The “SO-CALLED war on terror”. It isn’t SO-CALLED. EITHER way!

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18th May 2011

It IS a “war on terror”

From "The Religion of Peace" which keeps an updating list of Islamist terror acts around the world. (Click picture.)

FIRST CAME THE TERROR, THEN CAME THE WAR AGAINST IT

It was NOT the other way round. We who believe in standing and fighting terrorism didn’t CAUSE the terrorism. Even if we had caused it, it is our responsibility to fight it.  In his memoir, A Journey, Tony Blair refers to this issue of muddled semantics by those questioning George Bush’s phrase. Blair says, “if it isn’t a war on terror, what is it?”

The phrase “the so-called war on terror” is still regurgitated regularly by our so-called liberal literati. Our media, especially of the left, clearly don’t accept there is such a thing as a war. Or perhaps they do not accept that there is such a thing as terror! Or perhaps they do not accept that, even given the existence of terrorism, there is a need for a war against it.

See this early list of terrorist atrocities (dating from 1929 but stopping prior to 9/11.)

Why don’t the so-called thinkers make up their minds and say what they really think instead of hiding behind a meaningless and ambiguous phrase?

What they mean, surely, is –

“… this so-called terror”

or perhaps –

“… this so-called war”

or perhaps –

“this war, which is not against terror but against Muslims/Islam”

In other words – there’s no terror, or there is futility in fighting a war against it, or we are at war for different reasons than those which we state.

The reason they can’t or won’t admit their real opinions? It’s got to be the third of the options above. The other two are impossible to defend, even for the deniers.

Frankly, our pc media trust the poor hard-done by terrorists’ tales of victimisation more, far more than they trust western interpretations of the political facts.

BUT THEY “LIED” TO US

Many press minds have been polluted by the idea that we in the west were “lied to” by such as Bush and Blair. From that position anything else, even the obvious, is tainted by this bias. It’s not as though terrorists ever lie, after all, is it?

If such as Jeremy Paxman, whose Newsnight last night was one of the worst I have yet had the misfortune of watching (see here below) are so blinded by their pompous and juvenile distaste for western politicians’ so-called “lies” it’s time they opened their eyes to the facts of life, politics, the media, terror and war.

At least they’d be being honest for once. We could then put them into the correct bolt-hole.

1. Those that don’t accept there is any Islamist fundamentalist terror.

OR

2. Those that don’t believe there is any need for a war.

OR

3. Those that accept there is a war but also believe it is not a war being fought for the reasons given; the pro-conspiracy theorists, in other words.

When they find the relevant bolt-hole they should jump into it with courage and leave behind the weaselly words. Let’s hope it’s not the same sort of bolt-hole either Saddam or bin Laden chose to dig themselves into.

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IRRELEVANT NEWSNIGHT

Paxman, 17th May 2011 Newsnight (watch here). The day the Queen started her 4-day visit to Ireland Newsnight didn’t mention it. Indeed. they were determined not to mention it. They didn’t even do the ‘papers tomorrow’ as they usually do, presumably just to show they weren’t mentioning the Queen. It’d be imossible to mention the Queen’s visit to Ireland without mentioning the fact that Tony Blair and his government had a very big hand in making this visit possible.  And whatever the BBC, in this case Newsnight is for it’s not for applauding Tony Blair. For anything, even for his greatest achievement.

Instead the whole programme was given up to this irrelevancy:

“IN WHAT SORT OF COURT SHOULD WE HAVE TRIED OSAMA BIN LADEN?

FGS. Gimme strength!

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1. On the fate of Osama bin Laden, Normblog has this thoughtful post – Both “either” and “or”

“But the US also had the right, under the laws of war, to kill him as an enemy combatant. Equally, the killing in war of key Nazi leaders or functionaries was a lawful and a justified option. Either-or.”

2.  Al Qaeda’s interim leader is Saif al-Adel

3. ‘A Just war’: In preparation for the Q & A panel with Jarrod McKenna, I read through Tony Blair’s 1999 speech to the Chicago Economic Club that Michael Sheldrick posted. You can access this speech here http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/international/jan-june99/blair_doctrine4-23.html

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On a basic level, globalisation is international interdependence. Instability in one country will affect others. In respect to intervention in conflicts, Blair posits that the point at which intervention is acceptable is when there are “threats to international peace and security.” It is by no means an ideal answer, but that is the world we live in.

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Osama bin Laden shooting. Obama takes the plaudits. Did Panetta take the decision?

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5th May 2011

These pictures are hoped to “define” President Obama in the run-up to the next US election, November 2012.

