words: “Wherever I am, I’m with you.”
    Never can such an outright fib have been uttered by a Labour leader. Where has he been in the last six months of Gordon Brown’s travails? His silence is deafening, though the sneering disloyalty of his outriders at Westminster is loud and persistent. Instead, he has allowed his recidivist MPs to undermine the Prime Minister just when folk need a Labour government.
     
    Exaggeration and inexactitudes are enemies of honest journalism, Mr Routledge. But then you already know this. (See Routledge on Oborne below.)  But as for “treachery” … is your memory THAT short?  Mine isn’t. NorMr Blair’s. But I doubt his painful memories of the September 2006 coup by Brown’s cohorts is the reason he has said little about Brown’s premiership.  He has said little because he said he would not interfere, as the job is hard enough without back-seat drivers. As Mr Rentoul reminded us Blair’s last words two years today were, “That is that. The end.” And it was. And probably is. Nothing more to say, really.

    You should take a leaf out of the book of John Rentoul and KNOW your subject.

    But then I WOULD say that, wouldn’t I?


    FIBBING

    But at least we know that Tony Blair has never told a bigger fib. So we can presume that Routledge will NOT be joining the inevitable B.Liar brigade outside his trial … the inquiry?


    And as for exaggeration -

    “Never can such an outright fib have been uttered by a Labour leader.”

    NEVER ? NO other Labour leader has EVER told a more outright fib? And as for Blair  - this even outdoes his other “fibs” such as on Iraq?

    (Routledge, Kafkaesque war on Iraq, November 2002)

    Routledge: “Tony Blair has not proved that Saddam Hussein is a direct threat to life in Britain. His arsenal of “weapons of mass destruction” is largely a figment of the security services’ imagination.

    Or perhaps that was NOT a Blair “fib”, but merely folly or a sign of his “madness”.

    And we can’t try or convict a ‘madman’, now can we?

    REALLY, Mr Routledge. This, if it’s meant to be journalism, is getting silly.


    Take a peep at Routledge’s critique, if that’s the word, of Peter Oborne’s “The Triumph of the Political Class” to see how upset journalists can become when THEIR side does not make all the running, or even score any the goals. Neither Routledge NOR Oborne’s sides managed to score much in recent years. So they BOTH conclude it must be the fault of corruption at the heart of the hated “enemy” (New Labour, in both cases.) Routledge agreeing with the right-wing Tory Peter Oborne about the ’seditious’ nature of journalism (note the LIES accusation by Routledge, my bolding): 

    Routledge: “Look at the reporting of the Gordon Brown on-off election debacle. It was savage. It exposed the greatest failure of spin since the slow unravelling of the lies about Iraq, which did for Blair.

     

    There is nothing like the politics show for a newspaperman. It is war reporting manqué.” Yes, we noticed.

     

    Compare this with his New Statesman article in 2001, (about Blair’s “tatoo on his pert little bottom”(!?) and his “shirts with busty nudes”, the then loyal Routledge also said this (my bolding):

    “Government whips are inspecting their wounds after an exercise to gag backbenchers went horribly wrong. BBC1’s On the Record hired half a dozen researchers to conduct a survey of Labour MPs about the wisdom of a US-UK war on Iraq. In line with ironclad policy, the whips instructed MPs not to take part. They defied in droves. The researchers were told to stop after 100 had voted. Fewer than ten agreed with Blair’s warmongering. Is this the first sign of life re-emerging in the Parliamentary Labour Party?”

    November 2002 – Kafkaesque Iraq

    A PICTURE PAINTS A THOUSAND LIES – COURTESY OF THE MIRROR

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    Blair in Sderot, Israel, with mortars and rockets fired FROM Gaza. The Mirror today suggests the complete opposite from the TRUTH here. In other words it LIES. Hover over the picture to read the caption provided by The Mirror here - http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/06/28/army-blair-brown-to-blame-over-iraq-115875-21477530/




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    Tony Blair in conversation (via The Economist, a generally FAIR publication)

    June 27, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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  • Video of Tony Blair in conversation with Matthew Bishop, New York bureau chief for The Economist.


    Don’t you just MISS this?  The easy conversation, smattered with relaxed jokes among serious points? Well, don’t you?

    If not  – WASSAMARRAWIYOU?  You dumb or sumpin?

    KATIE COURIC CBS INTERVIEW

    Want more like this? Mr Blair also spoke a few days ago to Katie Couric of CBS in a videod 38 minute interview here - on Iran, accusations of British interference, Obama’s “balanced” response. 

    MAIN POINTS: 

    A “sense of hope & possibility” in the Middle East since Obama’s election, comparing Obama’s “interference” problem to his own position over any (perceived) criticism of Zimbabwe. 

    On Gaza – political precise territory, borders, Jerusalem, right of return etc, but in this small strip of land, the ‘on the ground reality’ for the Israelis is ‘SECURITY’. The Palestinian concern is ‘THE OCCUPATION’ and the split, Gaza & West Bank. “You’ve got to try and build this from the bottom up within the communities”. On leadership style, comparing Bush & Obama he said Bush took some very difficult and courageous decisions. ”A combination of soft and hard power will be the solution needed”. 

    On Iraq & President Bush, he was asked “was Bush bad for America’s reputation“, Mr Blair said “what is true was that he was, as I was, a figure of great controversy, but I also think that we also have to look at what is happening in Iraq today, and think would that be happening if Saddam was still running Iraq.”

    Asked – “why were you so loyal to President Bush on Iraq?” he said “because I believed in it.  I always said that after 9/11 we had to take a completely different view of the security threats we faced and we had to stand up and fight for what we believed in.”  On charges of the Iraq invasion being the ‘biggest recruiting tool for Al Qaeda’ he said the day we believe that is the day we have our values upside down.

    He also spoke about the Health services in the USA & UK.

    On British politics, asked about the expenses scandal, he said, “I’ve learned that anything I say is written down and used as evidence against me in UK politics.”  Won’t criticise anyone doing the “tough job” of PM.

    On the Iraq Inquiry he is perfectly willing “absolutely” to appear and answer questions in public.

    Asked – “does any of the things on the internet scare you, not from a security standpoint but in terms of …?” Mr Blair offered -

    “The thinking? Yeah, absolutely. One of the the troubles with this too is that people have a natural appetite for conspiracy theories and that’s a bit dangerous too.”

    Couric continued, “And the kind of things they are able to write under the cloak of anonymity?”

    Blair, “Yeah, I think there are huge advantages in this internet revolution and they far outweigh the disadvantages but the disadvantages are there.”

    He also talked on the unrest in the Middle East and negotiating a Palestinian state, and the “on the ground reality concerns” – ’security’ for the Israelis, and ‘the occupation’ for the Palestinians. Key to resolving this is “to build from the bottom up.”

    On his Faith to Face programme saying that in our globalised world faith can work for good or ill, and that we must make it work for good. 


    From the 92nd Street Y Online site:

    Tony Blair, Britain’s former Prime Minister and current Special Envoy to the Middle East, was at 92Y on Monday evening for The Business of Giving with Matthew Bishop, New York bureau chief for The Economist. The two spoke about Iran, Iraq, global warming, the Middle East, Africa, and much more. “Charming to a tee,” said blogger The Brooklyn Socialite.

    The Jewish Week covered Blair’s frank comments on Israel and Palestine. “The Arab world today actually wants the issue [the Israeli-Palestinian conflict] resolved,” he said. “That gives us an opportunity.”

    According to the Times of London, Blair thought “that it was impossible to predict the outcome of protests in Iran over the landslide presidential election victory claimed by the incumbent, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.” Since then, the government of Iran has made their intentions more clear, with the LA Times reporting that that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will be sworn in for a second term by mid-August.

    Blair’s most interesting remarks might have been on Globalization and America’s place in it. Vikie Karp at True/Slant wrote:

    In his introductory remarks about the future of globalization and achieving justice and equality for all on an international scale, Blair said “We are a global community. And its chief attribute is that no one nation, not even this great nation of America, can do it on its own. In any case, power is shifting East and it is shifting quickly. Countries like India and China will take their rightful place. And it’s galvanizing people, too. Look at Iran today. So that’s my theory, and if I’m right, the countries of the global community must work in alliance with each other, and with equality, and it will work only if there is a feeling of obligation beyond their borders and a real belief that they can share values. If it’s simply a battle of interests, we will fail and the failure will be ugly.

    Also reported at the Blair Foundation Watch here

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    From the YouTube page:

    Tony Blair, Britain’s former Prime Minister and current Special Envoy to the Middle East, was at 92Y on Mon, Jun 22 for The Business of Giving with Matthew Bishop, New York bureau chief for The Economist.

    The two spoke about Iran, Iraq, global warming, the Middle East, Africa, and much more. Charming to a tee, said blogger The Brooklyn Socialite.

    The Jewish Week covered Blairs frank comments on Israel and Palestine. The Arab world today actually wants the issue [the Israeli-Palestinian conflict] resolved, he said. That gives us an opportunity.

    According to the Times of London, Blair thought that it was impossible to predict the outcome of protests in Iran over the landslide presidential election victory claimed by the incumbent, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Since then, the government of Iran has made their intentions more clear, with the LA Times reporting that that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will be sworn in for a second term by mid-August.

    Blair’s most interesting remarks might have been on Globalization and Americas place in it. Vikie Karp at True/Slant wrote:

    In his introductory remarks about the future of globalization and achieving justice and equality for all on an international scale, Blair said We are a global community. And its chief attribute is that no one nation, not even this great nation of America, can do it on its own. In any case, power is shifting East and it is shifting quickly. Countries like India and China will take their rightful place. And its galvanizing people, too. Look at Iran today. So thats my theory, and if Im right, the countries of the global community must work in alliance with each other, and with equality, and it will work only if there is a feeling of obligation beyond their borders and a real belief that they can share values. If its simply a battle of interests, we will fail and the failure will be ugly.

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    Iran/Israel – is Middle East peace or WW3 on the way?

    June 27, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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  • BREAKING NEWS 1 : What’s this? White House drafts Executive Order to ALLOW INDEFINITE DETENTION?  Well, blow me down with a U-TURN!  That didn’t take long, did it?

    BREAKING NEWS 2 : Israel to register 13,900 hectares of land adjacent to its largest West Bank settlement. A snub/challenge to Obama, Blair and the rest of the west?

    BREAKING NEWS 3 : Iran arrests UK Embassy Staff for “having a role in post-election riots.” Laughable nonsense!  But who’s laughing?

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    BLAIR: “A DELICATE MOMENT”

    At the G8 meeting in Italy Tony Blair said that we are at a “delicate moment” in the Middle East.  But he considers that a peace settlement is “within reach” in the Israel/Palestinian situation.

    Former British Premier Tony Blair, the Middle East envoy to the Quartet of Middle East peacemakers, answers questions during a press conference in a G8 foreign ministers' meeting in Trieste, Italy, Friday, June 26, 2009. Foreign ministers from the Group of Eight industrialized nations have demanded Israel stop all settlement construction and immediately open the borders of blockaded Gaza. The G8 ministers also called on both the Israelis and Palestinians to resume direct peace negotiations. (AP Photo/Franco Debernardi)

    Former British Premier Tony Blair, the Middle East envoy to the Quartet of Middle East peacemakers, answers questions during a press conference in a G8 foreign ministers' meeting in Trieste, Italy, Friday, June 26, 2009. Foreign ministers from the Group of Eight industrialized nations have demanded Israel stop all settlement construction and immediately open the borders of blockaded Gaza. The G8 ministers also called on both the Israelis and Palestinians to resume direct peace negotiations. (AP Photo/Franco Debernardi)

    As Obama’s America pushes for Israel to give up its settlement expansion including natural expansion, at the same time criticising Iran over outrageous violence towards its citizens, fears are rising.

    Who will blink first – Israel or Iran? A confontation emanating from the weakened political condition of the present Iranian regime and Israel’s increasing feelings of isolation may be the precursor to military action.

    Backed by the G8 meeting today and the Quartet (UN, EU, USA & Russia) it is timely to ask:  are we in danger of pushing Israel into a corner?  Will Israel feel friendless in the region and fall back on an attack first strategy?

    Or/and will Iran try to provoke Israel to the same end, or even make its own attack on some pretext?

    These are dangerous times, especially as many in Israel are unhappy about the commercial arrangements being made between some western countries and Iran, notably Germany, even as the west hopes for eventual Iranian regime change.

    QUARTET ECHOES CALL FOR SETTLEMENT FREEZE

    Meeting on the sidelines of the G8 foreign ministers’ summit, the Quartet also called for a total freeze on all settlements.

    The Quartet’s Middle East envoy, Tony Blair, said a new political impulse was required to arrive at a ‘two peoples, two nations’ solution for Israel and the Palestinian territories.

    Blair said ”a strong political effort” was necessary, stressing that a new Palestinian state must be ”one, not two”, in that it must include both the West Bank and Gaza. The effort must be ‘’supported by actions on the ground” with an immediate strategy for the reconstruction of Gaza, he added. The United States’ envoy to the Middle East, George Mitchell, said after the meeting:

    ”The US and Israel are close allies and even if there are some differences in opinion on the Middle East discussions among friends are under way and I’m sure that we will make progress that will bring us to full and productive negotiations in the near future”.