Today President Obama laid a wreath at Ground Zero, four days after Osama bin Laden was killed. What took hm so long? I don't mean 'so long' to kill bin Laden. What took him so long to lay a wreath or even TO VISIT Ground Zero!?

FIRST visit of President Barack Obama to Ground Zero. FIRST visit as President. I assume that he visited there prior to his inauguration almost two and a half years ago. Did he? In the eight years prior? Here he poses with officers of the First Precinct police station in lower Manhattan during a visit to the World Trade Center site in New York, May 5, 2011. (Picture from Voice of America)

How come the American President never managed to get around to visiting Ground Zero before today?

Leon Panetta, soon-to-be Secretary of Defense. In his present position, Head of the CIA, it is said HE made the decisions on the attack on bin Laden's compound, with President Obama no more than a spectator.

Who is Leon Panetta?

Outside of the USA few of us will have heard of him. But this may well be the man who should be taking the public and press plaudits. Aged 72  he has extensive background across politics, the secret services and the military. He was Chief of Staff to Bill Clinton between  July 17, 1994 and January 20, 1997. A former soldier he is a lawyer, professor and was a Republican before becoming a Democrat at the age of 33.

You might recall that Leon Panetta said a few days ago that photographic evidence of Osama bin Laden’s body would “soon” be released.  Well, almost immediately, President Obama said it wouldn’t.

According to the article linked below, Panetta may well have “decided” that bin Laden should be killed. (Cynics might suggest that could be useful as an ‘Obama get-out‘ if it had all gone wrong.)

A few weeks ago it was announced that Mr Panetta would replace Robert Gates as the US Secretary of Defense (Wikipedia). Right now he is Director of the CIA. This CIA background is something he shares with the present Secretary of Defense, Gates.

From The New American

Excerpt: ‘President Obama has nominated a new national security team that is has veteran establishment credentials and appear to create an even tighter nexus between intelligence agencies and the military. Obama announced the following appointments April 28: Secretary of Defense: Current CIA Director Leon Panetta (left) will replace Robert Gates, a rare cabinet holdover from the Bush administration. Panetta is a longtime Washington insider, having served as a Chief of Staff and OMB Director under President Bill Clinton and a congressman from California. Panetta will not be the first CIA officer to take over the Department of Defense, as Gates’ official biography notes that “Secretary Gates joined the Central Intelligence Agency in 1966 and spent nearly 27 years as an intelligence professional” including serving as CIA director 1991-93.’

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The post below is said to have come from an “insider”.

Cross-post – White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden

Note:This update comes some 24 hours after our longtime Washington D.C. Insider first outlined shocking details of an Obama administration having been “overruled” by senior military and intelligence officials leading up to the successful attack against terrorist Osama Bin Laden.  What follows is further clarification of Insider’s insights surrounding that event.

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Q: You stated that President Obama was “overruled” by military/intelligence officials regarding the decision to send in military specialists into the Osama Bin Laden compound.  Was that accurate?

A: I was told – in these exact terms, “we overruled him.” (Obama)  I have since followed up and received further details on exactly what that meant, as well as the specifics of how Leon Panetta worked around the president’s “persistent hesitation to act.”  There appears NOT to have been an outright overruling of any specific position by President Obama, simply because there was no specific position from the president to do so.  President Obama was, in this case, as in all others, working as an absentee president.

I was correct in stating there had been a push to invade the compound for several weeks if not months, primarily led by Leon Panetta, Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, David Petraeus, and Jim Clapper.  The primary opposition to this plan originated from Valerie Jarrett, and it was her opposition that was enough to create uncertainty within President Obama.  Obama would meet with various components of the pro-invasion faction, almost always with Jarrett present, and then often fail to indicate his position.  This situation continued for some time, though the division between Jarrett/Obama and the rest intensified more recently, most notably from Hillary Clinton.  She was livid over the president’s failure to act, and her office began a campaign of anonymous leaks to the media indicating such.  As for Jarrett, her concern rested on two primary fronts.  One, that the military action could fail and harm the president’s already weakened standing with both the American public and the world.  Second, that the attack would be viewed as an act of aggression against Muslims, and further destabilize conditions in the Middle East.

Q: What changed the president’s position and enabled the attack against Osama Bin Laden to proceed?

A:  Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid having one.  Every time military and intelligence officials appeared to make progress in forming a position, Jarrett would intervene and the stalling would begin again.  Hillary started the ball really rolling as far as pressuring Obama began, but it was Panetta and Petraeus who ultimately pushed Obama to finally act – sort of.  Panetta was receiving significant reports from both his direct CIA sources, as well as Petraeus-originating Intel.  Petraeus was threatening to act on his own via a bombing attack.  Panetta reported back to the president that a bombing of the compound would result in successful killing of Osama Bin Laden, and little risk to American lives.  Initially, as he had done before, the president indicated a willingness to act.  But once again, Jarrett intervened, convincing the president that innocent Pakistani lives could be lost in such a bombing attack, and Obama would be left attempting to explain Panetta’s failed policy.  Again Obama hesitated – this time openly delaying further meetings to discuss the issue with Panetta.  A brief meeting was held at this time with other officials, including Secretary Gates and members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but Gates, like Panetta, was unable to push the president to act.  It was at this time that Gates indicated to certain Pentagon officials that he may resign earlier than originally indicated – he was that frustrated.  Both Panetta and Clinton convinced him to stay on and see the operation through.

What happened from there is what was described by me as a “masterful manipulation” by Leon Panetta.

Read more here

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This whole article is packed full of information which, if true, puts Obama back where much of the USA, and many of the rest of us, thought he felt far more comfortable – in the old Democrat mould – undeciding, unwilling to confront.

This is particularly intriguing, concerning the alleged input of both Hillary Clinton and Robert Gates.

Article continues –

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I have been told by more than one source that Leon Panetta was directing the operation with both his own CIA operatives, as well as direct contacts with military – both entities were reporting to Panetta only at this point, and not the President of the United States.  There was not going to be another delay as had happened 24 hour earlier.  The operation was at this time effectively unknown to President Barack Obama or Valerie Jarrett and it remained that way until AFTER it had already been initiated.  President Obama was literally pulled from a golf outing and escorted back to the White House to be informed of the mission.  Upon his arrival there was a briefing held which included Bill Daley, John Brennan, and a high ranking member of the military.  When Obama emerged from the briefing, he was described as looking “very confused and uncertain.”  The president was then placed in the situation room where several of the players in this event had already been watching the operation unfold.  Another interesting tidbit regarding this is that the Vice President was already “up to speed” on the operation.  A source indicated they believe Hillary Clinton had personally made certain the Vice President was made aware of that day’s events before the president was.  The now famous photo released shows the particulars of that of that room and its occupants.  What that photo does not communicate directly is that the military personnel present in that room during the operation unfolding, deferred to either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates.  The president’s role was minimal, including their acknowledging of his presence in the room.  [Read more]

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WARNING! Graphic, bloody photos from Abbottabad compound, Pakistan

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4th May 2011

WARNING

This post contains graphic and violent images including dead bodies

These pictures have been published at The Guardian’s website – top one here

I have not yet seen the names of those killed at Osama bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, so these men are unnamed as described in the Reuters captions.

Unfortunately, the publication of these pictures blunts President Obama’s ambition not to allow the world to see the pictures of Osama bin Laden’s body. These photos themselves will be enough to rile those seeking reasons to be riled.

I wonder how long it will be before we see images of the Al Qaeda leader’s corpse.

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Described as a ‘News Exclusive’ at The Guardian

Osama bin Laden compound in Abbottabad – in pictures

Pictures allegedly showing the results of US special forces’ assault on Osama bin Laden’s hideout in Abbottabad. Reuters, who released all but the first picture shown here, have said: ‘The photos [were] taken by a Pakistani security official who entered the compound after the early morning raid on Monday. The official, who wished to remain anonymous, sold the pictures. Reuters is confident in their authenticity’.

WARNING: This gallery contains graphic and violent images including dead bodies

The above picture, source here, is believed to show the body of Hamza, 20 year-old son of Osama bin Laden

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Above picture, source here

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Above picture, source here

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The greatest and most successful leader the Labour Party has ever had with the courage to fight the Islamist terrorists who really would like to kill us all, and you never hear a good word about him. The herd of independent minds, commentators, activists etc who have never had to make a difficult decision in their lives drown out all debate with their inane chants of war crimes and blood on his hands. Defend him at every chance. I just wish more people would do it. (Glasgow, UK)

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No bin Laden body photos. Jay Carney gets and then gives it straight

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4th May 2011

No photos of Osama bin Laden’s body

Jay Carney gets and gives it straight (from Obama’s mouth)

Before 7:30pm tonight Sky News broadcast the statement by White House spokesman, Jay Carney –

Too “graphic nature of photos – not in our national security interests … to rally opinion against the United States … incitement to additional violence or as a propaganda tool. We don’t trot out this stuff as trophies … create a national security risk … that’s not who we are.”