    From left, Former British Premier Tony Blair, the Middle East envoy to the Quartet of Middle East peacemakers; European Union External Relations Commissioner Benita Ferrero-Waldner; Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov; U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon; EU's foreign policy chief Javier Solana; U.S. Mideast envoy George Mitchell and Czech Foreign Minister Jan Kohout , at a press conference in a G8 foreign ministers' meeting in Trieste, Italy, Friday, June 26, 2009. Foreign ministers from the Group of Eight industrialized nations have demanded Israel stop all settlement construction and immediately open the borders of blockaded Gaza. The G8 ministers also called on both the Israelis and Palestinians to resume direct peace negotiations. (AP Photo/Franco Debernardi)

    From left, Former British Premier Tony Blair, the Middle East envoy to the Quartet of Middle East peacemakers; European Union External Relations Commissioner Benita Ferrero-Waldner; Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov; U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon; EU's foreign policy chief Javier Solana; U.S. Mideast envoy George Mitchell and Czech Foreign Minister Jan Kohout , at a press conference in a G8 foreign ministers' meeting in Trieste, Italy, Friday, June 26, 2009. Foreign ministers from the Group of Eight industrialized nations have demanded Israel stop all settlement construction and immediately open the borders of blockaded Gaza. The G8 ministers also called on both the Israelis and Palestinians to resume direct peace negotiations. (AP Photo/Franco Debernardi)

     Responding to the appeals from the G8 ministers and the Quartet from Jerusalem, Israeli Foreign Minister Igal Palmor said the future of the settlements had to be decided in a definitive peace treaty between the two peoples. 

    ”Those interested in a solution to the issue of settlements must therefore encourage the Palestinians to make a speedy return to the negotiating table,” Palmor said.

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    Telegraph spins Jack Straw’s words on Labour split (now & 1981)

    June 26, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    THE SPINNING, LYING PRESS

    Why does a once respected paper like The Telegraph have to LIE?

    I realise that this former ”broadsheet” (still Tory, of course) has gone downhill. Perhaps this is in order to keep alongside the political judgement of the public AND perhaps to make a commercial killing (recent expenses scandal.)

    But I hadn’t realised it told downright LIES. Until now.

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    Mr Straw insisted that the depths of the party's troubles in 1981 were worse than those it was going through now Photo: GETTY

    Labour’s troubles worse than in 1981 split, warns Jack Straw

    Labour’s troubles are worse than any time since the split which led to the formation of the Social Democratic Party, Jack Straw, the Justice Secretary, has admitted.

    By Rosa Prince, Political Correspondent
    Published: 6:09PM BST 26 Jun 2009

    The Cabinet’s longest serving MP revealed that he had been forced to remind his junior colleagues of the bad times the party had gone through in 1981, when Labour’s survival appeared at risk, to prove that they could recover.

    Earlier this month, Labour polled just 16 per cent in the European election, its lowest electoral position since 1910.

    But in an interview with the House magazine, Mr Straw insisted that the depths of the party’s troubles in 1981 were worse than those it was going through now.

    NOTE – Straw says their troubles were “WORSE in 1981” than now.

    So why the spun … lying headline, Ms Prince?

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    Trial halted: ‘Incitement to murder’ jury discharged in ‘kill Blair & Brown’ case

    June 26, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm

     

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    26th June, 2009

    JURY DISCHARGED IN INTERNET “MURDER BLAIR & BROWN” CASE, FOR ‘LEGAL REASONS’

    The trial has been halted of a Briton accused of encouraging fellow Muslims to murder Tony Blair and Gordon Brown

     

    The reasons for the halt to this trial have not been given. There will be a re-trial, but it may not come until AFTER Mr Blair’s “trial.” (click here for links on this.) 

    Pity. This judicial trial in the cute old fashioned way-no summary or mob justice-as some seem to think Blair deserves-may have been a timely reminder to some. The case opened on June 4th, as I reported here.  Hasn’t taken long to come up against “legal” issues, has it?

    SIX men were ORIGINALLY arrested and THREE charged with this (see my Aug 2008 entry.)  What happened to THAT case? Discharged? Abandoned? Legal issues?  The news went quiet on this. VERY quiet.  And then it was sifted down to ONE – the present suspect, before charges were again laid.

    And now even his trial has been put on ice.

    SUSPICIOUS? You have every right to be. But I don’t expect most people are all that bothered, to be blunt. Our liberal litterati and half-informed public seem more concerned about the human rights of would-be terrorists.

    What a country!


    Do a Google search for “Abbas Iqbal  and Ilya Iqbal”, who were Ishaq Kanmi’s original co-charged, and see if you can find out what happened to this case. I only got these below, on the original charges. WHY the hush-up on this? Will we hush on what happens in Blair’s ‘TRIAL’? You better your bottom dollar we won’t, even though it has NO JUDICIAL powers.

    Web results 1-10 of about 1,390 for Abbas Iqbal and Ilya Iqbal.

    29 Aug 2008 Abbas Iqbal also was charged with distributing terrorist Ilya Iqbal was
    arrested in Accrington, about 35 miles north of the airport.

    www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,413341,00.html – 55k – Similar pages

    Abbas Iqbal, 23, has been charged with distributing terrorist publications,
    police said, adding that his 21-year-old brother, Ilya, is accused of possessing

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    The police arrested two of the men, Ishaq Kanmi and Abbas Iqbal, on Aug. The
    men and Iqbal’s brother Ilya Iqbal – arrested in Accrington 35 miles,

    www.nytimes.com/2008/09/01/world/europe/01iht-01britain.15808852.html – 41k – Similar pages

    28 Aug 2008 Abbas Iqbal, 23, has been charged with distributing terrorist publications and
    his brother Ilya Iqbal, 21, faces a charge of possessing an

    www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/aug/28/uksecurity.gordonbrown – 82k – Similar pages

    Article follows:

     

    Blair murder incitement case halted (source here)

    The jury in the trial of a Briton alleged to have encouraged fellow Muslims to murder Gordon Brown and Tony Blair has been discharged.

    The case involving Ishaq Kanmi, 23, of Blackburn, Lancashire, was stopped for legal reasons on day 14 of the trial at Preston Crown Court.

    Kanmi, of Cromwell Street, denies charges including soliciting to murder Mr Brown and Mr Blair, and professing to belong to a terrorist organisation, namely al Qaida.

    Mr Justice McCombe thanked the jurors for their conduct throughout the trial and he told them: “I have decided that the present trial can no longer continue.”tblair_gbrown_smiles_tie

    The judge ordered that a preliminary hearing be held within the next month to determine a date for a retrial.

    Kanmi, of Cromwell Street, denies two counts of soliciting to murder Mr Brown and Mr Blair.

    He also pleaded not guilty to professing to belong to a terrorist organisation, namely al Qaida, inviting support to the same organisation, disseminating terrorist publications and collecting or making a record of information likely to be useful to a terrorist.

    Also reported by the BBC here

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    Cyber Security Strategy “Needs Youngsters”! Gimme a break!

    June 25, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm

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    25th June, 2009

    WAKEY WAAAAAAKEY!

    These internet issues have been known for years – decades – but today the government has finally woken up to them, or so it says.

    And they say they need “youngsters” – aka  “former naughty boys”. “Former illegal hackers”?  So now we reward such as these? They’ll be hacking into your systems while you … we pay them.

    It needs the grown-up boys (and girls) to employ grown-up companies to sort this out. There are people out there with internet knowledge gained over the last 25 years and more. We do NOT need to employ trainee, would-be, already-known-but-probably-not-caught cyber criminals. And we need the grown-up boys and girls, aka the government, to charge and convict those caught.

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    Written Ministerial Statement from Number 10 website. Excerpt:

    A Written Ministerial Statement by the Prime Minister on the first annual update to the National Security Strategy.

    “I am today laying before the House the first annual update to the National Security Strategy of the United Kingdom Security for the Next Generation (cm 7590), and the Government’s first Cyber Security Strategy, Safety, Security and Resilience in Cyber Space (cm 7642).

    The purpose of the National Security Strategy, published for the first time in March last year, is to bring together in a single strategic framework the Government’s analysis of, and response to, the full range of national security risks – recognising that today more than ever these risks, and the underlying drivers, are increasingly interconnected and require a more co-ordinated approach.

    The 2009 update fulfils the Government’s commitment to report on activity and progress over the past year, from counter-terrorism, to military and civilian support to Afghanistan, to peacekeeping and conflict resolution in a range of countries, and to combating H1N1 influenza.”

    More at Number 10 website

    So the threats from cyber crime don’t even merit their own dedicated report? That tells me a lot. Meanwhile, what, Mr Brown, are you and the international community going to do about “personal threats” to which I have dedicated tha last four posts?

    None of this will make ANY difference – recruiting “naughty boys” or whatever - until you start to make PROPER use of the present legislation on ‘incitement to violence’, such as introduced by your predecessor. THIS is terrorism, whether Islamic or anything else. Don’t be afraid to use those powers.

    Locate them, CHARGE them and lock them up!

    Until you do, all of this will be seen for what it is  – mere “window dressing”.

    BBC reports on Government’s new “Cyber Security Strategy”

    Britons face a growing online threat from criminals, terrorists and hostile states, according to the UK’s first cyber security strategy.

    Businesses, government and ordinary people are all at risk, it says. The strategy has been published alongside an updated, wider National Security Strategy.

    Its publication is a sign of the growing recognition within government of the need to bolster defences against a growing threat.

    In line with a wider focus within the National Security Strategy on not just protecting the state but also citizens, the cyber-strategy encompasses protecting individuals from forms of fraud, identity theft and e-crime committed using technology as well as defending government secrets and businesses.

    It continues, sagely:

    ‘Attack capability’

    Launching the strategy, security minister Lord West said: “We know that various state actors are very interested in cyber warfare. The terrorist aspect of this is the least (concern), but it is developing.”

    He warned that future targets could include key businesses, the national power grid, financial markets and Whitehall departments.

    He said: “We know terrorists use the internet for radicalisation and things like that at the moment, but there is a fear they will move down that path (of cyber attacks).

    “As their ability to use the web and the net grows, there will be more opportunity for these attacks.”

    He confirmed that the UK government has already faced cyber attacks from foreign states such as Russia and China.

    But he denied that hackers had successfully broken into government systems and stolen secret information.

    He also said he could not deny that the government had its own online attack capability, but he refused to say whether it had ever been used.

    “It would be silly to say that we don’t have any capability to do offensive work from Cheltenham, and I don’t think I should say any more than that.”

    ‘Naughty boys’

    Among those the government has turned to for help on cyber crime are former illegal hackers, Lord West added.

    He said the government listening post GCHQ at Cheltenham had not employed any “ultra, ultra criminals” but needed the expertise of former “naughty boys” he said.

    “You need youngsters who are deep into this stuff… If they have been slightly naughty boys, very often they really enjoy stopping other naughty boys,” he said.

    Officials said e-crime crime is estimated to costs the UK several billion pounds a year.

    Two new bodies will be established in the coming months as part of the strategy.

    A dedicated Office of Cyber Security in the Cabinet Office will co-ordinate policy across government and look at legal and ethical issues as well as relations with other countries.

    The second body will be a new Cyber Security Operations Centre (CSOC) based at GCHQ.

    This will bring people together from across government and from outside to get a better handle on cyber security issues and work out how to better protect the country, providing advice and information about the risks.

    “CSOC’s aim will be to identify in real time what type of cyber attacks are taking place, where they come from and what can be done to stop them”, according to a Whitehall security official.

    Experts say the “forensics” of detecting who is behind a cyber attack and attributing responsibility remains extremely difficult.

    Officials said it would require input from those who had their own expertise in hackers. “We need youngsters,” an official said.

    The range of potentially hostile cyber activity – from other states seeking to carry out espionage through criminal gangs to terrorists – is daunting.

    Critical information

    At one end of the spectrum, military operations – such as Russia’s conflict with Georgia last year – are now accompanied by attacks on computer systems.

    The UK’s critical national infrastructure is also more reliant on technology than it was even five years ago and terrorists who have used the internet for fundraising and propaganda are also believed to have the intent – if not yet the capability- to carry out their own cyber-attacks.

    Officials declined to give a figure of how many attacks on government computer networks take place each day.

    In a speech in 2007, the head of MI5, Jonathan Evans, explicitly mentioned Russia and China in the context of a warning that that “a number of countries continue to devote considerable time and energy trying to steal our sensitive technology on civilian and military projects, and trying to obtain political and economic intelligence at our expense. They do not only use traditional methods to collect intelligence but increasingly deploy sophisticated technical attacks, using the internet to penetrate computer networks.”

    Officials said they were not aware of any “key pieces of information” that had gone missing yet but said that British companies had lost critical information.

    The new Cyber Security Operations Centre will work closely with the designated parts of the critical national infrastructure and wider industry and officials say that business are keen for the government to take a lead but also share as much information as possible.

    US President Barack Obama has been carrying out a similar re-organisation for defending US computer networks and British officials said the two countries were co-ordinating closely not least because of the intimate relationship between GCHQ and its US equivalent.

    British officials believe that their government systems may also have fewer vulnerabilities than their US counterparts partly because they moved online later and have fewer connections between the internal government system and the rest of cyberspace to monitor.

    Officials in the US and UK are also thought to be working on forms of offensive cyber-warfare capability but officials are unwilling to go into any details of what this might involve.

    Fills you with confidence, doesn’t it?

    Also reported at The Telegraph under the heading -

    Al-Qaeda, China and Russia ‘pose cyber war threat to Britain’, warns Lord West

    Er … yes.  So what’s new?

    Oh, yes this, more or less. And today in Britain we hear of a prisoner who updated his Facebook page from his prison cell? How, with no computer? By mobile phone, of course.

    Why didn’t the authorities recognise this possibility before? You don’t have to be thirteen and a half to know how to access the internet by mobile.

    Time to take those mobile phones away from ALL prisoners, or at least those convicted of terror offences or  suspected of being susceptible while in prison.

    Yes, in the new world of ‘being sensible’, recently epitomised by France’s President Sarkozy on the burka, let’s be un-PC and proud of it.