To be perfectly frank I doubt if the British Prime Minister’s Press Officer would have got away with “I have no answer to that” so frequently. But the press in the USA are very polite (compared to ours.) They accepted that he knew so little or was willing to reveal so little regarding the operation which took out Osama bin Laden.

It’s fairly clear that President Obama has always been unwilling to let the pictures of bin Laden’s body be viewed by we, the (mere) people.

BREATHING NEW LIFE INTO OSAMA BIN LADEN’S CORPSE

Let’s have no misunderstanding here – I can see the arguments against showing these pictures.  BUT, if ever a leader of the free world breathed new life into the vanquished and defeated leader of the UNFREE, this was it.

Phew! ‘Thanks Obama’, says Osama.

So there we go, folks. We’ll have to take the US President’s word for it. Unless, perhaps, someone in contact with the CIA decides otherwise.

Watch this space.

I expect that DNA evidence will be released soon. Then, later, if pushed, the pictures of Osama bin Laden’s shrouded body before burial at sea.

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Addendum 

This, at the New York Times is probably the most persuasive reason to support this decision,which I have no doubt must have been a tough one:

“Imagine how the American people would react if Al Qaeda killed one of our troops or military leaders, and put photos of the body on the Internet,” said Representative Mike Rogers, Republican of Michigan and chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. “Osama bin Laden is not a trophy. He is dead, and let’s now focus on continuing the fight until Al Qaeda has been eliminated.”

Of course there can be little doubt, no doubt at all in fact that Al Qaeda would upload to the internet, given the opportunity. They have done so before, often.

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EARLIER POSTS HERE ON OBL

• Tony Blair: warning after Osama bin Laden death (video)
• Osama Bin Laden. No body. No pictures. Shrine here …
• Poll: ‘Should we see photos/videos of Osama bin Laden’s body?’ Vote here.
• Geronimo/Bin Laden’s death. Lots of bloody pictures here…
• Picture of a dead Osama Bin Laden? I don’t think so. Proof.
• Tony Blair’s “heartfelt gratitude” to President Obama. But of course!
• Osama bin Laden: Hamas condemns “assassination of Arab Warrior”
• Osama Bin Laden killed? Buried at sea? Pictures? Evidence, please…

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New York Time: President Obama says he will not release pictures of Osama bin Laden’s body.

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The greatest and most successful leader the Labour Party has ever had with the courage to fight the Islamist terrorists who really would like to kill us all, and you never hear a good word about him. The herd of independent minds, commentators, activists etc who have never had to make a difficult decision in their lives drown out all debate with their inane chants of war crimes and blood on his hands. Defend him at every chance. I just wish more people would do it. (Glasgow, UK)

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Tony Blair: warning after Osama bin Laden death (video)

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4th May 2011

Tony Blair warns Osama bin Laden’s death will not abate terrorism

This was an ITN interview

Blair warns bin Laden death will not end terrorism

Former British prime minister Tony Blair has warned that the killing of al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden will not mark an end to the threat from fundamentalists. “I think it is important that we emphasise that this battle is not over – the narrative that bin Laden represented which is that Islam is in fundamental battle with the west, that it is at war with us, that narrative still exists I’m afraid,” he said.

He also expressed his deep gratitude to the US President: “We should send our deep thanks to President Obama, to the American people who carried out this operation and underlying our thanks to them to the servicemen and women that serve our countries everywhere.”

Militant Islamist forums vowed on Monday to avenge the killing of bin Laden. Bin Laden’s killing, in a compound outside the Pakistani city of Islamabad, dealt a symbolic blow to the global militant network, although Islamist forum posters said the strike wound not change their commitment to fighting Western powers.

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The Twisting “Narrative” of  Tweeters

I noticed some twit tweeting yesterday that Blair had said that “Islam is in fundamental battle with the west.” In fact he said the opposite:

“… the narrative that bin Laden represented which is that Islam is in fundamental battle with the west, that it is at war with us, that narrative still exists I’m afraid.”

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EARLIER POSTS ON OSAMA BIN LADEN’S DEATH

• Osama Bin Laden. No body. No pictures. Shrine here …
• Poll: ‘Should we see photos/videos of Osama bin Laden’s body?’ Vote here.
• Geronimo/Bin Laden’s death. Lots of bloody pictures here…
• Picture of a dead Osama Bin Laden? I don’t think so. Proof.
• Tony Blair’s “heartfelt gratitude” to President Obama. But of course!
• Osama bin Laden: Hamas condemns “assassination of Arab Warrior”
• Osama Bin Laden killed? Buried at sea? Pictures? Evidence, please…

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In case you haven’t seen it –

President Obama’s speech on bin Laden in full

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ADDENDUM

With White House decisiveness President Obama and his administration can’t decide whether to release a picture of Osama bin Laden’s body.