    I am. It was easy.

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    Day 4: The ‘TRIAL’ of Tony Blair – House of Commons Debate on Iraq Inquiry

    June 25, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    Ready for a good hanging? The press and the MOB are. Picture with thanks to a commenter at the Tory Iain Dale's blog.

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  • HEADLINES FROM THE PARLIAMENTARY DEBATE:

    A Miliband u-turn? Pressed by senior Tory Sir Malcom Rifkind, the Foreign Secretary conceded that the Inquiry would have the power to apportion “blame”, though he said it is “not a civil or criminal inquiry”. This “blame” climb-down contrasts with Brown’s earlier ruling of ”no attributable blame”.  It may, whether wise or not, have swung some rebellion inclined Labour MPs behind the government. ALSO, Michael Mates’ confidential  bombshell (see here)

    Comment at end

    24th June, 2009

    IRAQ INQUIRY DEBACLE – DEBATE, IN PARLIAMENT TODAY

    They’ve had some fun and games in the Commons today re-asserting the sovereignty of parliament following the expenses debacle and other issues of trust. Never mind that they were supposed to be debating a “contentious motion” that was in actual fact no more contentious than the press’s view of the former PM’s guilt. 

    For once I agree with The Independent – it was an argument already won

    So today I ease off on the press, more or less. This impassioned debate saw both sides, but particularly those against the Iraq war decision airing their multiple grievances.

    SPREADING THE CONCLUSIONS BEFORE THE FACTS

    I will however use this opportunity to take a swing at some irresponsible MPs who are already describing this as a trial, with judicial powers.  Some in Parliament today have even described Tony Blair’s decisions as war crimes. I would like some clarification as to their right to say this. They are accusing a civilian, Mr Blair, of crimes, when he has not been convicted nor even tried for these “crimes”. Are they permitted to accuse ANYcivilian of (such) crimes prior to conviction, or only a select few?  Even if this IS permitted, and legal parliamentarians will know the position, it spreads the conclusions before the facts, so adding to the already widespread conviction that the “guilty” criminal Blair deserves all he gets, by whomsoever, whensoever.

    Dangerous. If you need persuading that I am right to highlight this from MANY as irresponsible and dangerous, read the reports in tomorrow’s papers and guess at THEIR bias and opinions. Their sprog blogs will duplicate that opinion. In turn, their commenters will pile on their abuse and threats.  THAT I can guarantee you.

    You can read the full Hansard transcript here.


    SO WHAT WAS THE DEBATE ABOUT?

    Primarily, nominally, to try to insist on an “open ” inquiry. This was overtaken by events as both sides had now agreed to this. Also to give Parliament the power to decide the ‘Terms of Reference’ of the Inquiry. Odd how they want an “independent inquiry”, but not independent enough to decide its own terms of reference.

    The debate was about other things in actual fact, apart from opining, dressed as fact.

    A CLEAN SLATE

    MPs were trying to wipe the slate clean as far as the balance of power between the MPs and the Executive are concerned. They think that will help us trust them more. As if we’d prefer to trust ALL of them, rather than just ONE of them!

    And some of them, particularly Labour MPs, high up on their glorious high-horses were trying to wipe the slate clean as regards having once had a leader who knew how to lead (but led ‘wrongly’ in one issue at least), compared with one who doesn’t know, but gets there eventually with a little help from his friends.

    The debate was sparsely attended but was full and presented both sides of the arguments. Or I should say ALL the sides that the anti-war people could muster up versus the arguments of the war decision supporters.  The anti-Blair/anti-Iraq war MPs were present in far greater numbers than the others.

    In the end, the government defeated the Tory motion and won by 39 votes, with 19 Labour MPs voting with the Conservatives.

    Don’t ask ME how 19 Labour MPs could vote against the government. Especially since there was less than a cigarette paper between them after Brown’s u-turn on Open not Closed.  Ahhh, but there we have it, rebels will be heard. And we heard them.

    I’d like to congratulate all those who spoke in support of Blair’s decision over Iraq, on both sides of the House. You were out-numbered, but quality will out. In particular David Winnick & Mike Gapes made memorabe contributions, the former speaking several times.

    Mike Gapes, chairman of the Foreign Affairs Select committee made some BRILLIANT points on background. Referring to the context BEFORE 2001, he thought we needed to study the whole run-up and not just Blair & Bush’s private conversations pre the invasion. He also reminded us that in 1998/9 the Liberal Democrats AGREED with the government to attack Iraq without a 2nd UN SC resolution. Personally I also recall Charles Kennedy, the then Lib Dem leader saying in 2003 that HE was against the Iraq war but that he couldn’t speak for ALL his colleagues. Wonder what brought them all together? Political expediency? Electioneering?

    And so it went on, in a way which non-Brits would think was completely MAD. They spent six hours debating a Tory motion that they had already agreed on – that “as much of the Iraq Inquiry as possible should be heard in public.” Much of it was taken up with criticising the government’s continual caving-in and its evident lack of thinking through the original set-up of the Inquiry. Good points. And much of it was emphasising the likely outcome if under oath witnesses were found to have lied. Yes, folks, the hanging jury were out in force, ready to reluctantly do their duty by us, the good people.

    And if you believe that …

    So was it all worthless chatting time? Maybe. To be fair, the government was slow in coming to any sort of consensus on this inquiry and I think they WERE remiss and careless in that. And the parliamentary timetable was already set last week prior to the u-turn. Still, who could resist the opportunity to tear the former PM to bits again?

    Tories attack Iraq Inquiry ‘Mess’


    MICHAEL MATES GIVING AWAY CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION

    Michael Mates’ bombshell on “eye -watering” confidential papers related to legal advice during the Butler Inquiry into Saddam’s WMDs. (Surely he should NOT even be hinting at this? Isn’t he still committed to secrecy? Doesn’t this breed more suspicion aout MPs trustworthiness?)

    Without implying TOO much it should be remembered that in 2004 Mates upset Michael Howard the then Tory leader when he decided to stay on the Butler Inquiry even as the Tory party withdrew its co-operation.  Perhaps Mates is making sure the present Tory leader knows that his rebellion against Howard was a one-off and a useful decision in the end.

    But fancy me ascribing ulterior motives to MPs?  How could I? Why would I?


    ONE OR TWO OTHERS’ CONTRIBUTIONS

    A Lib Dem MP on “evidence under oath” said that witnesses whould be subject to perjury (referring to the Evidence Act 1861).

    George Galloway echoed this and said that if the use of the oath led to conclusions of perjury, we should then charge and try those guilty. (WHO could he possibly mean?) And if a Nuremberg type trial was the outcome, well, so be it, said the Gorgeous One. Next thing he’ll be calling for the return of the death penalty. Give them enough rope … 


    But the subtleties if the opposition had won the motion should not be lost to non-Brits.

    If the Tory motion HAD won, the opposition including the anti-Iraq war Liberal Democrats would have felt they had achieved the moral case to pursue further humble little aims. Like oaths for all, ensuring  jeopardy of … , all witnesses being compelled to attend when called, no time limits on witnesses just because they have to shoot off to the Middle East for instance, blame attachable thus ensuring the hoped for trial of somebody or other, somewhere or other, loads of Lib Dems on the Panel. No limit to the fun and games they would have visited on us if they had won. Looking backward seems to be the forte of our MPs.

    The boil has not been lanced just because such as Galloway, Short and co have had their day in court … parliament. It may even have been re-infected. But the colour of their aguments have all been aired.

    TYPICALLY NEGATIVE REPORTS ON DEBATE WITH MAINLY QUOTES FROM THOSE ’ANTI’ THE WAR


    IN SUPPORT OF BLAIR

    1. The excellent David Aaronovitch said on the Iraq Inquiry:

    “… it will change no one’s minds.

    The bit that won’t happen is the supposed “truth and reconciliation” element in which a cynical public is satisfied that – at last – there has been an accounting. This is impossible. Some of the most exalted and popular opponents of the war are implacable in their interior knowledge of the wrongness of the conflict and of the perfidy that led up to it. No facts or interpretations that they could possibly hear would ever change their minds. Instead, they await the unlikely moment when their beliefs are demonstrated, by some hidden memorandum or mandarin testimony, to be utterly and irrefutably correct. Then, perhaps, they will get the Trial of Tony Blair for War Crimes that they have been wanting for so long – the final scratch to their intolerable itch.”

    I commented with this, which has not (yet) been published. Even Blair suppporters sometimes have their eyes closed to this danger.

    Spot on, David. Minds are already made up. I have another concern over the way this is already reported in the press. It begets “sprog blogs” quoting as fact the thoughts of such as Clegg. Many threats result against Blair, regardless of the Inquiry. It only needs 1 success. Google “Keep Tony Blair”

    2. John Rentoul is another Blair supporter always worth a read. Even if there are but few of us online regularly right now, we Blair supporters need to stick together

    3. Blair Foundation says “Tony Blair was NOT on his own over Iraq decision”: ‘People must never forget Tony Blair’s role in bringing peace to Northern Ireland. One of the most important political events I have witnessed was the dramatic run up to the peace talks that ended with an historic agreement.   [...]  Also, people must never forget that Tony Blair was not on his own in deciding to go to war in Iraq.’   

    4. This is Staffordshire – Sensible commentary: “Not only Blair who made the decision”


    Brown announces the panel members for The Iraq Inquiry:

    Mr Speaker, I can announce today that the Committee of Inquiry will be chaired by Sir John Chilcot and include:
    Baroness Usha Prashar
    Sir Roderick Lyne
    Sir Lawrence Freedman; and
    Sir Martin Gilbert

    All are – or will become – privy counsellors

    Mr Speaker, the committee will start work as soon as possible after the end of July, and given the complexity of the issues it will address, I am advised it will take one year.

    As I have made clear, the primary objective of the committee will be to identify lessons learned. The committee will not set out to apportion blame or consider issues of civil or criminal liability.


    1. Vanity Fair reports on an interview last night with Tony Blair (with video): Excerpt:

    ‘Blair, who has been accused of misleading Parliament during the run-up to the Iraq war, answered that the notion that politicians have secret, conspiratorial agendas is poisoning modern political discourse.’

    Watch video of interview here. Graydon Carter’s introduction shows how SOME appreciate our former PM.  Mr Blair  – you know where to go if/when the littlies in our country really start gunning for you.

    To my readers: watch the opening remarks of this video and then say to yourself, proudly – “Hey, that’s our very own war criminal he’s talking about”. Repeat it a thousand times. Then if you’re anything like Galloway and his inconsequential ilk, you might even start to believe it.

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    CBS Evening News - Tony Blair interviewed by Katie Couric, 24th June, 2009

    2. Also in America – CBS interview with Blair – change is “fundamental” in Iran

    Blair was asked about Britain’s upcoming inquiry about the run up to the Iraq war, and whether these hearings should be made public. Blair said, “I’m questioned about Iraq in public the whole time. I have been for years. But the important thing about the inquiry is it’s actually about the lessons learned.”

    In response to a question about the financial scandal in his own country, Blair said, “I’ve learned that anything I say is … taken down and used in evidence against me in terms of interference in UK politics.”


    ETCETERA

    AFP report: Foreign Secretary David Miliband said the investigation, announced last week to fulfil a pledge for a probe once British troops have mostly left Iraq, would be independent and able to criticise whoever it wants.  Former premier Tony Blair will cooperate “fully” with a new British probe into the Iraq war, officials said Wednesday, as the government conceded the inquiry will have the power to apportion blame.  ”It can praise or blame whoever it likes. It is free to write its own report at every stage,” Miliband said, in what was widely seen as a concession on the remit of the probe originally intended only to learn lessons from the war. 

    The Manning Memo. This is supposed to be ONE of the incriminating factors that will pin Blair to the wall. We’ll see. As will they, and they, and they. Not that they’ll ALL accept anything that goes against their own conclusions.

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    Day 3: The ‘TRIAL’ of Tony Blair – “The Independent can report that…”

    June 24, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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  • Watch LIVE Parliamentary debate on the Iraq War Inquiry – present recurring theme – OATHS & BLAME:

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    Ready for a good hanging? The press & the MOB are. This picture is not MY idea of a fun day out. It comes via a commenter at the Tory Iain Dale's blog.

    Miliband says the Inquiry CAN apportion BLAME. Mike Gapes, Chairman Foreign Affairs Select Committee, making some excellent points on the 1998/9 support of the Lib Dems for attacking Iraq WITHOUT a UN SC resolution. Suddenly their tune changed AFTER 9/11. Gapes wants years prior to 2001 too to be looked at.  Excellent points. Education, education, education might assist. I doubt it, though. And Gordon Prentice, Labour, says “we are not out to get Tony Blair’s head on a spike.” NO?  Galloway (spit!) says “this is a CRIME, and if people are found guilty there will have to be a TRIAL – nothing less will do.”

    UNDER OATH – BLAIR & BROWN”? WHO IS THIS ANDREW MACKINLAY MP ANYWAY? (more here)

     Comment at end

    24th June, 2009

    BUT FIRST, A TOUCH OF INDIE DISSEMBLING

    There was an Irish comedian who used to say, “it’s the way I tell ‘em”.

    And the anti-Iraq war Independent has its own way of “telling”. It  smacks authoritatively of insider knowledge and exclusivity, though it possesses neither.

    But have they ever lied to you? Perish the thought! There’s not a politician amongst them. 

    The Independent: “Chilcot backs public hearing on Iraq”

    Except he hasn’t.

    Sir John Chilcot actually said this as reported in The Independent: My bolding:

    ‘The chairman of the Iraq war inquiry has told Gordon Brown it is “essential” that as much of the hearing as possible should be in public.

    Not quite “backing a public hearing”, is it?

    So why is this dissembling? The Independent are up to their old tricks of half-stating something as truth in order to discredit others when the REAL truth comes out, and the half-truth still hangs about at the back of people’s minds, posing as THE REAL TRUTH. The REAL truth being in REALITY what the others had originally said anyway.

    That is exactly how they have pursued Blair for several years over the Iraq war decision. And that traducement is STILL today their raison d’etre.

    It’s worth remembering that The Independent was actually named and shamed – no other paper was mentioned by name  – in Blair’s ‘feral beasts’ speech, May 2007. He expected nothing better than dissembling from the hypocritical, Tory biased Daily Mail, but The Indie?

    THE SONG AND DANCE DOUBLE ACT ON THE ANTI-IRAQ WAR LEFT

    And just to prove that they are not the only dissemblers, they perform their song and dance acts with The Guardian. These dancing partners are under the instruction of Nick Clegg, the Lib Dem leader. So that’s them finished.  Clegg provides the choreography and they do a soft shoe shuffle round the floor, trying not to step on each other’s toes. They’ve been learning this merry dance for years now. Still haven’t mastered it. The choreographer is getting desperate. He has no other dance up his sleeve with which to WOW the audience.

    The Guardian seems to think it has something BIG by announcing that Brown and Blair would likely be appearing in Open sessions of the Inquiry. Well, blow me down with a hippy-happy dirndle skirt.  Surely not? How unexpected.

    But their confidential/secret/security evidence will NOT be heard in an Open session, you can be sure of that.  And rightly so.

    “By definition, that part of the process cannot be conducted in public sessions,” he [Chilcot] noted. “The results of that examination and analysis will, however, be crucial in guiding the selection of witnesses and the detailed questions that will then need to be answered.

    “I expect our report will publish all the relevant evidence except where national security considerations prevent that.”

    The Guardian and the Indie aren’t too keen on reminding us of this kind of important stuff. They don’t need to; we can work it out for ourselves. Pity they can’t.

    Come on guys. Blair-baiters can do better than this. I’m committed to reporting on your scoops, insider leaks, “exclusives” – not your re-cycled anti-war rhetoric and SPIN from the LDs.

    I can find that out for myself. If only I could be bothered. 

    This site points to this viral press issue here too. The Times, normally a more honourable publication as regards Iraq reporting, is the focus here.


    FORSOOTH, BY GAD! WHAT’S ANDREW MACKINLAY AFTER? BLOOD?

    Lest you get the weird idea that this Trial is an Inquiry – look at the effort some artistic halfwit individual has put into the cartoon below.

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    Labour MP Andrew MacKinlay on the BBC news tonight insisted that Blair should give his evidence “under oath”.  Don’t think ANYONE ELSE WAS ASKED TO DO THE SAME, oddly enough.  The Chairman of the Inquiry responded that the Inquiry does not have judicial status and so “oaths do not apply”. But Sir John says he will ask the witnesses to promise to tell the truth. Fat lot of good that’ll do. Fat lot of good “under oath” would do either, as the Blair baiters and haters dont believe a word he says anyway.

    MacKinlay says he wants to be clear that witnesses (he means Blair) have sworn to tell the TRUTH (aka MacKinlay’s TRUTH.) Then Mac goes on - if they ( he means Blair) are found NOT to have told the truth, they can be tried in a Court of Law.

    “I will have my (wicked) way with you, Blair”, Mac The Knife dreams. “You cannot evade the thrust of my trusty Sword of Truth.” (Oh, hang on … that was a Tory criminal.)

    Let’s be blunt about it. Those who do not believe Blair over Iraq WILL NEVER BELIEVE BLAIR, no matter if he swears on the koran. The press have seen to that. And Tony Blair will not perjure himself, or allow himself to be put in a position where perjury is even an option.

    Mr MacKinlay, you’re crossing swords with Blair here, not Jonathan Aitken.

    All silly positioning from a Labour MP with history: MacKinlay, 2000 – “countering President Blair”

    Also see this House of Commons debate with Jack Straw, the Justice Secretary in February this year. MacKinlay’s voting record speaks for itself.

    On the other hand, it’s VERY confusing at times - According to The Public Whip record here – MacKinlay voted VERY Strongly for the Iraq invasion. Presumably he saw the light afterwards.

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    Some Indie excerpts:

    Sir John Chilcot also said evidence may be given under an “undertaking” of truthfulness and he will discuss the format of the inquiry with opposition party leaders and MPs. A number of senior public figures have said the inquiry should have the right to issue subpoenas for witnesses and that they should give their testimony under oath.’

    He also said this:

    However, Sir John said that the inquiry may take longer than expected. A “significant part”, especially in the early stages, would be taken up with analysis of the vast quantities of documentary evidence related to the build-up, conduct and aftermath of the invasion stretching over seven years.

    “By definition, that part of the process cannot be conducted in public sessions,” he noted. “The results of that examination and analysis will, however, be crucial in guiding the selection of witnesses and the detailed questions that will then need to be answered.

    “I expect our report will publish all the relevant evidence except where national security considerations prevent that.”

    [...]

    The inquiry was due to start next month. However, the indication by Sir John that the initial period will be taken up with examining documentation means that the public stage of the hearing is likely to begin in the run-up to the election campaign.

    But Sir John appeared to play down the prospect of an interim report, following calls for the inquiry to publish first its findings on the run-up to the war. “While I do not rule out the possibility, it seems to me clear that the causes and effects of particular phases of these events cannot simply be divided up so as to separate clearly one period from another,” Sir John said.


    BBC on  Brown – u-turn denied on public/private Inquiry. The Beeb’s inbox is filling up with Press Releases from the LD leader too

    Gordon Brown has denied Conservative claims his stance on whether to hold an inquiry into the Iraq war in public has undergone a “U-turn in slow motion”.

    The PM had said it would be held in private for security reasons but later said some sessions could be in public.

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    He said he wanted the inquiry to have “all the evidence that is necessary” including confidential material.

    Meanwhile the Lib Dems say they have been told former PM Tony Blair will be asked to give most evidence in public.

    Mr Brown faced widespread criticism of his original announcement to MPs that the inquiry would be held in private from some military families, Lord Butler, former PM Sir John Major and others.

    ‘Complete candour’

    Days later Mr Brown wrote to the inquiry’s chairman, Sir John Chilcot, saying it was up to him to decide if some sessions should be held in public.

    On Monday Sir John replied saying he felt it was “essential to hold as much of the proceedings of the inquiry as possible in public, consistent with the need to protect national security and to ensure and enable complete candour in the oral and written evidence from witnesses”.

    Shadow foreign secretary William Hague called it “a climbdown of massive proportions” by Mr Brown who he said had been “executing a U-turn in slow motion ever since announcing the inquiry”.

    Asked if the Tories were right that he had undergone a U-turn, Mr Brown told BBC Radio 4’s World at One: “No, I don’t think so.”

    He said the scope of the inquiry – covering eight years of a “very controversial issue for Britain” – meant it would always be difficult.

    But he said he had always said there would be a “process of consultation” with other party leaders and senior MPs.

    “I’m trying to find a way of getting an inquiry that can satisfy people that we’re doing everything in our power to get to the truth while at the same time I think everybody understands … you’ve got to take into account national security considerations and that you’ve got serving military who will want to give evidence .. sometimes in private.”

    Military experts

    He said the Conservatives had been asking for a Franks-style inquiry – a reference to the committee that reviewed the Falklands War – which was partly held in private.

    He added: “I think the way we are doing it allows those people who have got something to say, sometimes that is confidential or effects our relationships with other countries, to be able to say it directly to Chilcot.

    “He then has the chance to look at all the papers that are security papers as well as confidential and private papers – but at the same time there is now scope for people to give evidence in public if that is what he chooses.”

    Meanwhile Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg has met Sir John and was told former PM Mr Blair would be asked to give some public evidence, apart from on sensitive issues of national security.

    Sir John also said witnesses would not be made to give evidence under oath as it was a non-judicial inquiry but an equivalent format would be found.

    And the party says he said he would make up for the gaps on the inquiry panel by asking military experts for help.

    Mr Clegg’s spokesman said Sir John had made “a sincere attempt to make up for the shortcomings of Gordon Brown’s initial announcement”.

    But he said Mr Clegg wanted guarantees that there would be proper cross examination of witnesses.

    Downing Street and Tony Blair’s spokesman have dismissed reports that the decision to hold the inquiry in private was prompted by pressure from the ex-prime minister.

    ENDS BBC report

    A useful P.S. to the BBC article, don’t you think? Positioning is everything.

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    Day 2: The ‘TRIAL’ of Tony Blair – Press/Internet Freedom

    June 23, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    BREAKING: SkyNews – Sir John Chilcot, the Chairman of the Iraq Inquiry says as much as possible should be held in public

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    23rd June, 2009

    LAYING DOWN THE IRAQ INQUIRY’S TERMS OF REFERENCE – FOR THE PRESS  & THEIR BLOG SPROGS

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    "Dieu et Mon Droit" as used by the monarch and the Royal Courts of Justice. Does this apply too to those under intense inquiry for political decisions, even when not nominally 'on trial'? If 'no', what are the ground rules of protection particularly pre-inquiry?

    The point of this series in ‘The Trial of Tony Blair’ days is two-fold. Remember that to many if not most this inquiry is ALL about Blair, his Iraq war decisions and their legality or otherwise. I contend we need to lay down ground-rules and FAST, before the aggression rising in the current press and blogging atmosphere gets out of hand.

    I see this inquiry as a flawed instrument, but nonetheless I accept that we are stuck with it to try to bring closure.  The families of soldiers who died, and who feel, rightly or wrongly, that their relatives died in vain, have understandable and personal concerns. There are NO such excuses/reasons for many other critics of a democratically elected government.

    Tony Blair is NOT on trial, yet many of his opponents are behaving as though he were. Except that they are NOT behaving as they would if he ACTUALLY were on trial.  All this I discussed at the previous post.

    Point one - to insist on and secure the same treatment and protection for Blair PRIOR to AND during the Inquiry he and we would expect and get if he or any of us were in the dock of a court.

    Point two - and to aid in point one – to press for by whatever means, legislation, terms of reference, rules of engagement for the press, or some other arrangement (self-censorship does NOT work) for an IMMEDIATE cessation in the press and on blogs, of the kind of opinion that is presently inciting so many, if only, thus far to wordy threats. That kind of freedom to threaten should NEVER be countenanced in this country in the name of “Free Speech”. I do not see why it was allowed to take hold in the first place.

    DANGEROUS – HANG IT ALL!

    I am not by instinct against free speech; in fact the complete opposite. But that assumes responsibility. Few of the mainstream press and bloggers feel ANY responsibility in their slanderous and inciteful attacks on Tony Blair.

    We are turning a dangerously blind eye to the growing band of hangers ‘n’ floggers within the anti-war brigade. I realise that some will say that my drawing attention to this could increase the threats. I reject that. If you have spent any time on the internet in recent years the abuse, ignorant intolerance and threatening behaviour to the former prime minister are quite eye-watering. This should have been stepped on years ago.

    Perhaps NOW is the most opportune moment we are ever likely to have.

    If this WAS a court case the press would not opine and back up their half-baked opinions by re-gurgitating the arguments. Their spew of others’ thoughts and conclusions will make no difference to the outcome of the Inquiry. The panel, whoever they turn out to be in the end, will understand that their minds must be open. I fully expect Blair and his government at that time to be exonerated by the Inquiry, so this is not a plea for mercy before the “verdict”.

    My concern is simpler than that, and more immediate. It is that some of the half-brains whose “thoughts” have even been expressed here a few days ago by an insane commenter will take the press’s views of  a “whitewash” if Blair comes out of it smelling of roses. They may feel that they therefore have a ‘duty’ to the rest of us, sanctioned by the press.

    In that case they will NOT pursue the panel members, but this man

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    This edited portrait of Blair was linked from a comment at the Tory Iain Dale's blog: http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2009/06/blair-pleaded-for-private-iraq-inquiry.html . Interesting link from a Conservative site traducing Blair.

    If the press want anything like this on their consciences (consciences? Hah!) let them continue to behave as they are doing.

    I am not suggesting that ALL of those who attack Blair’s decisions are as bloodthirsty as some of them think he is. Most want to see him standing in the dock of The Hague and then locked up for life, not dead; modest ambitions really.  But it is mainly from the rabid anti-war Left that we hear this kind of call for violent retribution. More astonishingly it also comes from the hypocritical mainstream Right, who in his position would have made the same decisions. You only need to read the comments at the dailies for confirmation of this. Few of these calls are edited out.

    The political Right did in fact, lest we forget, support Blair’s Iraq war stance right from the start, as did the country, over 60%.  Many honourable  Conservatives still support that decision, despite their party’s present oft-times disapproving and frankly opportune and populist words.

    MORE THAN ONE WAY TO SKIN A CAT

    When these people have run out of cud to re-chew and decide to give the “Ah, We ALL KNOW” stuff a rest they use a different tack.

    Rachel Cooke displays it to the nth degree in her scurrilous report of her interview with Tony Blair at The Mail. This is equally devastating as regards his chances of fair reporting of the Inquiry as it breeds more suspicions and assumptions about his integrity, character and motivation.

    It feeds into the “he’s a weak, sneaky, uncaring, warmongering, lying b*****d” mindset that prevails online and in much of the press. Something that would NOT be permitted with a suspected criminal about to go on trial.