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• From White House – Pictures of operation, ref Osama bin Laden “not released yet”
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The greatest and most successful leader the Labour Party has ever had with the courage to fight the Islamist terrorists who really would like to kill us all, and you never hear a good word about him. The herd of independent minds, commentators, activists etc who have never had to make a difficult decision in their lives drown out all debate with their inane chants of war crimes and blood on his hands. Defend him at every chance. I just wish more people would do it. (Glasgow, UK)

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Osama Bin Laden. No body. No pictures. Shrine here …

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3rd May 2011

Osama! We know you’re out there

A vendor walks past a sand sculpture of Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden created by Indian sand artist Sudarshan Patnaik on a beach in  May 2, 2011. Osama bin Laden was killed in a U.S. assault on his Pakistani compound on May 2, 2011, then quickly buried at sea, in a dramatic end to the long manhunt for the al Qaeda leader who had become the most powerful symbol of global terrorism. REUTERS/Stringer [ Source ]

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I expect that’ll keep everyone happy.

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EARLIER POSTS ON OBL

• Poll: ‘Should we see photos/videos of Osama bin Laden’s body?’ Vote here.
• Geronimo/Bin Laden’s death. Lots of bloody pictures here…
• Picture of a dead Osama Bin Laden? I don’t think so. Proof.
• Tony Blair’s “heartfelt gratitude” to President Obama. But of course!
• Osama bin Laden: Hamas condemns “assassination of Arab Warrior”
• Osama Bin Laden killed? Buried at sea? Pictures? Evidence, please…

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The greatest and most successful leader the Labour Party has ever had with the courage to fight the Islamist terrorists who really would like to kill us all, and you never hear a good word about him. The herd of independent minds, commentators, activists etc who have never had to make a difficult decision in their lives drown out all debate with their inane chants of war crimes and blood on his hands. Defend him at every chance. I just wish more people would do it. (Glasgow, UK)

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Blair was the greatest Labour Prime Minister. It is a disgrace that the party has turned away from his legacy. Shame on Ed Miliband and his so-called ‘new generation’.

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Poll: ‘Should we see photos/videos of Osama bin Laden’s body?’ Vote here.

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3rd May 2011

DO YOU WANT TO SEE EVIDENCE THAT BIN LADEN HAS BEEN KILLED?

Osama bin Laden was killed on Sunday. Within a few hours he was buried at sea.

It seems the US government wishes to see if there is sufficient call for this before they decide what evidence to release. Let them know what you think.

This 17 Question Poll is multiple choice. Please select as many or as few as you think should apply.

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The greatest and most successful leader the Labour Party has ever had with the courage to fight the Islamist terrorists who really would like to kill us all, and you never hear a good word about him. The herd of independent minds, commentators, activists etc who have never had to make a difficult decision in their lives drown out all debate with their inane chants of war crimes and blood on his hands. Defend him at every chance. I just wish more people would do it. (Glasgow, UK)

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Geronimo/Bin Laden’s death. Lots of bloody pictures here…

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2nd May 2011

PITY WE DON’T KNOW IF ANY OF IT IS OSAMA BIN LADEN’S BLOOD

From the compound where the terrorist leader was killed ABC News has this slideshow of photos from inside the “kill zone”.

Unfortunately, there is no evidence from these pictures that it was Osama bin Laden’s blood.

John Brennan, chief counter-terrorism adviser said tonight that the US authorities are still deciding on whether or not to release some visual evidence.

What’s to decide?

Oh, I think I’ve got it.  It might upset (some) Muslims.

But we are now told that a “new bin Laden tape, taken BEFORE his death” will be released soon. [SkyNews Live]

Picture from inside the compound (CTVNews)

It seems “Geronimo” was killed at 3:55pmEST, which is 8:55pmBST. Just over 25 hours ago.

President Obama was watching all of this operation in real time from a distance. He probably saw OBL’s wife standing in front of her husband to try to protect him. She died in that attempt.

As the US authorities and our papers put it – “Osama bin Laden hid behind a woman, who was killed.”

So President Obama saw exactly who died. So should the rest of us. Not just a shroud- covered body sliding into the sea. We need to see the uncovered body.

Then I’ll go off and write about something else. I promise.

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