    For example, here are a few choice phrases Cooke uses about Blair:

    “Utterly unrepentant… a stranger to self-doubt …  an unwittingly revealing interview … a symbol of status lost … not of power …  Tony Blair, yapping and restless and keen to be loved, just like a toy spaniel … it’s clear that he loathes me …  you can almost smell his contempt, even through the highly polished veneer of his charm; it’s like catching a whiff of stale body through very strong aftershave …  he is still resolutely uninterested in introspection, regret, nuance …  you are also dealing with a robot … he simply doesn’t have the emotional vocabulary. Blair is used to using charm in interviews, I suspect, and when one doesn’t quite submit to it, you can sense a slight irritation on his part. I really can’t tell you what he’s like, or much about what he believes. In this sense, it is more like talking to an actor than a politician. It’s like The Wizard Of Oz, isn’t it? I say. When Dorothy finally finds him, he’s not a wizard; he’s just a little man in a silly coat. There is a split second of startled – horrified? – silence, and then he laughs. Just a little bit too loudly.”

    This deep contempt for Blair is written into almost every paragraph this woman writes.

    Why? To what effect? Who is she speaking to? Who does she mean to impress? Who to motivate? Where are her manners?

    In case you didn’t realise it, The Mail has long practised censorhip. See how they treated a commenter here. Time to censor them? I think so.


    To illustrate how a lie can get half-way round the world before the truth can get its boots on, you need only read the sprog blog posts that have shot up from the original Guardian article saying that Blair has pushed/urged/pleaded with Brown to hold the Inquiry in private.  If the posts/article doesn’t state the “obvious”, the commenters do.

    See list below.


    From this Guardian article to Philippe Sand’s (also) Guardian article to the blogosphere no-one takes a balanced line. And their commenters are even more unbalanced. Do they see no cause and effect to this “analysis”?

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    Last night, Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat leader, whose party opposed the war from the outset, said: “If this is true about Blair demanding secrecy, it is outrageous that an inquiry into the biggest foreign policy disaster since Suez is being muzzled to suit the individual needs of the man who took us to war.”

    http://ardenforester.blogspot.com/2009/06/tony-blair-fears-being-exposed-in-iraq.html 

    ‘The clamour for a public enquiry has started. Gordon Brown, in his usual gulping way, failed to offer any sincerity in the House of Commons over the need for secrecy. Nick Clegg puts it rather well. “If this is true about Blair demanding secrecy, it is outrageous that an inquiry into the biggest foreign policy disaster since Suez is being muzzled to suit the individual needs of the man who took us to war.” If the public mood has anything to do with it, Blair will be giving evidence in public. Then he will have to decide once and for all whether he is a truthful man or an inveterate dissembler. ’ 

    IT IS ONLY NATURAL IF BLAIR IS CONCERNED AT THIS INQUIRY’S OPENNESS

     IN THE EYES OF MANY HE IS ALREADY GUILTY. WELL, ISN’T HE?

    NOTE: This may all be complete invention on the part of The Observer, as much of it is recycled. If it is invention meant to traduce Tony Blair in the time-honoured fashion, it is no less dangerous.

    If it is true that Tony Blair fears that the Inquiry will become a Show Trial, these fears could be well-founded.

    As one the papers and bloggers are traducing him, including the usually fair Iain Dale. Dale doesn’t say much – but the headline is enough. His commenter fill in the blanks, including providing the portrait of Blair with added noose, for effect.


    Blair Pleaded for Private Iraq Inquiry

    Iain Dale 10:23 PM

    ‘Tomorrow’s Observer has the story that Tony Blair exerted pressure on Gordon Brown to hold the Iraq War Inquiry in private. Wonder why that would be, then.’


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    [Pic: Tony Blair, then Prime Minister, announcing the Iraq invasion, 20th March, 2003]


    Excerpts from the Guardian article:

    Tony Blair urged Gordon Brown to hold the independent inquiry into the Iraq war in secret because he feared that he would be subjected to a “show trial” if it were opened to the public, the Observer can reveal.

    Blair, who resisted pressure for a full public inquiry while he was prime minister, appears to have taken a deliberate decision not to express his view in person to Brown because he feared it might leak out.

    Instead, messages were relayed through others to Sir Gus O’Donnell, the cabinet secretary, who conveyed them to the prime minister in the days leading up to last week’s inquiry announcement.

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    Blair is believed to have been alarmed by the prospect that he might be asked to give evidence in public and under oath about the use of intelligence and about his numerous private discussions with US President George Bush at which the two leaders laid plans for war.

    [...]

    A Tory motion that is certain to win wide cross-party backing also calls for the membership of the committee to be widened to include military experts. The Lib Dems are demanding that it also include constitutional and legal experts to assess the legality of the invasion.

    [...]

    Chilcot will come under pressure from both leaders to open up the inquiry to the public. Clegg will want a guarantee that witnesses such as Blair can be summoned to give evidence under oath, while Cameron will ask if the committee can issue an interim report early next year, ahead of a likely spring election.

    The Tories say that, if Brown does not order a U-turn, an incoming Conservative government will “reserve the right” to widen its scope and increase its powers where necessary after an election.

    Sir Christopher Meyer, a former ambassador in Washington who is likely to be called to give evidence to the inquiry, yesterday added his voice to calls for a public inquiry. “I think it should also have powers of subpoena and people should give evidence on oath,” he said. “I would be perfectly comfortable with that.”

    He said the case for openness was increased because there had been “a ton of stuff” published in the US, both via official inquiries and in memoirs written by key players, that made public what had previously been confidential. “I would be perfectly happy for the whole embassy archive in Washington [to be disclosed]: I haven’t got a problem with that being made available,” he added. “Things were very sensitive then, but this is 2009.”

    On his blog, Alastair Campbell, Blair’s former spin doctor, says that, “on balance”, he believes Brown was right to order the inquiry to be held in private. “I can see the arguments for both sides – openness and transparency favours a public inquiry, but it may well be that the inquiry will do a better job freed from the frenzy of 24-hour media.”

    In a letter to the Observer, a group of current and former Labour MPs, headed by Alan Simpson, the chairman of Labour Against the War, demands a complete rethink. “Neither the public nor parliament will understand how the prime minister’s ‘new era of openness’ can begin with an Iraq inquiry held behind closed doors,” says the letter.


    Let me repeat, in case you are failing to get the message – this is NOT, or is not meant to be the Trial of Tony Blair. Nearly ALL of the articles below use as source the Guardian article by David Hencke, with a few others thrown in for interest.

    What else do they have in common? They accept the Hencke line hook line and sinker. Not one offers an alternative analysis. They accept as scripture that Blair presured Brown for a secret Inquiry, and only to serve his own ends and due to his own fears.

    These people, bloggers and press, in my humble opinion, know nothing of balance to their readers or of leadership and its responsibilities.

    “I hope as part of this that you will consider whether it is possible for there to be a process whereby they give their contributions on oath.”

    And yet we STILL hear from such “leaders” as Nick Clegg and even from Sir Mike Jackson that witnesses should give their evidence “under oath” as though no-one else had even considered it.

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    Day 1: THE TRIALS, TRIALS & ‘TRIAL’ OF TONY BLAIR

    June 21, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    21st June, 2009

    STOP PRESS

    It has been denied by Number 10 that Tony Blair “urged”, or in Iain Dale’s innuendo laden word “pleaded” with Gordon Brown to keep the Iraq Inquiry secret. We may never know the truth of this, but one thing is VERY clear.

    The press must cease this constant stoking of the anti-Blair fires, and they must stop it NOW.

    The consequences if they insist on these attacks prior and even during the inquiry, could be tragic, and in the long-run catastrophic.

    It may be that legislation will need to be put in place right now, before the Inquiry starts in a month’s time, to protect the “accused”.

    “Accused”?

    Yes, because this Inquiry is, in the eyes of many, no less than the Trial of Tony Blair.

    The press, if reporting on a murder, fraud, or other criminal case do not prejudice such trials by publicising anything other than the facts around the case and then, without opining, simply reporting the day’s proceedings. They do not tear the accused to bits beforehand, casting further doubts and traducing their integrity. It is against the law to do so in other “cases”, and must be with this one.

    I have watched over the lifetime of this blog – almost three years – as Mr Blair’s reputation has been defamed in what most of us as private citizens would consider slander, even libel. Malicious falsehoods are repeated, copied and pasted and spread internationally.

    THIS IS A FLAWED INQUIRY – OR WORSE, A TRAVESTY

    That same protection must be available to Mr Blair. And it must be available starting NOW. It WOULD be to any other private individual, British citizen or not.

    The press’s approach to their treatment of the former prime minister, as evidenced by The Observer’s article is dangerous on many levels.

    One, it encourages a kind of “mob rule” mentality amongst those who have already found Blair guilty; so he becomes fair game.

    Two, since this Inquiry is in all but name ‘THE TRIAL OF TONY BLAIR’, the ‘defendant’ is clearly not being afforded all the press and legal protection that suspected criminals are offered and invariably get under our system of justice. 

    Blair is not guilty of anything until proven so. This is NOT a trial and so people feel free to regurgitate old opinion and “facts”.

    This is a travesty.

    So before we even start this Inquiry it is, in my humble opinion, dangerously flawed due to already existing prejudice AND opinion against the main protagonist in the Iraq war.

    My third point is that Mr Blair is deeply involved as Middle East peace envoy.  Regardless of whether his opponents think he should be, he is.  He holds an important, perhaps pivotal, certainly sensitive position in that region. Neither he nor his authority should be endangered by the impression that could easily take root across the world in these days of instant online “reporting”.

    AFTER the Inquiry concludes, there MAY be a different judgement to be made. But BEFORE?

    No, No, No.

    I intend to show over the next few posts WHY, without new legislation, given that press self-censorship does NOT work, Tony Blair’s chances of a FAIR hearing at this flawed Inquiry are almost non-existent.



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    Cherie Blair: Michael Sheen doesn’t “do it for me at all”

    June 20, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    20th June, 2009

    CHERIE SAYS – SHEEN LACKS TONY’S “PHYSICAL PRESENCE”

    In a Telegraph interview tomorrow Cherie Blair, revealed that she did not like Michael Sheen’s critically acclaimed portrayal of her husband in the film ‘The Queen’ because “he doesn’t do it for me at all”.

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    Cherie speaks at an "Empowering Women" seminar, Manchester, England, 7th May 2009

    She said: “Tony is six foot and quite broad shouldered and Michael isn’t six foot and isn’t strapping and doesn’t have that physical presence.”

    YES, CHERIE, SOME OF MY FEMALE VISITORS HAVE NOTICED THE COMPARISON TOO

    I guess Sheen doesn’t “do it” for them, either.  Looks like Tony still “does it” for Cherie!

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    Long legged, slimmer, fitter and looking several years younger than when he left office two years ago, Tony Blair in Gaza, 15th June 2009.

    And didn’t Harriet Harman get into trouble for saying something like this? Oh yes – I mentioned it here.

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    Michael Sheen as Tony Blair in "The Queen". Not quite up to the mark, some suggest.

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    President Blair? By October?

    June 20, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    ALL HAIL TO THEE, PRESIDENT BLAIR

    20th June, 2009

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    MAYBE

    Just as the Labour party conference draws to a close in Brighton and we are still trying to work out who is leading them and the country, Tony Blair may well have a new job.

    “NOT another job?” I hear you gasp, “is there no stopping this man?”

    According to this site, if Ireland votes “yes” in the second Lisbon Treaty referendum in September, Blair coud be Boss Man in Europe the following month.

    No wonder he wanted Israel and the Palestinians to sort themselves out in “six months”.

    If it is President Blair, look out Britain.

    At last we will be forced to make a REAL decision – in or out of the EU – no more messing.

    And that includes YOU, Mr Cameron. It might even happen in the middle of the Tory party conference. Then you can be first to congratulate him.

    And breathe a sigh of relief that he WON’T be back in time to defeat your party again.




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    Gordon could “walk away tomorrow”

    June 20, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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  • The Mail, in its usual inhuman way, describes this as a (Mandelson) attempt to “humanise” Brown. Time he got started on the Mail and its nasty commenters, might I suggest?
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    20th June, 2009

    GORDON’S HAD ENOUGH – JUST ABOUT

    You lot have done it – you REALLY have.

    You’ve almost wiped this man out.

    I refer of course to the numerous nasties on the internet and in the press as the culprits, not MY commenters, who are courtesy itself.

    Britain's Prime Minister Gordon Brown attends a meeting in Stratford, east London where he spoke with local Labour Party activists Sunday June 7, 2009.  A top deputy to Britain's troubled Prime Minister Gordon Brown on Sunday warned lawmakers seeking his ouster to end their rebellion _ or risk making the situation of the governing Labour Party more tenuous. Business Secretary Peter Mandelson, appearing on the BBC's Andrew Marr talk show, urged party dissidents to think about the consequences of an ugly leadership battle. The tussle comes as voters are punishing Labour lawmakers for abusing their expense claims in a scandal that has shaken the government. (AP Photo/ Stefan Rousseau/PA)  **  UNITED KINGDOM OUT NO SALES NO ARCHIVE  **

    Gordon Brown attends a meeting in Stratford, east London where he spoke with local Labour Party activists on Sunday June 7, 2009. The parliamentary party was warned by senior colleagues to end their rebellion or risk making the situation more tenuous. Business Secretary Peter Mandelson, appearing on the BBC's Andrew Marr talk show, urged party dissidents to think about the consequences of an ugly leadership battle. The tussle comes as voters are punishing Labour for abusing their expense claims in a scandal that has shaken the government. (AP Photo/ Stefan Rousseau/PA)

    He can’t take any more and would give up the job tomorrow if he could, according to a frank and quite moving interview in today’s Guardian.

    OK, me too. I’m guilty too, with my criticism. 

    Though in my own defence Your Honour, (we’re all up in front of some judge or other these days, aren’t we?) I do recall saying here in my better moments that we have a cruel tendency in this country to treat politicians as though they are sub-human.

    It’s so easy to be nasty, especially it seems to me, if you’re British. And especially towards politicians. Will it take a suicide before we stop this?

    We really SHOULD remember – and that goes for me too, that politicians are also people. They kiss their children goodnight; they feel  as we feel;  they want to laugh as well as cry.

    There is no doubt that Gordon Brown came to power at just about the worst time EVER for this country. It’s been nothing but a minefield since June 2007. He must have wished he hadn’t rid us of Blair. (Sorry. I promise I will not mention my main anti-Gordon gripe again in this post.)

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    The MPs' online expenses reports, with blacked-out sections, mocked in a cartoon, with links to the new Iraq Inquiry. The issue of the war and "truth and lies" still hangs over Brown and his predecessor. This pursuit has been led relentlessly by the press, who, in my opinion, have been highly irresponsible. The shameless press has led the Court of Public opinion to a state where people think it is fair game to judge politicians as 'guilty until proven innocent'. The press's rush to judgement of all those involved in the Iraq decision would never have been attempted if it had been Mugabe or Milosevic under scrutiny. THEIR human rights would have been foremost.

    There were party expenses issues, and resignations even before the Northern Rock, bank takeoves and unfolding recession. And then there were the MPs’ expenses and a deeper recession, and more resignations. Then the attempted coup, and now all the trouble over the Iraq Inquiry.

    “My God”, he must have said to Sarah night after night, “is THIS what running this country is all about?”

    So, Mr Brown, Sir, I apologise if I’ve been nasty to you. You, like all of us, deserve better than this.

    Sorry.

    Sincerely.

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    We hit the BIG TIME! Ayatollah says we Brits are the “MOST EVIL”

    June 19, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    19th June, 2009

    Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has been speaking to the faithful today at Friday prayers

    He said – (drumroll … drummer purlease) - ”Britain is the most evil of the evil”, or words to that effect.

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    And Gordon and Miliband have hardly said ANYTHING. Think how evil we would have been had Blair still been around!

    I’ve been scratching my head as to what we’ve done or even said recently to send this gentlemen into such paroxysms of exaggeration … rage.  Last time I recall anything much happenening between our two countries was when our sailors were nabbed, threatened, then dressed up in ill-fitting suits and a head covering and sent home with their Easter eggs. And that was over two years ago, just before Blair left office.

    The Guardianistos are going to be in a muddle over this. Tony Blair isn’t around to kick for having said anything nasty about the Islamic Republic, and we haven’t even invaded Iran.  But suddenly Britain has been elevated above the US of ObamaLand.

    Now WE are the most loathed, evil and untrustworthy western country in the world.

    So thoughtful of the Supreme Leader.

    In one fell swoop he has reminded the Guardianistos that Brits DO punch above our weight even when we don’t seem to be trying.

    Lovely, eh?

    What our promotion is REALLY all about is simple, really.

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    THE MEDIA’S COVERAGE OF THE IRAN ELECTIONS AFTERMATH AND OBAMA’S SPEECH

    Apart from the western TV coverage – the BBC this time, actually – not to mention the internet, the AyaToldYaSo knows that Obama scored with the young people in Iran and other parts of the Middle East when he appealed to them via reference to his Muslim inheritance.  Ayatollah Ali Khamenei can’t afford to upset too many of the under 30s – which is most of Iran – so he has to pick somebody else to blame in the wicked west. We’re usually next after the states in the pecking order.

    So there you are.

    It was nothing WE did, but something that Big O said.

    White House says Iran protests “extraordinary, courageous.”

    I have yet to be particularly impressed by Mr Obama. I don’t regard politicians as omniscient Gods any more than I regard them as devils.  It took me some time to notice the quality that was Tony Blair.  But with the tactics behind Obama’s speech in Egypt he seeems to have touched a raw nerve.  He has frightened the old warhorse horses.

    So for a time, until the Americans really start laying it onto Obama that tough talk is needed, WE will wear the mantle of the Evil Empire with pride.

    I always think it’s nice to take the weight off a friend’s shoulders when we can, don’t you?

    So ObAmerica can take a breather for a bit. It’s only part of the wicked west now, not the real leader of the ‘Evil Empire’.

    That’s us folks!

    Enjoy it while it lasts.




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    The Dirty Dozen were gunning for Blair, at OUR expense!

    June 19, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    19th June, 2009

    NATIONALISTS TRIED TO CRIMINALISE OUR PRIME MINISTER USING OUR MONEY

    Salmond

    Has something wiped that sneakit' smile off your face, Salmond?

    ARREST THE LOT OF THEM

    Can’t be bothered working out if there were 12 or just 9 (Nats all) of these accomplices in crime, but you get the picture.

    According to the MPs’ expenses reports released today by the House of Commons in black and a touch of white, Alex Salmond, the leader of the SNP (Scottish National Party) and ‘colleagues’ used money from the public purse to attempt to TRY Tony Blair over the Iraq war.

    That’s your money and mine! And without so much as a “by your leave”.  And Salmond is now forced to defend his indefensible position.

    Personally I’d like to see these people arrested for this act of treachery on our country. Stealing OUR money for THEIR regime change.

    Alex Salmond, Scottish Nationalist Party leader’s expensesSee his 2004 detailed pdf file here. “Alex Salmond claimed £14,100 from his office expense allowances to pay for legal advice on impeaching Tony Blair, with the advice provided by Cherie Blair’s Matrix law chambers.  More on this here.

    I have already written here a few weeks ago about the Welsh Nationalist MPs doing the same thing. Except that they did not think it would be even more entertaining to get the legal firm of the former PM’s wife to help to twist the knife. (Great sense of theatre, Salmond, eh?)

    So, BOTH of the parties seeking the break-up of the UK set out to impeach and oust the UK Prime Minister and WE the people, the huge majority British unionists, not separatists, were expected to pay for it!

    I accept that there are people misguided … mad enough to believe that this country was led for ten years by a “war criminal”. There are also people who think Saddam was a respectable gentlemen. 

    In 1994 George Galloway was shown on television telling Saddam: “Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability.”

    Such people as the Nats are welcome to try to indict any politician they want; of course they are.

    But they are NOT welcome to use the public purse to attempt to do so.

    If they had enough faith in their own arguments they should have put their hands in their own pockets and not yours and mine. We, the British public did NOT ask these politically motivated MPs to do this in 2004.  In fact at no time did we ask them to do this.  Was this PUBLIC cash pot mentioned in either party’s manifesto? Of course not.

    And in 2005 to prove our (dis)satisfaction with Blair, and three years into the war in Iraq, we the British public voted for Blair and his party AGAIN – for a third time.

    If you can manage to trace the Scottish National Party’s manifesto for 2005, perhaps you can let me know. The link from this ‘2005 party maifestos’ website is dead. And if you try to enter the “official website of the Scottish National party” you’ll get an “access forbidden” page. Hmm..mm… VERY OPEN government. More on the Scots Nats here and I have finally found their website here. Still no 2005 manifesto, though.

    But yesterday one of their press releases backs criminal sanctions for those who “break the rules” on expenses. Would that be a hands-up guv? Fair cop?

    ‘Speaking about the proposals for legal sanctions against wayward MPs Westminster SNP Leader Angus Robertson said:

    “Westminster must introduce new legal sanctions against MPs that break the rules. The public are quite right when they say that MPs should not be exempt from serious consequences if they break the rules.’

    QUITE.

    Plaid Cymru’s 2005 manifesto (pdf) Excerpt: 

     ‘Plaid Cymru the Party of Wales, opposed US/UK military action in Afghanistan and Iraq. We are now leading the campaign to impeach Tony Blair for the way he twisted the truth to justify the war in Iraq.’

     But they didn’t think it worth mentioning that they had already charged US, the voters, for this ‘campaign’, did they?

    Presumably WE the British public are in our millions complicit in the “crimes” of this “war criminal” and should all be standing in the crowded dock alongside him (unless we voted for the Nats or their ilk.)

    So that gets me out of jail free, since I did not vote for Labour.

    I would now! If only Blair were leading it.


    Ignoring Alex Salmond won’t make him go away

    (UNFORTUNATELY)

     

    (Following Salmond’s shifty crowd’s 2007 success, by ONE seat, at the Scottish Parliament elections.)

    Knowing what we now know about Salmond’s attempts to impeach Blair, do you wonder? Would YOU ring up and congratulate someone who had just tried to get you behind bars? I certainly wouldn’t.

    IT’S ALL TONY’S FAULT

    Just a reminder here that Tony Blair, the Great Evil Dictator himself, changed the expenses rules in 2004 on second homes, aka flipping, which have now led to so many of the present unhappy gang of MPs coming a cropper.  WHY didn’t they notice? Another thing the GED did was to introduce the Freedom of Information legislation in 2000. Prior to this the public had NO IDEA what expenses MPs were claiming.

    Nice one, Tony. But you won’t get the credit – only the blame.


    MORE ON THE NASTY NATS

    I don’t know exactly which of the Scottish National accomplices … erm … MPs charged us for their failed attempt to oust Blair and get him in jail. But these are the only ones I can find who were sitting in parliament at that time.  Not that they often came.

    I do know all three Welsh Nationalist MPs have already admitted to claiming for the same attempt. They divided up their initial £4,000 legal charges between the three of them.

    The Nasty Nine – or Hateful Eight, according to my count.

    PLAID CYMRU MPs

    SNP MPs


    MPs’ expenses have now been published by the House of Commons. The pdf files on EACH of the MPs (not just Blair’s) have been largely blacked out, for ‘data protection’ reasons (another Blair innovation in 1998. You couldn’t make this up!)

    But worry not, dear honest truth seekers. The Telegraph will soon complete its service to the British people and democracy and fill in the blanks.

    expenses_blacked_crop

     

    David Cameron, Conservative leader, 2004- 2008

    Gordon Brown, present Prime Minister, 2004- 2008

    Nick Clegg, Liberal Democrat leader, 2004- 2008

    (For further insights on the three above, click the links next to view each year in detail.)


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    Welsh Nationalists failed plan to oust Blair – THEIR legal costs paid by you and me

    See Elfyn Llwyd’s expenses here

    Salmond defends his action against atacks in Scotland

    Alastair Campbell wonders why Ed Balls, Brown’s hitherto right-hand man, thinks the Iraq Inquiry should be more “open”

    Teletext coverage of Salmond’s bid to convict Blair

    Cameron to pay back some more of his expenses

    Daily Mail – Tony Blair’s new roof. Looks like he needed one. Bullet-proof windows too? Remember Blair was entitled to this, whether we approve or not.  Salmond and co were NOT entitled to charge US to aid in their little scheme of blackening the name and reputation of our then PM.  The press were doing that well enough, anyway.

    The Nats’ aim was no less than “regime change”.

    It’s a pity Blair allowed these people a devolved Scottish parliament in the first place, one of his first actions in 1997.

    Oh, yes, another thing you couldn’t make up.

    ETCETERA

    Suspect wanted to “kill infidels”

    Anjem Choudary & his lunatic fringe: ”we’re here to bring Brits the beauty of Islam” 

    British Police stop & search non-Muslims purely to silence critics! 



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    Iraq Inquiry & MPs’ Expenses & SNP leader charges YOU for HIS political game

    June 18, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    18th June, 2009

    IRAQ INQUIRY, MPs’ EXPENSES AND THE (missing – until NOW) SNP LINK

    I know that to many of us the upcoming Iraq Inquiry and MPs’ expenses are the BIG things happening in Britain right now. It may not surprise you to hear that I am not so convinced.

    Unfortunately, while we have our perturbed heads buried in our politicians’ navels (sorry, nasty thought), REAL politics still goes on. To much of this we are paying far too little attention.

    Still, since, like most of the poulation, you are probably interested in both the Iraq Inquiry and/or expenses, here are some links to keep you chewing the nasty-tasting cud.

    ALEX SALMOND’S ATTEMPT TO GET BLAIR INTO COURT COST YOU AND ME £14,000!

    The ONE expense that stood out to me is this one – from Alex Salmond, Scottish Nationalist Party leader.

    See Salmond’s expenses here, and his 2004 detailed pdf file here.

    “Alex Salmond claimed £14,100 from his office expense allowances to pay for legal advice on impeaching Tony Blair, with the advice provided by Cherie Blair’s Matrix law chambers.

    The first minister billed the Commons authorities for hiring Rabinder Singh QC, one of the UK’s leading authorities on human rights legislation, when the Scottish National party and other opposition MPs tried to impeach the then prime minister for war crimes in 2004.”

    Just in case you’re reeling back in incredulity – YES, Salmond was expecting, no demanding that YOU and ME pay for his attempt to get OUR elected Prime Minister impeached!

    And yes, he  – I mean we – were paying for advice for this foul deed through said (then) PM’s wife’s legal offices!! (Though not, I hasten to add to Cherie Booth herself.)

    THE DIRTY DOZEN

    Salmond had some colleagues in this crime – the three Welsh Nationalist MPs. Those three divided up their legal costs of around £4,000 in their ‘Impeach Blair’ campaign. According to Salmond’s defence of these charges here, he and eight colleagues divied up THEIR costs.

    So what happens if/when Blair is found NOT GUILTY of any crimes, lies, impropriety over the Iraq war decision? Can we then impeach all of these 12 nationalist MPs?

    Yes, please. Anyone starting a fund?

    More on Plaid Cymru’s leader (Elfyn Llwyd [wikipedia])

    See Elfyn Llwyd’s expenses here.


    MPs’ expenses have now been published by the House of Commons. The pdf files on EACH of the MPs (not just Blair’s) have been blacked out. But worry not. The Telegraph will soon complete its service to the British people and democracy soon and fill in the blanks.

    David Cameron, Conservative leader, 2004- 2008

    Gordon Brown, present Prime Minister, 2004- 2008

    Nick Clegg, Liberal Democrat leader, 2004- 2008

    (For further insights on the three above, click the links next to view each year in detail.)

    Cameron to pay back some of his expenses.


    Iraq Inquiry – semi-open now?

    The government seems to have conceded under pressure to allow SOME of the Inquiry evidence to be heard in public.

    Daft really. The really important stuff, according to the conspiracy theorists  - conversations between Bush and Blair – will NOT be held in open session, because of secrecy and security arrangements between Britain and America.

    In fact, on that failure the whole thing may well collapse, leaving no-one satisfied.

    So whether this inquiry takes just one, or five, or ten or fifteen years and costs multi-millions, it will NEVER satisfy those who KNOW it all.




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    Tony Blair’s Doodles? Nope.

    June 18, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    18th June, 2009

    BLAIR IS NOT A DOODLER

    If your name is Tony Blair you spend half your life having to disown what you are accused of; wrongly accused, of course.

    This circle of accusation/denial might finally come to an end on one particular issue in about year’s time after the fifth or whatever Iraq Inquiry. Or after five years if the Inquiry is semi-open, or after about fifteen if it’s completely open.

    But why oh why does the press continue to feed the avaricious Blair Destruction Machine? Or at least four of our great British publications on this tedious matter below?

    Have they no shame? No sense of British fair play? No understanding of REAL threats? No concept of justice?

    (Apologies. I’m in a rhetorical question mood today.)

    So here, for those of you who may have missed it first time round,  is this on ‘Blair’s doodles’:

    Betty’s Doodles, Morning Edition, March 12, 2009

    Four years ago at Davos, the famous world economic forum, then-Prime Minister Tony Blair appeared on a panel with Bill Gates, Bill Clinton and the rock star Bono. After the panel, a journalist wandering the stage came across some papers scattered near Blair’s seat. The papers were covered in doodles: circles and triangles, boxes and arrows.

    “Your standard meeting doodles,” says David Greenberg, professor of journalism at Rutgers University.

    So this journalist brought his prize to a graphologist who, after careful study, drew some pretty disturbing conclusions. According to experts quoted in the Independent and The Times, the prime minister was clearly “struggling to maintain control in a confusing world” and “is not rooted.” Worse, Blair was apparently, “not a natural leader, but more of a spiritual person, like a vicar.”

    Two other major British newspapers, which had also somehow gotten access to the doodles, came to similar conclusions.

    A couple days later, No. 10 Downing Street finally weighed in. It had done a full and thorough investigation and had an important announcement to make:

    The doodles were not made by Blair; they were made by Bill Gates. Gates had left them in the next seat over.


    billgates_tblair_wef2005Well, that’s alright then. The doodler was only the richest man in the world, and great philanthropist.

    Phew!

    I was worried for a moment.

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    As we SCREAM about corrupt politicians, THIS goes on unnoticed in London

    June 18, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    18th June, 2009

    Clashes as Muslim extremists attempt to segregate women

    (Hat tip to Infidels Unite)

    Pig Anjem Choudary
    This Is London –Rashid Razaq 
     

    A public debate organised by a banned Islamist group sparked scuffles and angry confrontations over segregated seating for women.

    Police were called after members of Al Muhajiroun physically prevented men and women from sitting next to each other leading to claims of assault and intimidation.

    The event titled Sharia law versus British law was meant to see radical preacher Anjem Choudary debate Douglas Murray, director of the right-wing thinktank the Centre for Social Cohesion at Conway Hall in central London last night.

    However the venue’s owners cancelled the meeting before it even got under way because of “fundamentalist thugs” who clashed with Mr Murray’s supporters at the entrance.

    It led to a noisy stand-off outside the building in Red Lion Square for more than an hour as police intervened to keep the two sides apart.

    Mr Choudary planned to use the event to publicly relaunch Al Muhajiroun five years after it was supposedly disbanded. It was led by Omar Bakri until his deportation for glorifying terrorism after praising the 9/11 hijackers as “the Magnificent 19”.

    But the preacher had the microphone snatched out of his hand last night after his black-suited security guards pushed out women trying to enter the main hall where around 60 Muslim men were seated. Women were confined to the upstairs balcony.

    Burkha

    Giles Enders, chairman of the South Place Ethical Society which runs Conway Hall, took to the stage and said he was cancelling the event because of the forced segregation of men and women.

    Mr Enders said: “I’m not prepared to have fundamentalist thugs in our hall preventing people from coming in. We do not condone segregation.”

    Mr Choudary then addressed his followers in the street launching into a fiery invective attacking British society as “corrupt” and “morally bankrupt” and warning the UK would be turned into a Sharia state.

    He said: “This country is rife with social and economic problems and only Islam has the answer.


    Following this “event”, Douglas Murray call on the government to ban al-Muhajiroun (Read pdf file from ‘The Centre for Social Cohesion’ here)

    Al-Muhajiroun Hijack Sharia Law Debate
    Centre for Social Cohesion Press Release 17 June 2009

    The Centre for Social Cohesion (CSC) tonight urges the Government to ban the radical Islamist group al-Muhajiroun after police were called to a sharia law debate between CSC Director Douglas Murray and the newly appointed British al-Muhajiroun leader Anjem Choudary. Al-Muhajiroun hijacked the debate, „Sharia law vs British law‟, which was organised by a student society. Members of the radical organisation responsible for the Luton protests took over the debate: the SIA – licensed security guards were al-Muhajiroun and members of the group attempted to intimidate and segregate the audience. One member of the public who objected to the segregation was manhandled and assaulted as he tried to enter the men‟s section with a woman. He is pressing charges. The Police took statements from eyewitnesses. The Centre upholds the right to Freedom of Speech within the law – staff from the Centre will debate anyone on an independent platform with a neutral chair. CSC Director Douglas Murray was asked by a student society to counter Choudary‟s views at a debate they were organising at a neutral venue. The society assured the Centre that they had no external affiliations, that they had booked an independent chair and SIA-licensed security guards. When CSC staff members arrived at the debate, however, is was clear the Centre had been misled. The security guards were members of al-Muhajiroun. The student society had neglected to mention that the event would be segregated. The society‟s “independent chair” was involved in the assault. It soon became clear that the student society was, if not a front group for al-Muhajiroun, then at least Islamist-sympathisers hijacked by the extremist group. According to eyewitnesses, present in the audience was convicted terrorist Simon Keeler – one of the six al-Muhajiroun members convicted in April 2008 for inciting terrorism overseas and terrorist fundraising. The CSC previously revealed that these men had been granted early release from prison in May this year. No employee from the Centre for Social Cohesion would speak on an al-Muhajiroun platform. An unrepresentative fringe organisation, their ideology glorifies violent jihad and calls for the murder of non-Muslims and Muslims who do not prescribe to their narrow interpretation of Islam. Until al-Muhajiroun is banned, however, when Anjem Choudary is given an independent and neutral platform to speak the Centre believes it is important his views are publically countered. Following al-Muhajiroun‟s announcement earlier this month that they planned to relaunch, the CSC revealed that one in seven Islamist-related convictions in the last decade have had links with the extremist group: 15% of all those convicted in the UK of terrorism-related offences were either members of, or have known links to, the organisation. In 2005 the then-Prime Minister Tony Blair announced plans to ban al-Muhajiroun, originally founded in 1996 by banned preacher Omar Bakri Mohammed. The group disbanded in October 2004 before the government banned it and its two successor groups, the Saved Sect and al-Ghurabaa, were banned in July 2006 for glorifying terrorism. Yet al-Muhajiroun remains legal. Legislation to proscribe the group, however, is already in place: the Terrorism Act 2006 provides that groups operating wholly or in part under a different name may be subject to proscription.
    Douglas Murray, Director of the Centre for Social Cohesion, says:

    “I am happy to debate anyone’s opinions in a free and fair open debate. It’s what keeps liberal democracies free. It’s what liberal democracy is all about. But under these circumstances – where a mob takes over an event, resorts to violence and forces gender segregation – then such a debate cannot take place.”

    “I would be very willing to debate Anjem Choudary’s views at any debate that was secure and impartial. I look forward to debating him.”

    Press enquiries: 0207 222 8909 / 07538 248610 / pressoffice@socialcohesion.co.uk
    The Centre for Social Cohesion is an independent think tank

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    Iraq Inquiry – WHO to “Blame”? Who do YOU think?

    June 16, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    UPDATE, 17th June: For Mark Steel at ”The Independent” this INQUIRY is a TRIAL. Need I say more?

    I needn’t, but I will. Odd that The Indie diatribe doesn’t mention Lord Guthrie, who blames Brown for failing to fund the forces properly despite Blair’s promise to do so. If there IS back-covering going on, it’s not just Blair’s.

    16th June, 2009

    I just spotted a teletext comment which said this:

    ‘We need to know who to blame

    So we are to have an independent inquiry into the Iraq war in private to establish “lessons learned”.

    Isn’t it remarkable that Gordon Brown has decided that the inquiry should specifically exclude “apportioning blame”, which is just the reason that the electors want an inquiry.

    It will be the usual whitewash and will be millions of pounds wasted.’

    WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

    “We” do NOT need to know who to “blame”.  “We” have already laid the blame at the feet of the former Prime Minister.

    Let’s get something straight: democratically elected governments or politicians are not targets to “blame” for their decisions, except at the time of elections. The former Prime Minister won a third general election DESPITE having taken this country into what is often described as an “unpopular war”. Three years after that war had started and not in its first flush of “success”, he STILL won, this time a third historical election.

    We the people have not taken to the streets in our millions against the war.  True, there were some, perhaps even a million who once did. But there were over 60 million who NEVER did.

    Some bereaved parents of the fallen have formed groups to pursue the government and in particular Tony Blair (to his dying day), for this “wrong decision”.  But MOST, yes, MOST have not joined any such groups.

    Such a comment apart from being typically British – “blaming someone” – betrays the lies behind the reasons so many said they wanted an inquiry in the first place – “to learn lessons”.

    That was always a falsehood.

    And it came primarily from those who can change their own minds when it suits them, such as Clegg on Trident

    The REAL reasons were:

    • Since ”we” KNOW Tony Blair took us into an “illegal war” we want him to answer for it at The Hague International Criminal Court.
    • Since “we” never liked Blair’s presidential style of government and his “sucking up to America” we want him to answer for those things too.
    • Since Blair OBVIOUSLY “lied” to us, he must stand in the naughty corner with a dunce’s cap, forever, if necessary.
    • Since “we” hate war, politicians must learn, by example NOT NEVER …  NO NEVER, to “do” war. We’ll make an example of Blair and his government – “pour encourager les autres”.

    There are probably many more reasons, but these will suffice to make the point on the lack of “genuine” argument or wider politial understanding.

    I take great exception to these “we know” arguments. We know nothing. And even if we did know, do we really think OUR politicans are as evil as Mugabe, Milosovic and Hitler, with malice aforethought coursing through their veins and their every political decision? 

    If “we” do, can I respectfully suggest a visit to a psycho-analyst?


    A far more balanced teletext opinion is this newer one:

    “No blame over Iraq

    There has been a disgusting response to the proposed Iraq war inquiry. We have the Stop The War Coalition, risk-averse politicians and commentators all with the benefit of hindsight, pre-judging any results. These, plus families calling for blame, legal action and possible compensation, belittle the sacrifices of those who fought. The decision was supported by both major parties, based on current information. As such no blame can be attached. “


    Time magazine’s Catherine Mayer provides comprehensive coverage following the announcement of the Iraq Inquiry. She also links to other issues around it with a reporter’s eye, rather than that of a hanging judge, as we are wont to find in British coverage.

    Since I am of the opinion that rather than ‘the worst foreign policy decision’, the Iraq invasion was actually THE BEST foreign policy decision we have made for 50 years.  I have said so here on several occasion, an I won’t labour the point in my own inadequate words.

    Suffice it to say that I do not, and never will accept the facile premise that Tony Blair, a Prime Minister who made me proud to be British, was mad, bad, or sad in his decisions over Iraq, and should be banged up or preferably hanged to mollify those who are persuaded otherwise.

    Time, not necessarily a publication with which I agree on every occasion provides some food for thought in its take on this.

    So, why re-invent the wheel?

    Time’s coverage follows:


    Finally, a British Inquiry Into The Iraq War’.

    [Aside - there have 4 inquiries already.]

    By Catherine Mayer

    Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair resisted public pressure for a comprehensive inquiry into the Iraq War. On June 15, his successor Gordon Brown raised the white flag, informing the House of Commons that he had ordered an inquiry even before British troops complete their withdrawal from Basra this summer. “Thanks to our efforts and those of our allies over six difficult years, a young democracy has replaced a vicious 30-year dictatorship,” said the Prime Minister.

    If everyone agreed that the Iraq war was a good thing, the British debate about the Iraq campaign and its messy aftermath would be drained of the roiling anger that continues to define it. But there would still be questions about Britain’s role and legacy in Iraq, unresolved by two earlier inquiries. The 2003 Hutton Inquiry restricted its gaze to the circumstances around the death of a British official named David Kelly who criticized the government’s dossier on Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction. A year later, the Butler Inquiry examined the quality of intelligence that informed the government’s decision to join the Iraq campaign. The independent, private inquiry announced by Brown is set to consider a period from the build-up to the conflict in the summer of 2001 through to July of this year. (See pictures of Iraq’s revival.)

    The inquiry committee, made up of two historians, a diplomat and a member of the House of Lords without party affiliations, and chaired by a civil servant, Sir John Chilcot, can be expected to probe the political hinterland to Britain’s actions, in particular the government’s abandonment of its oft-stated objective of destroying Saddam’s WMD in favor of pursuing regime change. Among other conundrums likely to be scrutinized: To what extent did British concerns about the dangers of American unilateralism trump competing fears about the reliability of intelligence and risk of rupturing European relations? How much effort went into postwar planning? Why did Britain continue to reduce its forces in Basra even as the Shi’ite insurgency gained pace?

    The objective of the inquiry, Brown told the House of Commons, is not to apportion blame but to learn lessons to “strengthen the health of our democracy, our diplomacy and our military.” Critics cast doubt on the ability of an investigation conducted in camera to deliver transparency. “What is the point of an inquiry behind closed doors? No family would be happy with that,” said Rose Gentle in a statement issued by the campaign group she founded, Military Families Against the War. Her son Gordon was killed by a roadside bomb in Basra in 2004, one of 179 casualties among 45,000 British troops deployed in Iraq since the invasion. “We already feel that we have been lied to by the government,” she said. “We don’t want any more lies.” (Watch an interview with Gordon Brown.)

    Modeled on the 1982 Franks Inquiry into the Falklands War, the new inquiry has no powers of subpoena and will hold no public hearings. Its report will be published, but with some information considered potentially harmful to national security redacted. Sir Menzies Campbell, former leader of the Liberal Democrats and member of two key parliamentary committees, the Foreign Affairs Select Committee and the Security and Intelligence Committee, suggests the inquiry can only make sense of events if it takes evidence in America. “One presumes this inquiry would want to talk to Rumsfeld and Cheney and George W. himself, although I doubt that they will make themselves available,” says Campbell. (See pictures of U.S. troops’ 5 years in Iraq.)

    The Iraq War was a “catastrophic foreign policy decision,” according to Campbell. One key witness, who has privately already signaled his willingness to attend, will hope to see that decision vindicated. Blair, now Middle East Peace Envoy for the European Union, United Nations, U.S. and Russia, and a front-runner to become the E.U.’s first president, continues to insist he made the right call. “It was right to remove Saddam, it was right to give the country a chance to have the democratic process,” he told an interviewer a month before he stood down as British Prime Minister in June 2007, fatally weakened by public anger over Iraq. (See pictures of the Bush-Blair friendship.)

    “God gives power to whomsoever he chooses and he also takes it away.” That’s the resonant Koranic inscription around the cupola of Basra Palace, one of many lavish residences Saddam commissioned for himself. Whatever the Iraq War inquiry discovers, it’s on the streets of Basra, which was under British control until this spring, that Britain’s legacy will finally be judged. Earlier this year, a Basrawi policeman on sentry duty outside the palace told TIME of his optimism for the future. “For the first time in our history, we’re allowed a diversity of opinions,” he said. But asked if he credited Britain with helping to establish the fledgling democracy that allows this diversity, he clammed up. “If I’m frank with you, I will be punished by my commander,” he said. “If I answer from my heart, I will lose my job.” A second policeman, listening to the conversation, had fewer reservations. “America and Britain didn’t come here to help the Iraqis,” he interjected. “Anything you did, you did for your own benefit.” With cynicism about the motivations for the war widespread in Iraq and back in Britain, any inquiry, however flawed, is surely a welcome one.

    Read: “Rebuilding Basra.”

    See pictures of Iraq.


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    1. Another demented, pre-determined judgemental crowd of ignorant know-alls here – guess where? - scream abuse at OUR democracy, OUR politicians and OUR political system.  They mention nothing about General Guthrie’s support of Blair or the opinions of the huge majority of the troops who have taken great pride in their work in Iraq – “helping the people”.  They mention nothing but the numbers of dead, and Blair’s “guilt” as a “war criminal”. They make me ashamed to share the same island.  I hope NONE of them is ever asked to do jury service. I’m SORRY, but people DO die in war, troops and innocents.  And most of the innocents were killed by insurgents – car bombs – remember them, before we rid that blighted land of most of them? Blair had the support of parliament for his decision on the evidence available at the time, no matter how “contrived” these idiots think it was. Bottom line.  The fact that these tiny minds do NOT believe him means NOTHING. These people deserve the Liberal Democrats, they really do. I hope they all roast in the hell they wish for Blair!

    2. A thoughtful analysis from Dave Cole (who opposed the war) as to why the Iraq Inquiry SHOULD be held in secret.

    3. Tony Blair’s Big Gamble (Feb 2003) – on Iraq: Excerpt – ‘… as a senior British official said admiringly, on Iraq he [Blair] has never wavered. “He is convinced,” said another official, “that if we don’t tackle weapons of mass destruction now, it is only a matter of time before they fall into the hands of rogue states or terrorists. If George Bush wasn’t pressing for action on this, Blair would be pressing George Bush on it.” Blair’s commitment to Bush is a huge gamble twice over. He is risking his position as the dominant figure in British political life…’

    4. Tony Blair (Jan 2003) on Iraq. A principled PM, even if it destroys him. And for that, Bush is a very lucky man. Excerpt -’In the messy world of international politics, a set of clear principles, alas, is not a guarantee of sound policy. But as we all instinctively know, they are just what you need in a friend — or an ally. And that is why, as the President choppers in to Camp David this week, Bush could do worse than reflect that he is a very lucky man.’

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    The Three Musketeers Return: from Granita to Desperados

    June 16, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm

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    UPDATE, 19th June: The PLOT thickens! Gordon Brown, last Thursday, surrendered significant powers over the City of London to new bodies of European Union financial regulators, according to a high-ranking Brussels official. And no-one here in Britain noticed.  We were too busy moaning about expenses.  Watch this space. More on this report here, below.

    16th June, 2009

    TALES OF THE UNEXPECTED?

    It was a warm April evening in the spring of 2010. In two months time a general election would be called. Three of the most powerful men in Britain, if not Europe, had parked most of their security people outside in the beer garden of Desperados, once known as Granita. “After all, who’d want to kill us here in a restaurant in leafy Islington”, one of the protected teased.

    The restaurant was closed to the general public for the rest of the night.

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    The Prime Minister, his Deputy and the first permanent President of the EU perused their menus with quiet satisfaction.  It wasn’t often they had the chance to chew over the last few momentous years or to look seriously at their mapped-out futures. Indeed at the future of their country and continent.

    Expecting the unexpected had never before been embodied so sweetly as in the recent deliverance of two utterly devastating shocks to the British political system and more deservedly to the press.

    His mind further in the past than that, the British Prime Minister murmured, ”It only seems like yesterday.”

    He didn’t lift his eyes from the confusing list of Mexican fare not even to glance at his companions or expand on the thought. There was no need.

    “It was yesterday, wasn’t it?” quipped his deputy. “Who’d have thought it?”

    “You, Peter?”

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    Architects of "The New Labour Project" - Brown, Blair & Mandelson, 1996

    “Only one thing left to do”, interjected the new permanent EU President still basking in the warm and somewhat unexpected glow of his enthusiastic reception from within the rest of Europe.

    “Only one?” quizzed the PM, raising an eyebrow.

    “Yes”, replied the EU boss with some urgency in his voice. “To make sure YOU win again, Tony.”

    Win, Gordon?” the familiar winning smile itself seemed to query back incredulously at his old friend. “Cameron and his EU-fault line of a party are already dead meat. Right, Peter?”

    “Right, left and centre”, whispered the Dark Arts master.

    MAKE MINE A TEQUILA – WITH A TWIST

    “Tequilas all round, please”, the Unexpected Come-Again Prime Minister beamed as he gazed up with disarming, beguiling charm at the starstruck waitress.  Even in her innocent separation from the dark side she knew she was witnessing history. 

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    “We’ll have the drinks before the meal, if you don’t mind. But no desesperado – no rush.”

    “Of course…” she paused, coming to terms with her own words, ”… whatever you say … Prime Minister.”

    Now,”  the Prime Minister turned to his partners in The Project, “shall we ring Alastair?”

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    The Return of the (4?) Musketeers

    With special thanks to a like-mind here to whom I owe some inspired thoughts/flights of the imagination.


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    Telegraph report 19th June. Excerpts:

    ‘The European Commission and other EU officials are celebrating after the Prime Minister accepted on Thursday night the creation of European supervisors over national regulators.

    Senior EU officials described how in return for a promise that Brussels regulators can not have power to tell the British government when, and by how much, to bail out banks, Mr Brown has given ground on a broad range of other supervisory powers.

    “One year ago, if you had asked if was it possible to go so far as to have the Prime Minister of Britain accepting not only common principles but common systems of auditing and binding decisions at the EU level, then I think that no one would have believed it,” said a senior official.

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    “The members of the general council of the European Central Bank will elect the chair of the ESRB,” the draft communique states.’




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    Keep The Dead Flag Flying…

    June 15, 2009 by keeptonyblairforpm
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    15th June, 2009

    This is a Guest post originally published here at Blair Foundation Watch, another site in support of Tony Blair.

    “On listening to the “Keep The Dead Flag Flying” YouTube (copied here below) I thought the song was quite catchy but would be more educational if the words “New Labour” were replaced by the words “Old Labour”. In recent elections, as a Blairite, instead of abstaining, I voted tactically for the Green Party and Liberals in order to protest against unelected Marxist Gordon Brown and his Stalinist ways.

    The way I see the Labour Party is this. It has been divided ever since Tony Blair arrived on the scene and made it electable. There are two Labour parties: Old Labour (aka Brownites) and New Labour (aka Blairites). The past 12 years have shown that without Tony Blair the two cannot be united.

    Gordon Brown sounds mixed up and speaks with forked tongue because at heart he is really Old Labour and is beholden to the unions who backed him and not Tony Blair. They relished and stoked character assassinations against Tony Blair portraying him as a liar. Where are the likes of George Galloway these days compared to the days when Mr Blair was in office, I wonder.

    Old Labour is for the unions and communists which, in this day and age of globalisation, makes it unelectable. New Labour is for those of us who are centre left, on the side of workers, wanting a fairer society. But Brown and his Brownites resent Tony Blair and the Blairites because he/they managed to moderate the die hard commies and make the Labour Party strong enough to be electable for three terms.

    Without New Labourites, Old Labour is just a bunch of last century commies. If the Blairites started another party it could become electable but the same cannot be said of Old Labour who will always (happily, I think, it’s in their genes) remain in opposition moaning with the BNP.

    Alastair Campbell’s latest blogpost [June 13, 2009 - A House Divided?] tells us that a house divided against itself cannot stand and he quotes Jesus Christ: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand.”

    After 40 years, many of us in my age group (I am a few weeks older than Tony Blair) who suffered working through the three-day week and the Thatcher era will never vote Labour or Conservative again because we fear both, which is why I think UKIP is growing and the BNP is attracting people from the far left and right with slogans such as “British jobs for British workers”.

    Apart from serving his own ambitions, who is Gordon Brown catering to? Last week’s TV programme Question Time featured a worker from LDV who spoke passionately about how the company had been left up a creek without a paddle for several months on end whilst trying to stay afloat and develop its new ‘green’ car. My heart went out to him when he said (sounding genuinely heartbroken) to QT Panelist Welsh Secretary Peter Hain (something along these lines): “You may have forgotten us but we will NEVER forget you when it comes to the next election.” I’m glad he received a great round of applause.

    What to do? Our prime minister is an unelected Lord and the other prime minister is an unelected prime minister who is not up to the job and has turned England into a Stasi State. Peter Mandelson has a reputation for being ruthless and Machiavellian (not a good role model for youngsters) and hellbent on the privatisation of our precious Royal Mail and the decimation of village Post Offices.

    I say, bring back Tony Blair to complete the full third term that he promised and send Bruiser Brown back to Glasgow where he belongs. Give unstinting support and respect to our troops, police and pensioners to whom we owe our freedoms. Bring back National Service and military hospitals for military personnel and, if possible, their dependents. Allow us to choose or vote in (or out) our local GPs. Make public the pros and cons of our parliamentary system and role in Europe and the Euro and allow people to vote on such important issues. There’s an endless list of things that could be done to undo the damage that Gordon Brown and Old Labour have inflicted on England but it takes a charismatic leader like Tony Blair to pull it all together.

    Scotsman Brown has a reputation for despising the English and their middle class and thinks it is OK to lie and destroy ones closest friends and colleagues. I’ll never forget how Tony Blair ended up in hospital with a near heart attack and for how long he and his family had to endure the stresses and strains of Brown’s incessant cruel bullying. At least Cherie Blair now knows that voters have seen for themselves what she meant about the type of man living next door in Number 11.

    Having said all that, I doubt very much if Mr Blair would put himself and his family through the hellhole world of the Brownites again. So, it would appear that the song – Keep The Dead Flag Flying – is pretty accurate: Labour is dead. And, might I add, it is all Gordon Brown’s doing. Tony Blair would still be in office if Gordon Brown had put New Labour first and not cheated voters by forcing him out of office before his term was up.

    My hope for Mr Blair, if he cannot be persuaded to return to the snakepit of Westminster, is that he is presented with an opportunity to become a president of the EU and takes it. I for one will feel happy and proud to see him in such a well deserved position after the decade of hell he went through leading a thankless and unappreciative Labour Party.

    The Dead Flag

    Posted to YouTube by economicvoicedotcom 12 June 2009: Gordon Brown will not be singing this song. Lyrics By Dungeekin and Music performed by the Titanic Captain from The Economic Voice. Hat tip: Comments section at Guido Fawkes’ blog, 13 June 2009.
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    Update 9pm Saturday, 13 June 2009: I wrote the above in response to Alastair Campbell’s blog post mentioned above. Earlier on today, i visited